Hi all, first I wish a very happy new year to everybody! I think, this will be my last post for this year, but as i have tasted blood, the next year I will post a lot of further questions I think :-) Now I have Christmas holidays and can play the whole day with ConTeXt. I tested a little the export function. There is one thing I have on my wishlist: is it possible to get a <pagebreak/> into the exported XML? The background is that I have often the requirement to include pagebreak-info in online-productions (for citation reasons) and that could be a very good starting point. In fact, in the moment at the position where a pagebreak occurs, the space (if it occurs at a space) is eaten up. Minimal example: \setupbackend [export=yes] \starttext \startchapter [title=Tufte Example] \startparagraph \dorecurse{10}{\input tufte} \stopparagraph \stopchapter \stoptext At the break of pg 2 to pg 3 you will find lump,skip (without the space) in the exported file. Having the pagebreaks would be a great thing for me. Greetings Achim
On 31-12-2010 7:22, Achim Jander wrote:
Hi all, first I wish a very happy new year to everybody! I think, this will be my last post for this year, but as i have tasted blood, the next year I will post a lot of further questions I think :-) Now I have Christmas holidays and can play the whole day with ConTeXt. I tested a little the export function. There is one thing I have on my wishlist: is it possible to get a <pagebreak/> into the exported XML? The background is that I have often the requirement to include pagebreak-info in online-productions (for citation reasons) and that could be a very good starting point. In fact, in the moment at the position where a pagebreak occurs, the space (if it occurs at a space) is eaten up. Minimal example: \setupbackend [export=yes]
\starttext
\startchapter [title=Tufte Example]
\startparagraph \dorecurse{10}{\input tufte} \stopparagraph
\stopchapter
\stoptext
At the break of pg 2 to pg 3 you will find lump,skip (without the space) in the exported file. Having the pagebreaks would be a great thing for me.
I'll send you a small patch to play with. ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | voip: 087 875 68 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl -----------------------------------------------------------------
Am 02.01.2011 15:57, schrieb Hans Hagen:
On 31-12-2010 7:22, Achim Jander wrote:
is it possible to get a <pagebreak/> into the exported XML?
I'll send you a small patch to play wit
Hello Hans, many thanks! I've tested a bit and it seems to work great! Two little suggestions for improvement: - would it possible to switch both (spaces and pagebreak) to on? It seems that in the Moment only one of them can be enabled. - would it be possible to include the pagenumber as attribute? During my tests i found a strange behaviour of the export-function (not related to pagebreak-export). With certain combinations of \setupalign[hz,hanging] and body-font-size most of the text gets eaten: \setupbackend [export=yes] \enabledirectives[structures.export.pagebreaks] \definefontfeature[default][default][% expansion=quality, protrusion=quality, ] \setupbodyfont[rm,8.5pt] %\setupbodyfont[rm,11pt] %does not work either %\setupbodyfont[rm,12pt] %this is ok \definebodyfontenvironment[8.5pt][% text=8.5pt, script=8.5pt, scriptscript=6pt, x=6pt, xx=5pt, big=28pt, small=17.3pt] \setupalign[hz,hanging] %without everything ok \starttext \input tufte \stoptext that gives the export: <?xml version='1.0' standalone='yes' ?> <!-- input filename : xml_test_export --> <!-- processing date : 01/03/11 12:43:00 --> <!-- context version : 2010.12.31 08:59 --> <!-- exporter version : 0.10 --> <document language='en' file='xml_test_export' date='01/03/11 12:43:01' context='2010.12.31 08:59' version='0.10'> --fiflfiglean, synopsize, winnow the wheat from the chaff and separate the sheep from the goats. </document> Either switching the body-font-size to 12pt or disable the \align gives the full export as expected. Very confusing. Greetings, Achim
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On 3-1-2011 12:54, Achim Jander wrote:
- would it possible to switch both (spaces and pagebreak) to on? It seems that in the Moment only one of them can be enabled.
does not make much sense as </S0> equals </pagebreak> anyway (the default is a space)
- would it be possible to include the pagenumber as attribute?
maybe, keep in mind that we cannot really structure by page as elements can span page boundaries
During my tests i found a strange behaviour of the export-function (not related to pagebreak-export). With certain combinations of \setupalign[hz,hanging] and body-font-size most of the text gets eaten:
maybe some attributes gets lost in the hz machinery ... needs checking (in most cases doing a special export run makes sense, in which case some functionality can be turned off) Hans ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | voip: 087 875 68 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl -----------------------------------------------------------------
Am 03.01.2011 15:43, schrieb Hans Hagen:
On 3-1-2011 12:54, Achim Jander wrote:
- would it possible to switch both (spaces and pagebreak) to on? It seems that in the Moment only one of them can be enabled.
does not make much sense as </S0> equals </pagebreak> anyway (the default is a space)
Hi Hans, maybe i got something wrong, but in the given example I have now filter, lump,<pagebreak/>skip, My intent is, to convert the XML eg to EPUB and use the <pagebreak /> to give the desired Metadata. So it would be more convenient to have filter, lump, <pagebreak/>skip, but that could be also done in the postprocessing.
- would it be possible to include the pagenumber as attribute?
maybe, keep in mind that we cannot really structure by page as elements can span page boundaries
of course, its only a nice-to have, it could get calculated in the postprocessing
maybe some attributes gets lost in the hz machinery ... needs checking
(in most cases doing a special export run makes sense, in which case some functionality can be turned off)
yes, i see. In my case it is of interest to have the same breaking in that run, so i wonder if disabling the hz feature doesn't change the line-breaking ? Thanks, Achim
On 3-1-2011 4:11, Achim Jander wrote:
So it would be more convenient to have filter, lump, <pagebreak/>skip, but that could be also done in the postprocessing.
indeed this belongs to postprocessing (if only because there is no space at a pagebreak) .. similar would be: abc<linebreak/>def where is no linebreak is needed it can become a space)
yes, i see. In my case it is of interest to have the same breaking in that run, so i wonder if disabling the hz feature doesn't change the line-breaking ?
it does Hans ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | voip: 087 875 68 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl -----------------------------------------------------------------
Hi Hans, thanks again. At least the first tests of the new version give me the expected result. Great!! Achim Am 03.01.2011 16:19, schrieb Hans Hagen:
On 3-1-2011 4:11, Achim Jander wrote:
So it would be more convenient to have filter, lump, <pagebreak/>skip, but that could be also done in the postprocessing.
indeed this belongs to postprocessing (if only because there is no space at a pagebreak) .. similar would be: abc<linebreak/>def where is no linebreak is needed it can become a space)
yes, i see. In my case it is of interest to have the same breaking in that run, so i wonder if disabling the hz feature doesn't change the line-breaking ?
it does
Hans
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