Offseting the baseline grid, and irregular columnsets
Dear list, My adventures into the world of grids continue. In the linked file (slide_grid_overlay.pdf) there are two things I cannot yet achieve: 1. I want the baseline grid to evenly (vertically) divide the text area, but my code produces a smaller height of the first line and an additional space at the bottom. 2. The number of columns is 21.5, that is the first column is 0.5 units wide and the rest are 1 unit wide. How would I achieve this? Here is what I got right now: \definemeasure[xheight][0.1in] \definemeasure[base][3\measured{xheight}] \definepapersize[slide][width=80\measured{xheight},height=60\measured{xheight}] \setuppapersize[slide] \setupinterlinespace[line=\measure{base},top=1] \setuplayout[ leftedge=\zeropoint, rightedge=\measure{zero}, leftedgedistance=\zeropoint, rightedgedistance=\zeropoint, leftmargin=\zeropoint, rightmargin=\zeropoint, leftmargindistance=\zeropoint, rightmargindistance=\zeropoint, width=middle, cutspace=2\measured{base}, backspace=2\measured{base}, topspace=2\measured{base}, header=\zeropoint, height=middle, bottomspace=2\measured{base}, footer=\zeropoint, grid=yes, columndistance=1pt, columns=21.5] \showframe \showgrid \starttext \input tufte \stoptext Link to file: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1KpYbDlukvSCirKkFvJICOX3wABl_83bW?usp... Sincerely, Stefan
On Wed, 25 May 2022, Stefan Nedeljkovic via ntg-context wrote:
Dear list,
My adventures into the world of grids continue. In the linked file (slide_grid_overlay.pdf) there are two things I cannot yet achieve:
1. I want the baseline grid to evenly (vertically) divide the text area, but my code produces a smaller height of the first line and an additional space at the bottom.
You did not set footerdistance to zero. So, that takes up some space.
2. The number of columns is 21.5, that is the first column is 0.5 units wide and the rest are 1 unit wide.
I believe that columns has to be an integer. Why do you want fractional columns? Columns are useful because you can say: \setlayer[name][line=2,column=3]{....} for absolute positioning of layers. So, you can always use: \setlayer[name][line=2,column=3,x=0.5\measured{base}]{....} to move everything to the right by 0.5 units. Another option is not to use columns at all, and simply do: \setlayer[name][line=2,x=3.5\measured{base}] which will place the layer at 3.5 units from the left edge of the text area.
Here is what I got right now:
Currently your textwidth is not a multiple of base units. I have tweaked the code below so that it is. \definemeasure[xheight][0.1in] \definemeasure[base][3\measured{xheight}] % Since all distances are in terms of base units, specify the paper size in those % terms as well. \definepapersize[slide][width=26\measured{base},height=20\measured{base}] \setuppapersize[slide] \setupinterlinespace[line=\measure{base}] \setuplayout [ topspace=2\measured{base}, header=\zeropoint, headerdistance=\zeropoint, height=middle, % Space for 20-4=16 lines footerdistance=\zeropoint, footer=\zeropoint, bottomspace=2\measured{base}, % cutspace=2\measured{base}, leftmargin=\zeropoint, leftmargindistance=\zeropoint, width=middle, % space for 26-4=22 col rightmargindistance=\zeropoint, rightmargin=\zeropoint, backspace=2\measured{base}, % columns=22, columndistance=1pt, % grid=yes, ] \showframe \showgrid \starttext \input tufte \stoptext Aditya
Thank you very much Aditya for looking into this. But I still have the same
baseline grid offset problem. Interestingly, when I remove the columns, the
text shifts downwards by two lines.
My code:
\definemeasure[xheight][0.1in]
\definemeasure[base][3\measured{xheight}]
% Since all distances are in terms of base units, specify the paper size in
those
% terms as well.
\definepapersize[slide][width=26\measured{base},height=20\measured{base}]
\setuppapersize[slide]
\setupinterlinespace[line=\measure{base}]
\setuplayout
[
topspace=2\measured{base},
header=\zeropoint,
headerdistance=\zeropoint,
height=middle, % Space for 20-4=16 lines
footerdistance=\zeropoint,
footer=\zeropoint,
bottomspace=2\measured{base},
%
cutspace=2\measured{base},
leftmargin=\zeropoint,
leftmargindistance=\zeropoint,
width=middle, % space for 26-4=22 col
rightmargindistance=\zeropoint,
rightmargin=\zeropoint,
backspace=2\measured{base}
grid=yes,
]
\showframe
\showgrid
\starttext
\input tufte
\stoptext
I'm attaching the pdf output.
On Fri, May 27, 2022 at 5:00 PM Aditya Mahajan
On Wed, 25 May 2022, Stefan Nedeljkovic via ntg-context wrote:
Dear list,
My adventures into the world of grids continue. In the linked file (slide_grid_overlay.pdf) there are two things I cannot yet achieve:
1. I want the baseline grid to evenly (vertically) divide the text area, but my code produces a smaller height of the first line and an additional space at the bottom.
You did not set footerdistance to zero. So, that takes up some space.
2. The number of columns is 21.5, that is the first column is 0.5
units
wide and the rest are 1 unit wide.
I believe that columns has to be an integer. Why do you want fractional columns? Columns are useful because you can say:
\setlayer[name][line=2,column=3]{....}
for absolute positioning of layers. So, you can always use:
\setlayer[name][line=2,column=3,x=0.5\measured{base}]{....}
to move everything to the right by 0.5 units.
Another option is not to use columns at all, and simply do:
\setlayer[name][line=2,x=3.5\measured{base}]
which will place the layer at 3.5 units from the left edge of the text area.
Here is what I got right now:
Currently your textwidth is not a multiple of base units. I have tweaked the code below so that it is.
\definemeasure[xheight][0.1in] \definemeasure[base][3\measured{xheight}]
% Since all distances are in terms of base units, specify the paper size in those % terms as well. \definepapersize[slide][width=26\measured{base},height=20\measured{base}] \setuppapersize[slide]
\setupinterlinespace[line=\measure{base}]
\setuplayout [ topspace=2\measured{base}, header=\zeropoint, headerdistance=\zeropoint, height=middle, % Space for 20-4=16 lines footerdistance=\zeropoint, footer=\zeropoint, bottomspace=2\measured{base}, % cutspace=2\measured{base}, leftmargin=\zeropoint, leftmargindistance=\zeropoint, width=middle, % space for 26-4=22 col rightmargindistance=\zeropoint, rightmargin=\zeropoint, backspace=2\measured{base}, % columns=22, columndistance=1pt, % grid=yes, ]
\showframe \showgrid
\starttext \input tufte \stoptext
Aditya
You left out the comma after the backspace setting. WIth that in, all is well. On 2022-05-27 12:03, Stefan Nedeljkovic via ntg-context wrote:
Thank you very much Aditya for looking into this. But I still have the same baseline grid offset problem. Interestingly, when I remove the columns, the text shifts downwards by two lines. My code:
\definemeasure[xheight][0.1in]
\definemeasure[base][3\measured{xheight}]
% Since all distances are in terms of base units, specify the paper size in those
% terms as well.
\definepapersize[slide][width=26\measured{base},height=20\measured{base}]
\setuppapersize[slide]
\setupinterlinespace[line=\measure{base}]
\setuplayout
[
topspace=2\measured{base},
header=\zeropoint,
headerdistance=\zeropoint,
height=middle, % Space for 20-4=16 lines
footerdistance=\zeropoint,
footer=\zeropoint,
bottomspace=2\measured{base},
%
cutspace=2\measured{base},
leftmargin=\zeropoint,
leftmargindistance=\zeropoint,
width=middle, % space for 26-4=22 col
rightmargindistance=\zeropoint,
rightmargin=\zeropoint,
backspace=2\measured{base}
grid=yes,
]
\showframe
\showgrid
\starttext
\input tufte
\stoptext
I'm attaching the pdf output.
On Fri, May 27, 2022 at 5:00 PM Aditya Mahajan
wrote: On Wed, 25 May 2022, Stefan Nedeljkovic via ntg-context wrote:
> Dear list, > > My adventures into the world of grids continue. In the linked file > (slide_grid_overlay.pdf) there are two things I cannot yet achieve: > > 1. I want the baseline grid to evenly (vertically) divide the text > area, but my code produces a smaller height of the first line and an > additional space at the bottom.
You did not set footerdistance to zero. So, that takes up some space.
> 2. The number of columns is 21.5, that is the first column is 0.5 units > wide and the rest are 1 unit wide.
I believe that columns has to be an integer. Why do you want fractional columns? Columns are useful because you can say:
\setlayer[name][line=2,column=3]{....}
for absolute positioning of layers. So, you can always use:
\setlayer[name][line=2,column=3,x=0.5\measured{base}]{....}
to move everything to the right by 0.5 units.
Another option is not to use columns at all, and simply do:
\setlayer[name][line=2,x=3.5\measured{base}]
which will place the layer at 3.5 units from the left edge of the text area.
> Here is what I got right now:
Currently your textwidth is not a multiple of base units. I have tweaked the code below so that it is.
\definemeasure[xheight][0.1in] \definemeasure[base][3\measured{xheight}]
% Since all distances are in terms of base units, specify the paper size in those % terms as well. \definepapersize[slide][width=26\measured{base},height=20\measured{base}] \setuppapersize[slide]
\setupinterlinespace[line=\measure{base}]
\setuplayout [ topspace=2\measured{base}, header=\zeropoint, headerdistance=\zeropoint, height=middle, % Space for 20-4=16 lines footerdistance=\zeropoint, footer=\zeropoint, bottomspace=2\measured{base}, % cutspace=2\measured{base}, leftmargin=\zeropoint, leftmargindistance=\zeropoint, width=middle, % space for 26-4=22 col rightmargindistance=\zeropoint, rightmargin=\zeropoint, backspace=2\measured{base}, % columns=22, columndistance=1pt, % grid=yes, ]
\showframe \showgrid
\starttext \input tufte \stoptext
Aditya
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Thanks Rik, that fixed the issue with at which line the text begins, but I still get the grid offset. On Fri, May 27, 2022 at 6:33 PM Rik Kabel via ntg-context < ntg-context@ntg.nl> wrote:
You left out the comma after the backspace setting. WIth that in, all is well. On 2022-05-27 12:03, Stefan Nedeljkovic via ntg-context wrote:
Thank you very much Aditya for looking into this. But I still have the same baseline grid offset problem. Interestingly, when I remove the columns, the text shifts downwards by two lines. My code:
\definemeasure[xheight][0.1in]
\definemeasure[base][3\measured{xheight}]
% Since all distances are in terms of base units, specify the paper size in those
% terms as well.
\definepapersize[slide][width=26\measured{base},height=20\measured{base}]
\setuppapersize[slide]
\setupinterlinespace[line=\measure{base}]
\setuplayout
[
topspace=2\measured{base},
header=\zeropoint,
headerdistance=\zeropoint,
height=middle, % Space for 20-4=16 lines
footerdistance=\zeropoint,
footer=\zeropoint,
bottomspace=2\measured{base},
%
cutspace=2\measured{base},
leftmargin=\zeropoint,
leftmargindistance=\zeropoint,
width=middle, % space for 26-4=22 col
rightmargindistance=\zeropoint,
rightmargin=\zeropoint,
backspace=2\measured{base}
grid=yes,
]
\showframe
\showgrid
\starttext
\input tufte
\stoptext
I'm attaching the pdf output.
On Fri, May 27, 2022 at 5:00 PM Aditya Mahajan
wrote: On Wed, 25 May 2022, Stefan Nedeljkovic via ntg-context wrote:
Dear list,
My adventures into the world of grids continue. In the linked file (slide_grid_overlay.pdf) there are two things I cannot yet achieve:
1. I want the baseline grid to evenly (vertically) divide the text area, but my code produces a smaller height of the first line and an additional space at the bottom.
You did not set footerdistance to zero. So, that takes up some space.
2. The number of columns is 21.5, that is the first column is 0.5
units
wide and the rest are 1 unit wide.
I believe that columns has to be an integer. Why do you want fractional columns? Columns are useful because you can say:
\setlayer[name][line=2,column=3]{....}
for absolute positioning of layers. So, you can always use:
\setlayer[name][line=2,column=3,x=0.5\measured{base}]{....}
to move everything to the right by 0.5 units.
Another option is not to use columns at all, and simply do:
\setlayer[name][line=2,x=3.5\measured{base}]
which will place the layer at 3.5 units from the left edge of the text area.
Here is what I got right now:
Currently your textwidth is not a multiple of base units. I have tweaked the code below so that it is.
\definemeasure[xheight][0.1in] \definemeasure[base][3\measured{xheight}]
% Since all distances are in terms of base units, specify the paper size in those % terms as well. \definepapersize[slide][width=26\measured{base},height=20\measured{base}] \setuppapersize[slide]
\setupinterlinespace[line=\measure{base}]
\setuplayout [ topspace=2\measured{base}, header=\zeropoint, headerdistance=\zeropoint, height=middle, % Space for 20-4=16 lines footerdistance=\zeropoint, footer=\zeropoint, bottomspace=2\measured{base}, % cutspace=2\measured{base}, leftmargin=\zeropoint, leftmargindistance=\zeropoint, width=middle, % space for 26-4=22 col rightmargindistance=\zeropoint, rightmargin=\zeropoint, backspace=2\measured{base}, % columns=22, columndistance=1pt, % grid=yes, ]
\showframe \showgrid
\starttext \input tufte \stoptext
Aditya
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So as I understand there are two grids: The baseline grid, and the main grid. The baseline grid is shifted upward by an amount called depth in order to accommodate descenders. I want to be able to control that parameter. That is the space between the last red line (no 16) and the bottom of the text frame (black line). On Fri, May 27, 2022 at 10:32 PM Aditya Mahajan via ntg-context < ntg-context@ntg.nl> wrote:
On Fri, 27 May 2022, Stefan Nedeljkovic via ntg-context wrote:
Thanks Rik, that fixed the issue with at which line the text begins, but I still get the grid offset.
What do you mean by grid offset?
Aditya
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participants (3)
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Aditya Mahajan
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Rik Kabel
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Stefan Nedeljkovic