Hi all,
are there phonetic symbols to use in ConTeXt? like tipa for LaTeX
thanks for help
Bernd
are there phonetic symbols to use in ConTeXt? like tipa for LaTeX
There's no ready module or encoding AFAIK. But if you have the fonts (e.g. SIL fonts), perhaps have a look how Adam addresses Unicode symbols: http://homepage.mac.com/atl/tex/
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Henning Hraban Ramm said this at Wed, 23 Jun 2004 18:45:16 +0200:
are there phonetic symbols to use in ConTeXt? like tipa for LaTeX
There's no ready module or encoding AFAIK. But if you have the fonts (e.g. SIL fonts), perhaps have a look how Adam addresses Unicode symbols: http://homepage.mac.com/atl/tex/
Nothing phonetic up there yet, but I sent a starting module & encoding to the list a couple weeks ago prompted by Sjoerd's question about it. I haven't pursued it further (it needs a lot more work!) b/c I haven't received any feedback on how it wants to be used.
Bernd, I'll forward the thing I've come up with off-list. It builds on the TIPA fonts in the LaTeX package.
adam
On Wednesday 23 June 2004 15:40, Adam Lindsay wrote:
Henning Hraban Ramm said this at Wed, 23 Jun 2004 18:45:16 +0200:
are there phonetic symbols to use in ConTeXt? like tipa for LaTeX
There's no ready module or encoding AFAIK. But if you have the fonts (e.g. SIL fonts), perhaps have a look how Adam addresses Unicode symbols: http://homepage.mac.com/atl/tex/
Nothing phonetic up there yet, but I sent a starting module & encoding to the list a couple weeks ago prompted by Sjoerd's question about it. I haven't pursued it further (it needs a lot more work!) b/c I haven't received any feedback on how it wants to be used.
Bernd, I'll forward the thing I've come up with off-list. It builds on the TIPA fonts in the LaTeX package.
adam
This is a bit heretical I know but couldn't one just use a \font\foo=nameoffont at 12pt type statement?
John Culleton said this at Wed, 1 Dec 2004 09:09:49 -0500:
Bernd, I'll forward the thing I've come up with off-list. It builds on the TIPA fonts in the LaTeX package.
This is a bit heretical I know but couldn't one just use a \font\foo=nameoffont at 12pt type statement?
Wow, this was a blast from the past.
Nothing wrong with that, as such, but I asked Sjoerd, the original poster, about his use patterns. He actually didn't use the tipa encoding shortcuts (the mapping of characters directly to glyphs in the fonts, '@'), but rather the named glyphs (\textschwa). So I focussed on that at first.
Now that I have learned a lot about ConTeXt's character system and Unicode, I see a lot that I could have done differently. But then again, it's also not the worst foundation for doing further work. (Such as hooking it in with Unicode. I'd have to put the tip jar out in order to take that on in the near future, though!)
John, why the sudden interest in a 6-month old post?
adam
* Adam Lindsay atl@comp.lancs.ac.uk [Dec 01, 2004 16:40]:
Bernd, I'll forward the thing I've come up with off-list. It builds on the TIPA fonts in the LaTeX package.
This is a bit heretical I know but couldn't one just use a \font\foo=nameoffont at 12pt type statement?
Wow, this was a blast from the past.
Nothing wrong with that, as such, but I asked Sjoerd, the original poster, about his use patterns. He actually didn't use the tipa encoding shortcuts (the mapping of characters directly to glyphs in the fonts, '@'), but rather the named glyphs (\textschwa). So I focussed on that at first.
Now that I have learned a lot about ConTeXt's character system and Unicode, I see a lot that I could have done differently. But then again, it's also not the worst foundation for doing further work. (Such as hooking it in with Unicode. I'd have to put the tip jar out in order to take that on in the near future, though!)
John, why the sudden interest in a 6-month old post?
Em, I don't want to push this too hard, but I'd be interested in a Tipa work-alike (or something similar) for ConTeXt as well. I'd especially like the mapping part, rather than named glyphs, as it would make more sense in the "source" of the document, for me at least.
Thanks for taking an interest in this Adam, nikolai
Nikolai Weibull said this at Thu, 2 Dec 2004 15:16:54 +0100:
Em, I don't want to push this too hard, but I'd be interested in a Tipa work-alike (or something similar) for ConTeXt as well. I'd especially like the mapping part, rather than named glyphs, as it would make more sense in the "source" of the document, for me at least.
Well, the mapping with the tipa fonts is pretty easy: for the 64 or so most-used characters (alphanumeric++), Fukui-san put those characters where they're accessible with normal keyboarding. That is, get the font switch right, and you can type with the shorthand codes you know and like. (Ekspl@"neIS@n)
No, the tricky bit is getting into the diacritics, modifiers, and all those things. (eh, not all that tricky) And then there's the tedious bit of handling all those characters in unicode, then, ideally, creating an input regime for IPA to map to those named glyphs.
So it's a bunch of tedious work that's sometimes hard to get "just right" to do a proper job of it. But I'd say there's a 75%, workable solution in place.
adam
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