Mark IV and pre-processing input file processing.
Hello, I started playing around with ConTeXt/LuaTeX and have a question here wich is related to a pet project of mine: is it possible to tell Mark IV something like this
texmfstart texexec --lua --environments=myfile.tex someotherfile.zip where 'myfile.tex' should contain a lua routine which would unzip 'someotherfile.zip' to /tmp and call LuaConTeXt on a file actually contained in the archive (among others)?
While I'm sure this can be done in Lua, I wonder whether somebody can point me at how to access the names of files to be processed ('someotherfile.zip') from the running process ... Not sure whether I can make myself understood here ... please ask if I'm not making sense, Joh
2007/11/6, Johannes Graumann
Hello,
I started playing around with ConTeXt/LuaTeX and have a question here wich is related to a pet project of mine: is it possible to tell Mark IV something like this
texmfstart texexec --lua --environments=myfile.tex someotherfile.zip where 'myfile.tex' should contain a lua routine which would unzip 'someotherfile.zip' to /tmp and call LuaConTeXt on a file actually contained in the archive (among others)?
While I'm sure this can be done in Lua, I wonder whether somebody can point me at how to access the names of files to be processed ('someotherfile.zip') from the running process ...
Not sure whether I can make myself understood here ... please ask if I'm not making sense,
Joh
Take a look into Hans Mark manual. http://pragma-ade.nl/general/manuals/mk.pdf Wolfgang
Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
2007/11/6, Johannes Graumann
: Hello,
I started playing around with ConTeXt/LuaTeX and have a question here wich is related to a pet project of mine: is it possible to tell Mark IV something like this
texmfstart texexec --lua --environments=myfile.tex someotherfile.zip where 'myfile.tex' should contain a lua routine which would unzip 'someotherfile.zip' to /tmp and call LuaConTeXt on a file actually contained in the archive (among others)?
While I'm sure this can be done in Lua, I wonder whether somebody can point me at how to access the names of files to be processed ('someotherfile.zip') from the running process ...
Not sure whether I can make myself understood here ... please ask if I'm not making sense,
Joh
Take a look into Hans Mark manual.
Thanks for that! I found the zipping reference and got it to work. Returning now to the example above ("texmfstart texexec --lua --environments=myfile.tex someotherfile.zip"), what I would like to do is using lua in "myfile.tex" to extract the filename to be texed (someotherfile.zip) and rewrite it on the fly to a zip-archive content along the lines of \input zip::someotherfile.zip::somezipcontent.tex Is that possible? "texmfstart texexec --verbose" produces something like TeXExec | option 'filename' is set to 'someotherfile.tex', so how to access this during processing using lua? Thanks for any insights, Joh
Johannes Graumann wrote:
Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
2007/11/6, Johannes Graumann
: Hello,
I started playing around with ConTeXt/LuaTeX and have a question here wich is related to a pet project of mine: is it possible to tell Mark IV something like this
texmfstart texexec --lua --environments=myfile.tex someotherfile.zip where 'myfile.tex' should contain a lua routine which would unzip 'someotherfile.zip' to /tmp and call LuaConTeXt on a file actually contained in the archive (among others)?
While I'm sure this can be done in Lua, I wonder whether somebody can point me at how to access the names of files to be processed ('someotherfile.zip') from the running process ...
Not sure whether I can make myself understood here ... please ask if I'm not making sense,
Joh
Take a look into Hans Mark manual.
Thanks for that! I found the zipping reference and got it to work. Returning now to the example above ("texmfstart texexec --lua --environments=myfile.tex someotherfile.zip"), what I would like to do is using lua in "myfile.tex" to extract the filename to be texed (someotherfile.zip) and rewrite it on the fly to a zip-archive content along the lines of \input zip::someotherfile.zip::somezipcontent.tex
Is that possible? "texmfstart texexec --verbose" produces something like TeXExec | option 'filename' is set to 'someotherfile.tex', so how to access this during processing using lua?
texmfstart texexec --lua myfile.tex --arg="name=someotherfile.zip" mak emyfile.tex your main tex file (use --global if needed) and then use \env{name} hans ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl -----------------------------------------------------------------
Hans Hagen wrote:
Thanks for that! I found the zipping reference and got it to work. Returning now to the example above ("texmfstart texexec --lua --environments=myfile.tex someotherfile.zip"), what I would like to do is using lua in "myfile.tex" to extract the filename to be texed (someotherfile.zip) and rewrite it on the fly to a zip-archive content along the lines of \input zip::someotherfile.zip::somezipcontent.tex
Is that possible? "texmfstart texexec --verbose" produces something like TeXExec | option 'filename' is set to 'someotherfile.tex', so how to access this during processing using lua?
texmfstart texexec --lua myfile.tex --arg="name=someotherfile.zip"
mak emyfile.tex your main tex file (use --global if needed) and then use \env{name}
Thanks Hans! Not as elegant as I had hoped, but it does what I want when I use "\input zip::\env{name}::somezipcontent.tex" in myfile.tex ... Now is there any way to define the output-filename from within myfile.tex? This would be analogous to texexec's '--result' option, but from within the texfile to change the output-name with the help of the newly defined '\env{name}' - in the example to '\env{name}.pdf'. Thanks, Joh
Johannes Graumann wrote:
Hans Hagen wrote:
Thanks for that! I found the zipping reference and got it to work. Returning now to the example above ("texmfstart texexec --lua --environments=myfile.tex someotherfile.zip"), what I would like to do is using lua in "myfile.tex" to extract the filename to be texed (someotherfile.zip) and rewrite it on the fly to a zip-archive content along the lines of \input zip::someotherfile.zip::somezipcontent.tex
Is that possible? "texmfstart texexec --verbose" produces something like TeXExec | option 'filename' is set to 'someotherfile.tex', so how to access this during processing using lua? texmfstart texexec --lua myfile.tex --arg="name=someotherfile.zip"
mak emyfile.tex your main tex file (use --global if needed) and then use \env{name}
Thanks Hans! Not as elegant as I had hoped, but it does what I want when I use "\input zip::\env{name}::somezipcontent.tex" in myfile.tex ... Now is there any way to define the output-filename from within myfile.tex? This would be analogous to texexec's '--result' option, but from within the texfile to change the output-name with the help of the newly defined '\env{name}' - in the example to '\env{name}.pdf'.
no ... maybe some day Hans ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl -----------------------------------------------------------------
On Tue, 06 Nov 2007 20:48:26 +0100
Hans Hagen
Johannes Graumann wrote:
Hans Hagen wrote:
Thanks for that! I found the zipping reference and got it to work. Returning now to the example above ("texmfstart texexec --lua --environments=myfile.tex someotherfile.zip"), what I would like to do is using lua in "myfile.tex" to extract the filename to be texed (someotherfile.zip) and rewrite it on the fly to a zip-archive content along the lines of \input zip::someotherfile.zip::somezipcontent.tex
Is that possible? "texmfstart texexec --verbose" produces something like TeXExec | option 'filename' is set to 'someotherfile.tex', so how to access this during processing using lua? texmfstart texexec --lua myfile.tex --arg="name=someotherfile.zip"
mak emyfile.tex your main tex file (use --global if needed) and then use \env{name}
Thanks Hans! Not as elegant as I had hoped, but it does what I want when I use "\input zip::\env{name}::somezipcontent.tex" in myfile.tex ... Now is there any way to define the output-filename from within myfile.tex? This would be analogous to texexec's '--result' option, but from within the texfile to change the output-name with the help of the newly defined '\env{name}' - in the example to '\env{name}.pdf'.
no ... maybe some day
this give us so many options. I think about something like, We can create a zip archive of a current project with a file ending like cdx (ConTeXt Document Excange) and can now process this file by calling texexec only on this file. Nothing special at this moment for now but it is easier send only one files to someone else instead of a many files or many files in a zip file he has to unzip first and call texexec later on the main file. What I want is to create a document in one directory with the normal structure with projects, components, a figure directory etc. and zip this directory to only one file. I can now process file simply by calling texexec on the directory and it is unzipped on the fly (unnoticed by the user) and I have no longer many different files in my directory and it is easier to send a docuemnt to someone else because he get from me only the zipped project file. I know this is nearly the same as a openoffice document (also a zip archive with many files) but why not. Wolfgang
Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
this give us so many options.
I think about something like,
We can create a zip archive of a current project with a file ending like cdx (ConTeXt Document Excange) and can now process this file by calling texexec only on this file.
Nothing special at this moment for now but it is easier send only one files to someone else instead of a many files or many files in a zip file he has to unzip first and call texexec later on the main file.
What I want is to create a document in one directory with the normal structure with projects, components, a figure directory etc. and zip this directory to only one file. I can now process file simply by calling texexec on the directory and it is unzipped on the fly (unnoticed by the user) and I have no longer many different files in my directory and it is easier to send a docuemnt to someone else because he get from me only the zipped project file.
I know this is nearly the same as a openoffice document (also a zip archive with many files) but why not.
sounds interesting it's no big problem to implement this, but it makes most sense to stick to luatex for this because it has zip support built in, so there is no need to unzip then. things like the output, style etc can be controller using a ctx file but currently that file is handled outside the tex run for luatex, in the near future we will no longer use texexec but a lua based variant (this removes the dependency on ruby) (i have a prototype plugin for mtxrun for that; all support script will use mtxrun as stub) let's come back to it later this year when we have a more stable luatex Hans ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl -----------------------------------------------------------------
I know this is nearly the same as a openoffice document (also a zip archive with many files) but why not. This is in fact what I'm trying to setup: a Mark IV mapping environment to typeset odt's (mainly the "content.xml" part) by just calling ConTeXt on
Wolfgang Schuster wrote: the odt. I'm in an academic environment wher Word dominates and the change tracking features of a WYSIWYG-moloch like Word or OOWriter are heavily used. This direct mapping strategy seems to me the most straight forward way of living with that tradition/necessity and still achieve nice typesetting. I read about The odt-markdown-context route on a recent thread, but my solution (if it ever comes about) seems theoretically more robust - aside from catering to my manic tinkerism ... Joh
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