Hi all, consulting the wiki I found http://context.aanhet.net/svn/contextman/context-reference/en/co-pagedesign.... and the command \setuparranging [TRYPTICHON]. So I think that I should be able to make a pdf for a flyer and print it with an online printer. But as I am still very new to ConTeXt, I need a kickstart doing it. Has anybody made a template for a leaflet flyer. In Germany we call it DIN lang afaik, I don't know the English name of the format. But it ends up with six pages (width 99mm/ height 210 mm). TIA juh
\definepapersize [A4/3] [width=99mm,height=210mm] \setuppapersize [A4/3] [A4,landscape] \setuparranging [TRYPTICHON] \setupbodyfont [10pt] \starttext \dorecurse{12}{\samplefile{knuth}} \stoptext Wolfgang Jan U. Hasecke schrieb am 21.09.18 um 15:27:
Hi all,
consulting the wiki I found http://context.aanhet.net/svn/contextman/context-reference/en/co-pagedesign.... and the command \setuparranging [TRYPTICHON]. So I think that I should be able to make a pdf for a flyer and print it with an online printer.
But as I am still very new to ConTeXt, I need a kickstart doing it.
Has anybody made a template for a leaflet flyer. In Germany we call it DIN lang afaik, I don't know the English name of the format. But it ends up with six pages (width 99mm/ height 210 mm).
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Jan U. Hasecke schrieb am 21.09.18 um 16:03:
Thanks a lot. This is really straight forward. Embarrasing. ;-)
You should also read the following thread where the goal was to optimize the size of the inner pages to make folding easier. https://mailman.ntg.nl/pipermail/ntg-context/2018/091766.html
On 21.09.18 15:48, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
\definepapersize [A4/3] [width=99mm,height=210mm]
\setuppapersize [A4/3] [A4,landscape] One question: is "A4/3" just a marker or does it include calculation?
It’s just a name for the paper size and the / is part of it, I choose it because we already have A4/2 as a predefined size. Wolfgang
I use 3 steps to make: https://www.fedarch.org/resources/introPamphlet.pdf
Step 1, I lay out each individual page in a document.
Step 2. I make the cover in its own document. (I confess I don't remember
why I chose to do this)
Step 3. And then in a different document, I perform imposition to map the
pages to the folds.
My imposition code:
\definepapersize[sheet][width=99mm,height=210mm]
\setuppapersize[sheet][A4, landscape]
\setuppaper[nx=3, ny=1, dx=0mm, dy=0mm] % must come before \setuparranging!
\setuplayout[page][location=middle, marking=on]
\setuparranging [XY]
\setuplayout
[backspace=0pt,
topspace=0pt,
width=middle,
height=middle,
location=middle,
header=0pt,
footer=0pt]
\starttext
\filterpages[../pdf/mobilePamphletInterior.pdf][4][width=0pt]
\filterpages[../pdf/mobilePamphletCover.pdf][2][width=0pt]
\filterpages[../pdf/mobilePamphletCover.pdf][1][width=0pt]
\filterpages[../pdf/mobilePamphletInterior.pdf][1,2,3][width=0pt]
\stoptext
On Fri, 21 Sep 2018 at 23:27, Jan U. Hasecke
Hi all,
consulting the wiki I found
http://context.aanhet.net/svn/contextman/context-reference/en/co-pagedesign.... and the command \setuparranging [TRYPTICHON]. So I think that I should be able to make a pdf for a flyer and print it with an online printer.
But as I am still very new to ConTeXt, I need a kickstart doing it.
Has anybody made a template for a leaflet flyer. In Germany we call it DIN lang afaik, I don't know the English name of the format. But it ends up with six pages (width 99mm/ height 210 mm).
TIA juh
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On Fri, 21 Sep 2018 15:27:02 +0200
"Jan U. Hasecke"
consulting the wiki I found http://context.aanhet.net/svn/contextman/context-reference/en/co-pagedesign.... and the command \setuparranging [TRYPTICHON]. So I think that I should be able to make a pdf for a flyer and print it with an online printer.
But as I am still very new to ConTeXt, I need a kickstart doing it.
A while ago I made a corporate flyer with context using the TRYPTICHON method. Printing required 3mm bleed.
Has anybody made a template for a leaflet flyer.
I created a context module for the flyer, so it was easy to add content and support different languages. However, this is a very specific module including corporate design and nothing generally usable. I trimmed the specific parts and attached a working file producing a flyer. I left a few bits of the page design in the file. Marco
Hi Marco, On 21.09.18 16:56, Marco Patzer wrote:
A while ago I made a corporate flyer with context using the TRYPTICHON method. Printing required 3mm bleed.
Thanks a lot for this template. This is exactly what I need. I try to understand it in order to adapt it to the requirements of my print shop which only needs a bleed of 1mm. I hope that I understand it right: Page 1,2,3 and 6 are 100mm Page 4 and 5 are 97mm as these are the pages that are folded to the inside. The measure "shortfold" (3mm) reduces the 100mm page to 97mm. Right? The pageshift thing is beyond my horizon so I won't comment on this. You adjust the backspace of the pages with multiples of the measure "big". Right? As you can see in my example I use layers on page 2-4 to have bleeding images on the top of the page. This works more or less. But as you can see there are blank white spaces between the images of page 2-4. Maybe I can adjust this by using absolut measures like 100mm or 97mm in the layers. I have to adjust the layout of pages 2-4 so that the text starts below the images. An now here is my question. Is there a value I can simply change to have a pdf with only 1mm bleed? Only adjusting the papersize A4-flyer to 299mm/212mm does not work of course. TIA juh
On Mon, 24 Sep 2018 22:25:52 +0200
"Jan U. Hasecke"
On 21.09.18 16:56, Marco Patzer wrote:
A while ago I made a corporate flyer with context using the TRYPTICHON method. Printing required 3mm bleed.
Thanks a lot for this template. This is exactly what I need.
I try to understand it in order to adapt it to the requirements of my print shop which only needs a bleed of 1mm.
I hope that I understand it right:
Page 1,2,3 and 6 are 100mm
correct
Page 4 and 5 are 97mm as these are the pages that are folded to the inside.
The measure "shortfold" (3mm) reduces the 100mm page to 97mm. Right?
correct
The pageshift thing is beyond my horizon so I won't comment on this.
Without the pageshift, the pages don't touch because of different page sizes. Just comment out \setuppageshift and check the result.
You adjust the backspace of the pages with multiples of the measure "big". Right?
Multiples of measure “small”, but yes. That's general page layout, nothing to do with unequal pages or bleed.
As you can see in my example I use layers on page 2-4 to have bleeding images on the top of the page. This works more or less.
But as you can see there are blank white spaces between the images of page 2-4. Maybe I can adjust this by using absolut measures like 100mm or 97mm in the layers.
Your dimensions were wrong, try: \setlayer[topic1] [x=-1mm, y=-1mm] {\externalfigure[../bilder/topic1.png][width=101mm]}
I have to adjust the layout of pages 2-4 so that the text starts below the images.
For background images layers are probably the right tool. For the other images I used \startplacefigure … \stopplacefigure. Then context takes care of the rest.
An now here is my question. Is there a value I can simply change to have a pdf with only 1mm bleed?
No, I used the fact that bleed = shortfold = 3mm. The was of course not very generic. You should create a new variable: \definemeasure [bleed] [1mm] Then set \definepageshift [flyer] [vertical] [\measure{bleed}] And adjust the horizontal page shift accordingly. That part is a bit messy in my example. The variables are wrong, but the result was correct. If it's a one-off thing, you could just use absolute values: \definepageshift [flyer] [horizontal] [-2mm, 1mm, 1mm, 6.8mm, 1mm, -2mm] In general it shouldn't be too hard to create two variables, “bleed” and “shortfold” and make the rest dependent on those two. But this didn't work for page shift when I tried. Probably because I didn't really grasp how pageshift works. Marco
On 25.09.18 09:56, Marco Patzer wrote:
In general it shouldn't be too hard to create two variables, “bleed” and “shortfold” and make the rest dependent on those two. But this didn't work for page shift when I tried. Probably because I didn't really grasp how pageshift works.
\definemeasure [bleed] [3mm] I used this value to generalize the A4-flyer dimensions. \definepapersize [A4-flyer] [width=\dimexpr297mm+2\measured{bleed}\relax, height=\dimexpr210mm+2\measured{bleed}\relax] But horizontal pageshift is beyond my grasp. I can't see how to generalize the values. This example of yours works with 1mm bleed. \definepageshift [flyer] [horizontal] [-2mm, 1mm, 1mm, 6.8mm, 1mm, -2mm] This seems to work with 2mm bleed: \definepageshift [flyer] [horizontal] [-1mm, 2mm, 2mm, 8mm, 2mm, -1mm] And these are your values with 3mm bleed. \definepageshift [flyer] [horizontal] [\zeropoint, % 0 \measure{shortfold}, % 3mm \measure{shortfold}, % 3mm 3\measured{shortfold}, % 9mm \measure{shortfold}, % 3mm \zeropoint] % 0 I tried to calculate it, but this equation is wrong. \definepageshift [flyer] [horizontal] [\dimexpr\measure{bleed}-\measure{shortfold}\relax, \measure{shortfold}, \measure{shortfold}, 3\measured{shortfold}, \measure{shortfold}, \dimexpr\measure{bleed}-\measure{shortfold}\relax ] It only works for a bleed of 3 mm. juh
On Tue, 25 Sep 2018 12:57:54 +0200
"Jan U. Hasecke"
\definemeasure [bleed] [3mm]
I used this value to generalize the A4-flyer dimensions.
\definepapersize [A4-flyer] [width=\dimexpr297mm+2\measured{bleed}\relax, height=\dimexpr210mm+2\measured{bleed}\relax]
That looks good. Note that the value 297 needs to be changed if “shortfold” is changed. Which is unlikely because it's based on an A4 paper size. Still, keep that in mind.
But horizontal pageshift is beyond my grasp.
I can't see how to generalize the values.
I looked into it and this is what I came up with: \definepageshift [flyer] [horizontal] [\dimexpr\measure{bleed}/2-\measure{shortfold}\relax, \dimexpr\measure{bleed}/2\relax, \dimexpr\measure{bleed}/2\relax, \dimexpr\measure{bleed}/2+2\measured{shortfold}\relax, \dimexpr\measure{bleed}/2\relax, \dimexpr\measure{bleed}/2-\measure{shortfold}\relax] Marco
On 26.09.18 09:03, Marco Patzer wrote:
I looked into it and this is what I came up with:
\definepageshift [flyer] [horizontal] [\dimexpr\measure{bleed}/2-\measure{shortfold}\relax, \dimexpr\measure{bleed}/2\relax, \dimexpr\measure{bleed}/2\relax, \dimexpr\measure{bleed}/2+2\measured{shortfold}\relax, \dimexpr\measure{bleed}/2\relax, \dimexpr\measure{bleed}/2-\measure{shortfold}\relax]
I don't get the same values like before, when I calculate with these equations. And while the aligns of the pages look good I get irregular bleeds. Especially the left edge bleed seems to be too small. I am so bad at math. :-( juh
On 26.09.18 12:56, Jan U. Hasecke wrote:
On 26.09.18 09:03, Marco Patzer wrote:
I looked into it and this is what I came up with:
\definepageshift [flyer] [horizontal] [\dimexpr\measure{bleed}/2-\measure{shortfold}\relax, \dimexpr\measure{bleed}/2\relax, \dimexpr\measure{bleed}/2\relax, \dimexpr\measure{bleed}/2+2\measured{shortfold}\relax, \dimexpr\measure{bleed}/2\relax, \dimexpr\measure{bleed}/2-\measure{shortfold}\relax]
I don't get the same values like before, when I calculate with these equations.
And while the aligns of the pages look good I get irregular bleeds. Especially the left edge bleed seems to be too small.
I am so bad at math. :-(
After writing down all values I realized that I never questioned the strange value 6.8. With 7 it is quite easy. ;-) \definepageshift [flyer] [horizontal] [\dimexpr\measure{bleed}-\measured{shortfold}\relax, \measure{bleed}, \measure{bleed}, \dimexpr2\measured{shortfold}+\measured{bleed}\relax, \measure{bleed}, \dimexpr\measure{bleed}-\measured{shortfold}\relax ] Thanks a lot for your help. juh -- Soziale Plastik. Die Kunst der Allmende Essay zum 30. Todestag von Joseph Beuys http://www.amazon.de/dp/1523458763/ Taschenbuch, 130 Seiten, EUR 9,90
I wikified this by putting a template on the Wiki. https://wiki.contextgarden.net/DIN_lang_folder Thanks a lot for your help. juh
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