On May 24, 2014, at 1:12 PM, Rik Kabel wrote:

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On 2014-05-24 06:26, Hans Hagen wrote:

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On 5/24/2014 4:11 AM, Rik Kabel wrote: For the /\framed/ command, any value for the key /align /other than a null value pushes the frame beyond the bottom margin on a landscape page for many values of /orientation/. The following MWE demonstrates this:

\setuppapersize [A4,landscape] \starttext \framed[orientation=90,align=no]{\externalfigure[dummy]} \stoptext

It also seems that the default value of /align/// is not /no/ as the wiki suggests, since there is a very different result when no align key is provided and when it is provided as above with /no/, if by a default value one means that, when a given key is not explicitly provided, processing will occur as if it had been provided with that particular value.

\setuppapersize [A4,landscape]

\starttext

\framed[orientation=90,width=\textheight,align=no]{\externalfigure[dummy]} \stoptext Thank you, Hans. That pointed me in the right direction, although it is not the solution in my case.

The problem was with align=no. It does not, as I surmised, lead to the same result as having no align key at all. The following shows the differences clearly. What I am after is the fifth page. I would think that the wiki is incorrect in stating that the default value for the align key is no, but I do not know what is the proper description of the default. \setuppapersize [A5,landscape][A4] \definebodyfontenvironment [default][d=6] \showframe \starttext \framed[align=no]{\tfd 1} \page \framed[]{\tfd 2} \page \framed[orientation=90,align=no,width=\textheight]{\tfd 3} \page \framed[orientation=90,align=no]{\tfd 4} \page \framed[orientation=90]{\tfd 5} \stoptext

Without any align key, \framed is a \hbox; with align it is a \vbox. That might explain the difference that you see. Try adding \dontleavehmode in front of \framed Aditya

On 5/25/2014 7:06 PM, Rik Kabel wrote:

On 2014-05-25 00:12, Aditya Mahajan wrote:

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On May 24, 2014, at 1:12 PM, Rik Kabel mailto:context@rik.users.panix.com> wrote:

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On 2014-05-24 06:26, Hans Hagen wrote:

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On 5/24/2014 4:11 AM, Rik Kabel wrote:

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For the /\framed/ command, any value for the key /align /other than a null value pushes the frame beyond the bottom margin on a landscape page for many values of /orientation/. The following MWE demonstrates this:

\setuppapersize [A4,landscape] \starttext \framed[orientation=90,align=no]{\externalfigure[dummy]} \stoptext

It also seems that the default value of /align/// is not /no/ as the wiki suggests, since there is a very different result when no align key is provided and when it is provided as above with /no/, if by a default value one means that, when a given key is not explicitly provided, processing will occur as if it had been provided with that particular value.

\setuppapersize [A4,landscape]

\starttext

\framed[orientation=90,width=\textheight,align=no]{\externalfigure[dummy]}

\stoptext

Thank you, Hans. That pointed me in the right direction, although it is not the solution in my case.

The problem was with align=no. It does not, as I surmised, lead to the same result as having no align key at all. The following shows the differences clearly. What I am after is the fifth page. I would think that the wiki is incorrect in stating that the default value for the align key is no, but I do not know what is the proper description of the default.

\setuppapersize [A5,landscape][A4] \definebodyfontenvironment [default][d=6] \showframe \starttext \framed[align=no]{\tfd 1} \page \framed[]{\tfd 2} \page \framed[orientation=90,align=no,width=\textheight]{\tfd 3} \page \framed[orientation=90,align=no]{\tfd 4} \page \framed[orientation=90]{\tfd 5} \stoptext

Without any align key, \framed is a \hbox; with align it is a \vbox. That might explain the difference that you see. Try adding \dontleavehmode in front of \framed

Aditya

Alas, Aditya, \dontleavehmode does not appear to make a difference.

I think that we might expect frames 1 and 4 above to produce similar results, as do frames 2 and 5. They do not, and I am trying to understand why that is.

The fact that it is landscape just exacerbates the problem, pushing some of the text off the page. Remove that and the differences are still there; the text is still on the page although not where I expect it. Hans's resetting of the width does make the landscape result the same as the portrait result, with the frame pushed just to the lower edge of the text area, but it does not address the different treatment with and without align.

it's a different issue one of the 'features' of framed is that (in mkii as well as mkiv) it can determine the minimum width of a paragraph and orientation doesn't work well with that in the source you will find a comment: \pack_framed_stop_orientation % hm, wrong place ! should rotate the result (after reshape) if you move that line to after \edef\p_framed_empty{\framedparameter\c!empty}% \ifx\p_framed_empty\v!yes \pack_framed_fake_box \fi \pack_framed_stop_orientation % here you get what you expected ... but ... such a change can only happen when we're sure it work out okay always Hans ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | voip: 087 875 68 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl -----------------------------------------------------------------