I forgot to ask: does only pdftex cause problems or also metapost, luatex, xetex? It might help to know which of these programs still work. Mojca

On Sun, Nov 01 2009, Vnpenguin wrote:

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xetex xetex: /usr/lib64/libstdc++.so.6: version `GLIBCXX_3.4.9' not found (required by xetex)

Hello, Here, I don't know how to help. I've these packages on my system: libstdc++33-3.3.3 libstdc++33-devel-3.3.3 libstdc++41-devel-4.1.3_20080612 libstdc++43-devel-4.3.3_20080904 libstdc++44-4.4.0_20090519 libstdc++-devel-4.3 But I don't know how to select the library for building xetex... Cheers, Peter -- Contact information: http://pmrb.free.fr/contact/

2009/11/1 Mojca Miklavec :

Or maybe I was too fast. I don't find the exact timeline of libc development, so I have no idea how old your linux is. I thought that this failure was recent, but apparently it's not (the garden most probably has libc-2.8). For 32-bit linux we try to be *very* backward compatible. For 64-bit Peter most probably has the oldest linux OS running on 64-bit processor in the community.

You are the first one with something older. The problem is that either: - we need to find someone that will compile the binaries on old-enough linux - or, if you have a chance to figure out how to upgrade to something that supports at least 2.7

2.7 is quite new, and 2.8 is very new. My SUSE 10.3 (which is now two years old and will be upgraded soon) has 2.6.1. Best Martin

Martin Schröder wrote:

2009/11/1 Mojca Miklavec :

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Yes, the easy answer would be "upgrade your linux", but we probably want the binaries to run on slightly older machines as well.

Indeed. Btw: The binaries from TL run on SUSE 10.1 (which has glibc 2.4).

ah, so maybe you can learn mojca a few tricks then; does this mean that tex live binaries have some built in magic that checks for libs? Hans ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl -----------------------------------------------------------------

Martin Schröder wrote:

2009/11/1 Hans Hagen :

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Indeed. Btw: The binaries from TL run on SUSE 10.1 (which has glibc 2.4). ah, so maybe you can learn mojca a few tricks then; does this mean that tex

Martin Schröder wrote: live binaries have some built in magic that checks for libs?

No, they are simply build on old systems. Ask Peter. :-)

ah, so they're static binaries Hans ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl -----------------------------------------------------------------

On Sun, Nov 1, 2009 at 19:03, Martin Schröder wrote:

2009/11/1 Mojca Miklavec:

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Yes, the easy answer would be "upgrade your linux", but we probably want the binaries to run on slightly older machines as well.

Indeed. Btw: The binaries from TL run on SUSE 10.1 (which has glibc 2.4).

I'm sweating ... trying to download Sarge DVD on this extra-slow connection. And then you remind me that I have a big cartoon box of original SuSE 7.2 right below my desk. (Maybe I should start considering throwing away a few things like this one, though it seems to come handy from time to time when one least expects it.) (The only problem is that I'm not yet sure if SVN has already been developed at the time when SuSE 7 has been released.) Mojca

On Sun, Nov 1, 2009 at 18:50, Mojca Miklavec wrote:

On Sun, Nov 1, 2009 at 18:00, Vnpenguin wrote:

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pdftex: /lib64/libc.so.6: version `GLIBC_2.7' not found (required by pdftex)

glibc.i686                                               2.5-42

Any help for this problem ?

Yes, the easy answer would be "upgrade your linux", but we probably want the binaries to run on slightly older machines as well.

My box CentOS 5.4 with all updates. What do you mean "upgrade" ? Q

On Sun, Nov 1, 2009 at 19:30, Martin Schröder wrote:

2009/11/1 Vnpenguin :

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My box CentOS 5.4 with all updates. What do you mean "upgrade" ?

What glibc-version do you have? rpm -qi glibc?

# yum list installed glibc\* Excluding Packages in global exclude list Finished Installed Packages glibc.i686 2.5-42 installed glibc.x86_64 2.5-42 installed # rpm -qi glibc Name : glibc Relocations: (not relocatable) Version : 2.5 Vendor: CentOS Release : 42 Build Date: Thu 03 Sep 2009 02:19:32 AM CEST Install Date: Mon 26 Oct 2009 10:15:57 AM CET Build Host: builder10.centos.org Group : System Environment/Libraries Source RPM: glibc-2.5-42.src.rpm Size : 11658002 License: LGPL Signature : DSA/SHA1, Thu 01 Oct 2009 02:40:46 AM CEST, Key ID a8a447dce8562897 Summary : The GNU libc libraries. Description : The glibc package contains standard libraries which are used by multiple programs on the system. In order to save disk space and memory, as well as to make upgrading easier, common system code is kept in one place and shared between programs. This particular package contains the most important sets of shared libraries: the standard C library and the standard math library. Without these two libraries, a Linux system will not function. Name : glibc Relocations: (not relocatable) Version : 2.5 Vendor: CentOS Release : 42 Build Date: Thu 03 Sep 2009 02:56:59 AM CEST Install Date: Mon 26 Oct 2009 10:16:12 AM CET Build Host: builder16.centos.org Group : System Environment/Libraries Source RPM: glibc-2.5-42.src.rpm Size : 12629247 License: LGPL Signature : DSA/SHA1, Thu 01 Oct 2009 02:40:45 AM CEST, Key ID a8a447dce8562897 Summary : The GNU libc libraries. Description : The glibc package contains standard libraries which are used by multiple programs on the system. In order to save disk space and memory, as well as to make upgrading easier, common system code is kept in one place and shared between programs. This particular package contains the most important sets of shared libraries: the standard C library and the standard math library. Without these two libraries, a Linux system will not function. Thanks -- http://vnoss.org

On Sun, Nov 1, 2009 at 19:59, Mojca Miklavec wrote:

On Sun, Nov 1, 2009 at 19:24, Vnpenguin wrote:

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On Sun, Nov 1, 2009 at 18:50, Mojca Miklavec wrote:

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On Sun, Nov 1, 2009 at 18:00, Vnpenguin wrote:

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pdftex: /lib64/libc.so.6: version `GLIBC_2.7' not found (required by pdftex)

glibc.i686                                               2.5-42

Any help for this problem ?

Yes, the easy answer would be "upgrade your linux", but we probably want the binaries to run on slightly older machines as well.

My box CentOS 5.4 with all updates. What do you mean "upgrade" ?

Hello,

Apparently it means that CentOS uses something like a several-years-span-back-in-time libc library and you cannot do much about it. That's no problem in general since you would not take a suse-compiled firefox and take the binary to your CentOS.

Hey, CentOS 5.4 just released on 21-May-2009 :-) If I have problem with ConTeXt on CentOS 5.4 so all users of RHEL 5.4 are the same: they can not!

You are the first user that has complained so far (most probably because you are the first user to try ConTeXt on CentOS). There are several options: a) (dangerous; I would not do it) install a more recent version of libc on your machine

It's NOT possible.

b) we need to set up some virtual machine with an old linux and compile binaries there or find someone else with a reasonably old 64-bit linux server

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c) you would need to compile the binaries for minimals on regular basis

Howto do this ? Is there any guide ?

d) since LuaTeX works fine, just stick to MKIV (MKII is highly unsuitable for writing Vietnamese anyway :) :) :) e) Reinhard was trying to convince me to typeset some of his Vietnamese documents in ConTeXt back in May. Those test documents have revealed quite some bugs in font setups in ConTeXt MKII. If Reinhard still neeeds fixed Vietnamese in ConTeXt MKII, we'll gladly give him svn account to commit 64-bit linux binaries for minimals, so that he doesn't get out of "the art of compiling TeX binaries exercise" between the long breaks in TeX Live releases.

I setup ConTeXt to test some things at work, nothing to see with vietnamese yet. If it's not possible with ConTeXt minimal distro, maybe I'll go for TeXlive. Thanks -- http://vnoss.org

2009/11/1 Vnpenguin :

Correction: CentOS 5.4 was released on 21-Oct-2009. So it's not so "old" at all :-)

Sorry, but it is. It's a free version of RHEL5, which was initially released in 2007. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centos It you want something modern, use e.g. Fedora. Best Martin

Vnpenguin, what kernel is running on your OS? If we set up a virtual machine for compiling binaries - does anyone have a suggesting what OS to take, so that it will remain compatible with as many x86_64 processors as possible? (Apparently glibc and kerner are the deciding factors; but it needs to have support for 64-bit machines that are not as old as it seems after all.) Reinhard - what linux are you using for TL? Mojca

On 1 November 2009 Mojca Miklavec wrote:

Vnpenguin, what kernel is running on your OS?

If we set up a virtual machine for compiling binaries - does anyone have a suggesting what OS to take, so that it will remain compatible with as many x86_64 processors as possible? (Apparently glibc and kerner are the deciding factors; but it needs to have support for 64-bit machines that are not as old as it seems after all.)

Reinhard - what linux are you using for TL?

# uname -a Linux zaphod 2.6.20-gentoo-r8 #1 SMP Mon Apr 14 01:07:33 CEST 2008 x86_64 AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 4800+ AuthenticAMD GNU/Linux But please note that the binaries for this platform were provided by Peter Breitenlohner this year. His system is even older than mine. It's better to ask him if you need the details (peb at mppmu.mpg.de). BTW, the glibc is much more important than the kernel. And maybe the version of gcc matters, too. Regards, Reinhard -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Reinhard Kotucha Phone: +49-511-3373112 Marschnerstr. 25 D-30167 Hannover mailto:reinhard.kotucha@web.de ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Microsoft isn't the answer. Microsoft is the question, and the answer is NO. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------

On Sun, Nov 01 2009, Vnpenguin wrote:

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a) (dangerous; I would not do it) install a more recent version of libc on your machine

It's NOT possible.

Hello Vnpenguin, Why not?

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b) we need to set up some virtual machine with an old linux and compile binaries there or find someone else with a reasonably old 64-bit linux server

I could set up such a system, but not immediately (in a few weeks probably). Cheers, Peter -- Contact information: http://pmrb.free.fr/contact/