Quoting Hans Hagen :

Aditya Mahajan wrote:

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Hi,

I get significantly different white spaces (and hence page breaks) while using mkiv and mkii. Is this expected, or should I try to create minimal example exhibiting such "problems"?

indeed

Here is a minimal example. The spaces around formulas are more. \starttext \dorecurse{10} { \input tufte \startformula E = mc^2 \stopformula \par } \stoptext Aditya

Hi Aditya, Aditya Mahajan schrieb:

Quoting Hans Hagen :

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Aditya Mahajan wrote:

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Hi,

I get significantly different white spaces (and hence page breaks) while using mkiv and mkii. Is this expected, or should I try to create minimal example exhibiting such "problems"? indeed

Here is a minimal example. The spaces around formulas are more.

in the meantime I have also updated my \texmf subtree (LM should be up to date). Using your example, I now get a 12pt text font with pdftex and 10pt text font with luatex (but 12pt in math mode). So maybe you have the same problem? If I remember it right, luatex normally used the OTF variant of LM in my prior test. Now it's also T1, but with an additional font (this one is used for the 10pt text) in comparison to pdftex: lmrroman12-regular (Embedded Subset) Type: Type1 (CID) Encoding: Identity-H Strange. Maybe only some messy font setup on my system. Peter

\starttext

\dorecurse{10} { \input tufte \startformula E = mc^2 \stopformula \par }

\stoptext

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Peter Rolf wrote:

Peter Rolf schrieb:

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Hi Aditya,

Aditya Mahajan schrieb:

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Quoting Hans Hagen :

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Aditya Mahajan wrote:

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Hi,

I get significantly different white spaces (and hence page breaks) while using mkiv and mkii. Is this expected, or should I try to create minimal example exhibiting such "problems"? indeed Here is a minimal example. The spaces around formulas are more.

in the meantime I have also updated my \texmf subtree (LM should be up to date). Using your example, I now get a

12pt text font with pdftex and 10pt text font with luatex (but 12pt in math mode).

So maybe you have the same problem?

If I remember it right, luatex normally used the OTF variant of LM in my prior test. Now it's also T1, but with an additional font (this one is used for the 10pt text) in comparison to pdftex:

lmrroman12-regular (Embedded Subset) Type: Type1 (CID) Encoding: Identity-H

stupid me. this is otf :)

http://partners.adobe.com/public/developer/opentype/index_font_formats.html

the lm 12 file says ... ["design_size"]=0, ["familyname"]="LMRoman12", ["fontname"]="LMRoman12-Regular", ["fullname"]="LMRoman12-Regular", so it looks like we have a problem there; in that case mkiv assumes 10pt Hans ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl -----------------------------------------------------------------

Arthur Reutenauer wrote:

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the lm 12 file says ...

["design_size"]=0,

Huh huh, same here. Actually all my cached fonts have design_size = 0 (I have most of the LM fonts, a couple of Gyre families and Adobe Caslon).

that's bad, normally we default to 10pt, which is ok, but for lm ... i'll cook up a trick Hans ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl -----------------------------------------------------------------

Peter Rolf wrote:

Hans Hagen schrieb:

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Peter Rolf schrieb:

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Hi Aditya,

Aditya Mahajan schrieb:

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Quoting Hans Hagen :

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Aditya Mahajan wrote: > Hi, > > I get significantly different white spaces (and hence page breaks) > while using mkiv and mkii. Is this expected, or should I try to create > minimal example exhibiting such "problems"? indeed Here is a minimal example. The spaces around formulas are more.

in the meantime I have also updated my \texmf subtree (LM should be up to date). Using your example, I now get a

12pt text font with pdftex and 10pt text font with luatex (but 12pt in math mode).

So maybe you have the same problem?

If I remember it right, luatex normally used the OTF variant of LM in my prior test. Now it's also T1, but with an additional font (this one is used for the 10pt text) in comparison to pdftex:

lmrroman12-regular (Embedded Subset) Type: Type1 (CID) Encoding: Identity-H

stupid me. this is otf :)

http://partners.adobe.com/public/developer/opentype/index_font_formats.html

Peter Rolf wrote: the lm 12 file says ...

["design_size"]=0, ["familyname"]="LMRoman12", ["fontname"]="LMRoman12-Regular", ["fullname"]="LMRoman12-Regular",

so it looks like we have a problem there; in that case mkiv assumes 10pt

i see. which format is used for "design_size"? i tried "12", but i still get 10pt. "12pt" gives a compilation warning (using luac); i should use texluac, right? :D

120 but there's also a problem in the loader (in font-otf) local designsize = data.designsize or data.design_size or 100 if designsize == 0 then designsize = 100 end tfm.designsize = (designsize/10)*65536 i'll upload a new zip later i made a mechanism that can 'repair fonts' so lm is fixed (well, the error is intercepted Hans ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl -----------------------------------------------------------------

Peter Rolf wrote:

Hans Hagen schrieb:

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Peter Rolf schrieb:

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Hi Aditya,

Aditya Mahajan schrieb:

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Quoting Hans Hagen :

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Aditya Mahajan wrote: > Hi, > > I get significantly different white spaces (and hence page breaks) > while using mkiv and mkii. Is this expected, or should I try to create > minimal example exhibiting such "problems"? indeed Here is a minimal example. The spaces around formulas are more.

in the meantime I have also updated my \texmf subtree (LM should be up to date). Using your example, I now get a

12pt text font with pdftex and 10pt text font with luatex (but 12pt in math mode).

So maybe you have the same problem?

If I remember it right, luatex normally used the OTF variant of LM in my prior test. Now it's also T1, but with an additional font (this one is used for the 10pt text) in comparison to pdftex:

lmrroman12-regular (Embedded Subset) Type: Type1 (CID) Encoding: Identity-H

stupid me. this is otf :)

http://partners.adobe.com/public/developer/opentype/index_font_formats.html

Peter Rolf wrote: the lm 12 file says ...

["design_size"]=0, ["familyname"]="LMRoman12", ["fontname"]="LMRoman12-Regular", ["fullname"]="LMRoman12-Regular",

so it looks like we have a problem there; in that case mkiv assumes 10pt

i see. which format is used for "design_size"? i tried "12", but i still get 10pt. "12pt" gives a compilation warning (using luac); i should use texluac, right? :D

also: why are the t1 variants used in math mode (E =mc2)? italic (all but equal sign) and roman (=).

dunno, math modes uses tfm files; also, there have been some fixes to tfm/vf loading in mkiv as well as luatex itself .. best check after an update Hans ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl -----------------------------------------------------------------