Taco Hoekwater wrote:

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This (http://www.liu.edu/cwis/cwp/library/workshop/citapa.htm) and just about any other site I look at specifies publisher info as ": <publisher name>", whereas bibl-apa.tex specifies it as "<publisher name>, ".

Also, I've had quite a few incorrect bug reports about the styles, so I am no longer all that eager to change them at a single bug report. Two questions: do you have a definitive source somewhere? and are there any other problems you see in bibl-apa.tex?

The definite source would be the APA style book (around 20 Euros). However, for the @book question, one finds an example at http://www.apastyle.org/tipweek100101.html Which reads: Merriam-Webster's collegiate dictionary (10th ed.). (1993). Springfield, MA: Merriam-Webster. Tobias

On Tue, 27 May 2008 08:36:57 +0200, Taco Hoekwater wrote:

Matej Baric( wrote:

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Hello, This (http://www.liu.edu/cwis/cwp/library/workshop/citapa.htm) and just about any other site I look at specifies publisher info as ": <publisher name>", whereas bibl-apa.tex specifies it as "<publisher name>, ". Why is the file called bibl-apa.tex if it doesn't follow APA rules? Am I missing something

Originally (years ago already), I reverse-engineered apalike from latex. It is quite possible I made a error there (or even that apalike had it wrong) but if no-one reports a bug it is not noticed.

Also, I've had quite a few incorrect bug reports about the styles, so I am no longer all that eager to change them at a single bug report. Two questions: do you have a definitive source somewhere? and are there any other problems you see in bibl-apa.tex?

The 5th edition of the APA Publication Manual is unambiguous on this point. Section 4.14, page 230, states: (note, I have transcribed their table of examples into plain text for easier reading in email) ____________________________________________________________ 4.14 Publication Information: Nonperiodicals (table of examples) Location, ST: Publisher. (example) Hillsdale, NJ: Erlbaum Location, Province, Country: Publisher. (example) Toronto, Ontario, Canada: University of Toronto Press. Location, Country: Publisher. (example) Oxford, England: Basil Blackwell. Major City: Publisher. (example) Amsterdam: Elsevier. (end table of examples) - Give the city and, if the city is not well known for publishing (see section 4.03) or could be confused with another location, the state or province (and/or country) where the publisher is located as noted on the title page of the book. Use U.S. Postal Service abbreviations for states (see Table 4.1). Use a colon after the location. - If the publisher is a university and the name of the state or province is included in the name of the university, do not repeat the state or province in the publisher location. - Give the name of the publisher in as brief a form as is intelligible. Write out the names of associations, corporations, and university presses, but omit superfluous terms, such as Publishers, Co., or INC., which are not required to identify the publisher. Retain the words Books and Press. - If two or more publisher locations are given, give the location listed first in the book or, if specified, the location of the publisher's home office. - Finish the element with a period. ____________________________________________________________

Hi, For all of you out there that wnat to help set up the new bibl-apa.tex, I have uploaded an experimental version of the bib module to the garden. http://modules.contextgarden.net/bib It already has some improvements, but it is (probably) not done yet. Corrections are welcome, either in tex source patches or as output specifications for particular bbl entries. Best wishes, Taco Taco Hoekwater wrote:

David wrote:

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The 5th edition of the APA Publication Manual is unambiguous on this point. Section 4.14, page 230, states:

(note, I have transcribed their table of examples into plain text for easier reading in email)

Thanks a lot. I will wait a few days before releasing an updated version, in case someone find more issues, but there will be a new release about a week from now.

Best wishes, Taco