I think it would look something like \definefontfamily[english] [rm] [EB Garamond] [features={default,dlig=no}] On Wed, Dec 2, 2020 at 12:14 PM T. Kurt Bond wrote:

It does help. Thanks.

But how do I turn that font feature off in ConTeXt?

On Wed, Dec 2, 2020 at 11:55 AM Joey McCollum wrote:

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If you're using Octavio Pardo's version of EB Garamond ( https://github.com/octaviopardo/EBGaramond12), then these ligatures are covered (along with the Th ligature) by the "dlig" (discretionary ligatures) feature, so you'll need to disable that. Unfortunately, this will also disable the Th ligature. This is a known, open issue for the font: https://github.com/octaviopardo/EBGaramond12/issues/20.

I hope this helps.

On Wed, Dec 2, 2020 at 11:41 AM T. Kurt Bond wrote:

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On 12/2/2020 6:14 PM, T. Kurt Bond wrote:

It does help.  Thanks.

But how do I turn that font feature off in ConTeXt? You forget to add a MWE ...

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You'll need to use the alias for the font family, as follows: \definefontfamily[english] [rm] [ebgaramond] [features={default, hlig=no}] \setupbodyfont[english,10pt] \starttext ct st \stoptext On Wed, Dec 2, 2020 at 12:56 PM T. Kurt Bond wrote:

Ah, ok.

Here is a minimal NONWORKING example: the resulting PDF shows the ct and st ligatures. What commands should I use to turn them off?

\definefontfamily[english] [rm] [ebgaramond] [features={default,dlig=no}] \setupbodyfont[ebgaramond,10pt] \starttext ct st \stoptext

On Wed, Dec 2, 2020 at 12:35 PM Hans Hagen wrote:

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On 12/2/2020 6:14 PM, T. Kurt Bond wrote:

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It does help. Thanks.

But how do I turn that font feature off in ConTeXt? You forget to add a MWE ...

Hans

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That did the trick, thanks! Should I put that on the wiki? Where should it go? On Wed, Dec 2, 2020 at 1:07 PM Joey McCollum wrote:

You'll need to use the alias for the font family, as follows:

\definefontfamily[english] [rm] [ebgaramond] [features={default, hlig=no}]

\setupbodyfont[english,10pt]

\starttext

ct st

\stoptext

On Wed, Dec 2, 2020 at 12:56 PM T. Kurt Bond wrote:

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Ah, ok.

Here is a minimal NONWORKING example: the resulting PDF shows the ct and st ligatures. What commands should I use to turn them off?

\definefontfamily[english] [rm] [ebgaramond] [features={default,dlig=no}] \setupbodyfont[ebgaramond,10pt] \starttext ct st \stoptext

On Wed, Dec 2, 2020 at 12:35 PM Hans Hagen wrote:

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On 12/2/2020 6:14 PM, T. Kurt Bond wrote:

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It does help. Thanks.

But how do I turn that font feature off in ConTeXt? You forget to add a MWE ...

Hans

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On 12/2/20 6:56 PM, T. Kurt Bond wrote:

Ah, ok.

Here is a minimal NONWORKING example: the resulting PDF shows the ct and st ligatures.  What commands should I use to turn them off?

Hi Kurt, here you have the sample that should work: %~ \definefontfamily[ebgaramond] [rm] [ebgaramond] %~ [features={default,dlig=no}] \definefontfeature[english][dlig=no] \definefontfamily[ebgaramond] [rm] [EB Garamond] [features={default,english}] \setupbodyfont[ebgaramond,10pt] \starttext ct st \stoptext BTW, on my system the default doesn’t get discretionary ligatures. Your sample didn’t work because the identifier for \definefontfamily (english) was different from the one used in \setupbodyfont. (If they don’t match, it cannot work.) Another cleaner approach is to define font features to invoke them in \definefontfamily. This method seems cleaner to me. I hope it helps, Pablo -- http://www.ousia.tk

On 12/2/2020 13:59, T. Kurt Bond wrote:

Interesting.

Here is a an example that sort of works, Variant 1:

\definefontfamily[english] [rm] [ebgaramond] [features={default, dlig=no}] \setupbodyfont[english,10pt] \starttext

Variant 1: Does this look like EBGaramond?

fi fl ffi ffl ct st \stoptext

However, it turns of *all* the ligatures.

Here is an example that works as expected, Variant 2:

\definefontfeature[english][dlig=no] \definefontfamily[ebgaramond] [rm] [EB Garamond]  [features={default,english}] \setupbodyfont[ebgaramond,10pt]

\starttext

Variant 2: Does this look like EBGaramond?

fi fl ffi ffl ct st \stoptext

It turns off just the ct and st ligatures.

I've attached the generated PDF files for both variants.

No, it turns off other ligatures as well, so is not a generally workable solution. (Try *fj* and *ſi*, for two examples.) -- Rik

I agree, this solution does seem cleaner to me. Thanks! On Wed, Dec 2, 2020 at 1:23 PM Pablo Rodriguez wrote:

On 12/2/20 6:56 PM, T. Kurt Bond wrote:

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Ah, ok.

Here is a minimal NONWORKING example: the resulting PDF shows the ct and st ligatures. What commands should I use to turn them off?

Hi Kurt,

here you have the sample that should work:

%~ \definefontfamily[ebgaramond] [rm] [ebgaramond]

%~ [features={default,dlig=no}]

\definefontfeature[english][dlig=no]

\definefontfamily[ebgaramond] [rm] [EB Garamond]

[features={default,english}]

\setupbodyfont[ebgaramond,10pt]

\starttext

ct st

\stoptext

BTW, on my system the default doesn’t get discretionary ligatures.

Your sample didn’t work because the identifier for \definefontfamily (english) was different from the one used in \setupbodyfont. (If they don’t match, it cannot work.)

Another cleaner approach is to define font features to invoke them in \definefontfamily. This method seems cleaner to me.

I hope it helps,

Pablo -- http://www.ousia.tk

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On 12/2/2020 13:34, Hans Hagen wrote:

On 12/2/2020 5:54 PM, Joey McCollum wrote:

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If you're using Octavio Pardo's version of EB Garamond (https://github.com/octaviopardo/EBGaramond12 https://github.com/octaviopardo/EBGaramond12), then these ligatures are covered (along with the Th ligature) by the "dlig" (discretionary ligatures) feature, so you'll need to disable that. Unfortunately, this will also disable the Th ligature. This is a known, open issue for the font: https://github.com/octaviopardo/EBGaramond12/issues/20 https://github.com/octaviopardo/EBGaramond12/issues/20. One of these examples where opensource fails ...

https://github.com/octaviopardo/EBGaramond12 https://github.com/georgd/EB-Garamond

A while ago I replaced AB on my machine in oirdert to test some issue so now I have to replace it again? Which one is the real one? Which one is the original? Which one are we supposed to support / configure?

\definefontfeature[whatever][default][rlig=yes] % \definefontfeature[whatever][default][rlig=yes,dlig=yes] % those st and ct ligs

\definefontfamily [english] [rm] [EB Garamond] [features=whatever] \definefontfamily [english] [mm] [Stix Two Math]

\setupbodyfont[english]

\starttext     fi fl ffi ffl ct st \stoptext

Using the ones pointed from google fonts.

Hans

Hello all, I am the one who posted issue #20 for the font back in January 2018. The report simply states that there is no way to get dlig without also getting hlig, and includes an easily reproducible demonstration (using LibreOffice on the assumption that it is more accessible for testing). Since then, there has been a PR submitted. Crickets. No action. As to which version of the font should be used, Georg Duffner transferred stewardship of the font to Octavio Pardo in 2017 or so. Pardo added support for faces beyond roman and italic (bold, semibold, extrabold). Some work was done a couple of years ago to support variable fonts, but nothing that can be used has yet come out of that effort. To a casual observer, the development and maintenance appears to be abandoned. I am sure that many would be happy to see work on this font resume, but projects like this are difficult to take over and support is thin. So, if you can find that satisfies your requirements as it is, use it. The Duffner versions (pre-Pardo) do not have this particular issue, and if you do not need emboldened faces or other updates Pardo may have implemented, that should work. Or look elsewhere. Although the range and licensing of EB Garamond was certainly attractive, there are plenty of Garamonds in the world. -- Rik