Hi Tomáš, Sorry but I do not know. I *do* know that you can do this: \definebreakpoints [czcompound] \definebreakpoint [czcompound] [-] [nleft=3,nright=3,type=4] \setbreakpoints [czcompound] And perhaps hook that into a language switch. Does that help?

On 22 Mar 2019, at 10:37, Tomas Hala wrote:

Hi,

thanks, that's it. I did some tests and no side-effects appeared. Moreover, it seems that it has no influence on \hyphentatedurl which is also ok.

But only one point I do not understand -- when I used the key language=cz, repeated hyphens disappeared. It would by fine if one can set it only for the given language(s), eg. for cz+sk yes and for en no. Is there any way for this?

Best wishes,

Tomáš

\definebreakpoint [compound] [-] [nleft=3,nright=3,type=4, language=cz] \setbreakpoints[compound]

Thu, Mar 21, 2019 ve 04:45:49PM +0100 Taco Hoekwater napsal(a): # Hi, # # \definebreakpoint [compound] [-] [nleft=3,nright=3,type=4] # \setbreakpoints[compound] # # But also check the wiki, there can be side-effects to \setbreakpoints[compound] # # https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Compound_words # # # Best wishes, # Taco # # > On 21 Mar 2019, at 16:23, Tomas Hala wrote: # > # > Hi all, # > # > in composed words with hyphen inside (e.g. modro-zelený = blue-green), the # > hyphen character must be repeated at the beginning of the new line # > (modro-/-zelený). This rule is obligatory for Czech and Slovak typesetting. # > # > I am able to implement this feature by defining a new command (see \def\= below) # > but it means that all appearances of "-" must be replaced (manually) in the source # > text. I tried all options of \setuphyphenation but no one gives the correct # > result. # > # > Is there any way in ConTeXt how to set it by default? # > # > Best wishes, # > # > Tomáš # > # > %%%%%% MWE: # > # > \starttext\mainlanguage[cz] # > \def\myboxik#1#2{\start\setuphyphenation[cz][method=#1]\startframedtext[width=1dd]\hbox{{\bf#1}}\crlf#2\stopframedtext\stop\par} # > \def\mybox#1{\myboxik{traditional}{#1}\myboxik{default}{#1}\myboxik{expanded}{#1}\myboxik{original}{#1}\myboxik{tex}{#1}\myboxik{hyphenate}{#1}\myboxik{none}{#1}} # > # > \mybox{modro-zelený} # > # > \def\={\discretionary{-}{-}{-}} # > \mybox{modro\=zelený} # > \stoptext # > # > %%%%%% # > # > ___________________________________________________________________________________ # > If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! # > # > maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context # > webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net # > archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ # > wiki : http://contextgarden.net # > ___________________________________________________________________________________ # # Taco Hoekwater # Elvenkind BV # # # # # ___________________________________________________________________________________ # If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! # # maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context # webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net # archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ # wiki : http://contextgarden.net # ___________________________________________________________________________________

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Somewhat cleaner is to do it this way: %%%%%%% \definebreakpoints[czcompound] \definebreakpoint[czcompound][-][nleft=3,nright=3,type=4] \appendtoks \ifx\mylanguage\currentlanguage \setbreakpoints[czcompound] \else \resetbreakpoints \fi \to\everylanguage It would be nice if that language= key would work, though (it is ignored, it seems) Taco

On 22 Mar 2019, at 15:38, Tomas Hala wrote:

Hi Taco,

good idea, I tried it but the problem is that it does not switch itself off automatically when the language is changed again.

The following code works but I guess that must be some more sophisticated ConTeXt way.

Best wishes,

Tomáš

%%%%%%%%%%%%%% \def\myboxik#1#2{\start\setuphyphenation[cz][method=#1]\startframedtext[width=1dd]\hbox{{\bf#1}}\crlf#2\stopframedtext\stop\par} \def\mybox#1{\myboxik{traditional}{#1}\myboxik{default}{#1}\myboxik{expanded}{#1}\myboxik{original}{#1}\myboxik{tex}{#1}\myboxik{hyphenate}{#1}\myboxik{none}{#1}\par\thinrule}

\starttext \definebreakpoints[czcompound]

\let\oldlanguage=\language \def\language[#1]{\oldlanguage[#1] \ifx\mylanguage\currentlanguage \definebreakpoint[czcompound][-][nleft=3,nright=3,type=4] \setbreakpoints[czcompound] \else \definebreakpoint[czcompound][-][nleft=3,nright=3,type=1] \setbreakpoints[czcompound] \fi} %%%% and the same for \mainlanguage

\def\mylanguage{cs}

\language[en] \mybox{modro-zelený} \language[cz] \mybox{modro-zelený} \language[en] \mybox{modro-zelený}

\stoptext %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%

Fri, Mar 22, 2019 ve 01:56:40PM +0100 Taco Hoekwater napsal(a): # Hi Tomáš, # # Sorry but I do not know. I *do* know that you can do this: # # \definebreakpoints [czcompound] # \definebreakpoint [czcompound] [-] [nleft=3,nright=3,type=4] # \setbreakpoints [czcompound] # # And perhaps hook that into a language switch. Does that help? # # # # > On 22 Mar 2019, at 10:37, Tomas Hala wrote: # > # > Hi, # > # > thanks, that's it. I did some tests and no side-effects appeared. # > Moreover, it seems that it has no influence on \hyphentatedurl which is also ok. # > # > But only one point I do not understand -- when I used the key # > language=cz, repeated hyphens disappeared. It would by fine if one # > can set it only for the given language(s), eg. for cz+sk yes and for en no. # > Is there any way for this? # > # > Best wishes, # > # > Tomáš # > # > # > \definebreakpoint [compound] [-] [nleft=3,nright=3,type=4, language=cz] # > \setbreakpoints[compound] # > # > # > Thu, Mar 21, 2019 ve 04:45:49PM +0100 Taco Hoekwater napsal(a): # > # Hi, # > # # > # \definebreakpoint [compound] [-] [nleft=3,nright=3,type=4] # > # \setbreakpoints[compound] # > # # > # But also check the wiki, there can be side-effects to \setbreakpoints[compound] # > # # > # https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Compound_words # > # # > # # > # Best wishes, # > # Taco # > # # > # > On 21 Mar 2019, at 16:23, Tomas Hala wrote: # > # > # > # > Hi all, # > # > # > # > in composed words with hyphen inside (e.g. modro-zelený = blue-green), the # > # > hyphen character must be repeated at the beginning of the new line # > # > (modro-/-zelený). This rule is obligatory for Czech and Slovak typesetting. # > # > # > # > I am able to implement this feature by defining a new command (see \def\= below) # > # > but it means that all appearances of "-" must be replaced (manually) in the source # > # > text. I tried all options of \setuphyphenation but no one gives the correct # > # > result. # > # > # > # > Is there any way in ConTeXt how to set it by default? # > # > # > # > Best wishes, # > # > # > # > Tomáš # > # > # > # > %%%%%% MWE: # > # > # > # > \starttext\mainlanguage[cz] # > # > \def\myboxik#1#2{\start\setuphyphenation[cz][method=#1]\startframedtext[width=1dd]\hbox{{\bf#1}}\crlf#2\stopframedtext\stop\par} # > # > \def\mybox#1{\myboxik{traditional}{#1}\myboxik{default}{#1}\myboxik{expanded}{#1}\myboxik{original}{#1}\myboxik{tex}{#1}\myboxik{hyphenate}{#1}\myboxik{none}{#1}} # > # > # > # > \mybox{modro-zelený} # > # > # > # > \def\={\discretionary{-}{-}{-}} # > # > \mybox{modro\=zelený} # > # > \stoptext # > # > # > # > %%%%%% # > # > # > # > ___________________________________________________________________________________ # > # > If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! # > # > # > # > maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context # > # > webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net # > # > archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ # > # > wiki : http://contextgarden.net # > # > ___________________________________________________________________________________ # > # # > # Taco Hoekwater # > # Elvenkind BV # > # # > # # > # # > # # > # ___________________________________________________________________________________ # > # If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! # > # # > # maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context # > # webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net # > # archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ # > # wiki : http://contextgarden.net # > # ___________________________________________________________________________________ # > # > Tomáš Hála # > -------------------------------------------------------------------- # > Mendelova univerzita, Provozně ekonomická fakulta, ústav informatiky # > Zemědělská 1, CZ-613 00 Brno, tel. +420 545 13 22 28 # > -------------------------------------------------------------------- # > http://akela.mendelu.cz/~thala # > ___________________________________________________________________________________ # > If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! # > # > maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context # > webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net # > archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ # > wiki : http://contextgarden.net # > ___________________________________________________________________________________ # # Taco Hoekwater # Elvenkind BV # # # # # ___________________________________________________________________________________ # If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! # # maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context # webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net # archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ # wiki : http://contextgarden.net # ___________________________________________________________________________________

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Sounds like you've got it working, but just to provide an alternative that should* work, according to the sources: \setuplanguage[cz] [compoundhyphen=-,% Or, to keep the \setuphyphenmark rightcompoundhyphen=-,% configuration mentioned in Taco's link: leftcompoundhyphen=-]% `*compoundhyphen=\compoundhyphen` That does require you to replace all the hyphens with `||`, which it understandably sounds like you want to avoid, but it can be good for someone like me who likes that explicit markup, or for someone who needs more control over which symbols go where (I'm using for Esperanto -- slightly non-standard -- a vertical tick mark for the inner-line and the left but the hyphen for the right). The main benefit, though, is that you can do the same thing for line-breaking hyphenation if you need to change that, just drop the `compound` in the keys. * I've been running into it working for the first break or two but than switching back to the default for the rest of the document, and haven't been able to track down why. Though it might have something to do with me still using the ridiculously out-of-date 2016.05.17 because I haven't gotten around to overriding the Gentoo package manager yet... Sam On Fri, Mar 22, 2019 at 04:57:24PM +0100, Tomas Hala wrote:

Hi Taco,

this is exactly what I needed, thank you very much.

Fri, Mar 22, 2019 ve 04:16:20PM +0100 Taco Hoekwater napsal(a): # Somewhat cleaner is to do it this way: # %%%%%%% # \definebreakpoints[czcompound] # \definebreakpoint[czcompound][-][nleft=3,nright=3,type=4] # # \appendtoks # \ifx\mylanguage\currentlanguage # \setbreakpoints[czcompound] # \else # \resetbreakpoints # \fi # \to\everylanguage # # It would be nice if that language= key would work, though (it is ignored, it seems)

I agree...

Best wishes,

Tomá??

# Taco # # # > On 22 Mar 2019, at 15:38, Tomas Hala wrote: # > # > Hi Taco, # > # > good idea, I tried it but the problem is that it does not switch itself off # > automatically when the language is changed again. # > # > The following code works but I guess that must be some more sophisticated # > ConTeXt way. # > # > Best wishes, # > # > Tomá?? # > # > # > %%%%%%%%%%%%%% # > \def\myboxik#1#2{\start\setuphyphenation[cz][method=#1]\startframedtext[width=1dd]\hbox{{\bf#1}}\crlf#2\stopframedtext\stop\par} # > \def\mybox#1{\myboxik{traditional}{#1}\myboxik{default}{#1}\myboxik{expanded}{#1}\myboxik{original}{#1}\myboxik{tex}{#1}\myboxik{hyphenate}{#1}\myboxik{none}{#1}\par\thinrule} # > # > \starttext # > \definebreakpoints[czcompound] # > # > \let\oldlanguage=\language # > \def\language[#1]{\oldlanguage[#1] # > \ifx\mylanguage\currentlanguage \definebreakpoint[czcompound][-][nleft=3,nright=3,type=4] \setbreakpoints[czcompound] # > \else \definebreakpoint[czcompound][-][nleft=3,nright=3,type=1] \setbreakpoints[czcompound] # > \fi} %%%% and the same for \mainlanguage # > # > \def\mylanguage{cs} # > # > \language[en] \mybox{modro-zelený} # > \language[cz] \mybox{modro-zelený} # > \language[en] \mybox{modro-zelený} # > # > \stoptext # > %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% # > # > Fri, Mar 22, 2019 ve 01:56:40PM +0100 Taco Hoekwater napsal(a): # > # Hi Tomá??, # > # # > # Sorry but I do not know. I *do* know that you can do this: # > # # > # \definebreakpoints [czcompound] # > # \definebreakpoint [czcompound] [-] [nleft=3,nright=3,type=4] # > # \setbreakpoints [czcompound] # > # # > # And perhaps hook that into a language switch. Does that help? # > # # > # # > # # > # > On 22 Mar 2019, at 10:37, Tomas Hala wrote: # > # > # > # > Hi, # > # > # > # > thanks, that's it. I did some tests and no side-effects appeared. # > # > Moreover, it seems that it has no influence on \hyphentatedurl which is also ok. # > # > # > # > But only one point I do not understand -- when I used the key # > # > language=cz, repeated hyphens disappeared. It would by fine if one # > # > can set it only for the given language(s), eg. for cz+sk yes and for en no. # > # > Is there any way for this? # > # > # > # > Best wishes, # > # > # > # > Tomá?? # > # > # > # > # > # > \definebreakpoint [compound] [-] [nleft=3,nright=3,type=4, language=cz] # > # > \setbreakpoints[compound] # > # > # > # > # > # > Thu, Mar 21, 2019 ve 04:45:49PM +0100 Taco Hoekwater napsal(a): # > # > # Hi, # > # > # # > # > # \definebreakpoint [compound] [-] [nleft=3,nright=3,type=4] # > # > # \setbreakpoints[compound] # > # > # # > # > # But also check the wiki, there can be side-effects to \setbreakpoints[compound] # > # > # # > # > # https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Compound_words # > # > # # > # > # # > # > # Best wishes, # > # > # Taco # > # > # # > # > # > On 21 Mar 2019, at 16:23, Tomas Hala wrote: # > # > # > # > # > # > Hi all, # > # > # > # > # > # > in composed words with hyphen inside (e.g. modro-zelený = blue-green), the # > # > # > hyphen character must be repeated at the beginning of the new line # > # > # > (modro-/-zelený). This rule is obligatory for Czech and Slovak typesetting. # > # > # > # > # > # > I am able to implement this feature by defining a new command (see \def\= below) # > # > # > but it means that all appearances of "-" must be replaced (manually) in the source # > # > # > text. I tried all options of \setuphyphenation but no one gives the correct # > # > # > result. # > # > # > # > # > # > Is there any way in ConTeXt how to set it by default? # > # > # > # > # > # > Best wishes, # > # > # > # > # > # > Tomá?? # > # > # > # > # > # > %%%%%% MWE: # > # > # > # > # > # > \starttext\mainlanguage[cz] # > # > # > \def\myboxik#1#2{\start\setuphyphenation[cz][method=#1]\startframedtext[width=1dd]\hbox{{\bf#1}}\crlf#2\stopframedtext\stop\par} # > # > # > \def\mybox#1{\myboxik{traditional}{#1}\myboxik{default}{#1}\myboxik{expanded}{#1}\myboxik{original}{#1}\myboxik{tex}{#1}\myboxik{hyphenate}{#1}\myboxik{none}{#1}} # > # > # > # > # > # > \mybox{modro-zelený} # > # > # > # > # > # > \def\={\discretionary{-}{-}{-}} # > # > # > \mybox{modro\=zelený} # > # > # > \stoptext # > # > # > # > # > # > %%%%%% # > # > # > # > # > # > ___________________________________________________________________________________ # > # > # > If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! # > # > # > # > # > # > maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context # > # > # > webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net # > # > # > archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ # > # > # > wiki : http://contextgarden.net # > # > # > ___________________________________________________________________________________ # > # > # # > # > # Taco Hoekwater # > # > # Elvenkind BV # > # > # # > # > # # > # > # # > # > # # > # > # ___________________________________________________________________________________ # > # > # If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! # > # > # # > # > # maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context # > # > # webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net # > # > # archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ # > # > # wiki : http://contextgarden.net # > # > # ___________________________________________________________________________________ # > # > # > # > Tomá?? 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