Dear knights, There is apparently something wrong with the indenting mechanism in the latest context: I have to invoke indenting twice to cut it on (uncomment the second \setupindenting): ============================ % output=pdf interface=en \setupwhitespace[none] \setupindenting[medium,next] % does not indent %\setupindenting[medium,next] % need both to indent \definestartstop [quote] [before={\startnarrower[1*middle]\blank[big]}, after={\stopnarrower\blank[big]}] \starttext \input knuth \startquote \input knuth \stopquote \input knuth \stoptext ============================ log verifying version ============================= This is pdfeTeX, Version 3.141592-1.21a-2.2 (Web2c 7.5.3) (format=cont-en 2005.8.18) 18 AUG 2005 21:47 entering extended mode \write18 enabled. (c:\CONTEXT\tex\texmf-local/web2c/natural.tcx) **&cont-en testblank.tex (./testblank.tex ConTeXt ver: 2005.08.15 fmt: 2005.8.18 int: english mes: english ============================= Similarly, if I want a local exception to the indentation I need something like \start\setupindenting[none]\setupindenting[none] <paragraph> \stop Also, dropped capes does not work well when indentation is on, calling for the local exception above. Finally, \indenting and \noindenting don't work like they used to: bug or feature? I actually spent hours trying to debug a huge manuscript (with messed up now fixed indentation) before finally realizing and isolating the problem. Upgrading ConTeXt is always an adventure... Best Idris ============================ Professor Idris Samawi Hamid Department of Philosophy Colorado State University Fort Collins, CO 80523