On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 11:11 AM, Hans Hagen wrote:

On 16-5-2011 10:57, luigi scarso wrote:

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\showlayout \starttext \input knuth \stoptext

doesn't show the values in mkiv

\starttext \showlayout \input knuth \stoptext

It's ok (as also the Wolfgang replay) but this works \showframe \starttext \input knuth \stoptext so I expected the same for this \showlayout \starttext \input knuth \stoptext which looks more consistent. Of course this is ok \starttext \showframe \input knuth \stoptext but showing meta informations between \starttext \stoptext it's a bit strange. -- luigi

On 16-5-2011 11:30, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:

Am 16.05.2011 um 11:20 schrieb luigi scarso:

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but showing meta informations between \starttext \stoptext it's a bit strange.

it's not meta-info ... it's typeset content

When you’re use \startproduct or \startcomponent you’re always after \starttext.

The reason why nothing was shown in your example is that font loading is postponed till \starttext in mkiv.

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On 16-5-2011 11:53, luigi scarso wrote:

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On 16-5-2011 11:30, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:

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Am 16.05.2011 um 11:20 schrieb luigi scarso:

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but showing meta informations between \starttext \stoptext it's a bit strange.

it's not meta-info ... it's typeset content

On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 11:43 AM, Hans Hagen wrote: paperwidth, paperheight, bodyfontsize, the frames etc are meta-info of the document

yes, but they are *typeset* so we need to start the text first anyhow, the attached can make you happy i guesa ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | voip: 087 875 68 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl -----------------------------------------------------------------

On 16-5-2011 11:20, luigi scarso wrote:

On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 11:11 AM, Hans Hagen wrote:

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On 16-5-2011 10:57, luigi scarso wrote:

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\showlayout \starttext \input knuth \stoptext

doesn't show the values in mkiv

\starttext \showlayout \input knuth \stoptext

It's ok (as also the Wolfgang replay) but this works \showframe \starttext \input knuth \stoptext

so I expected the same for this \showlayout \starttext \input knuth \stoptext

which looks more consistent.

Of course this is ok \starttext \showframe \input knuth \stoptext

but showing meta informations between \starttext \stoptext it's a bit strange.

no, \showframe just is a setup command (it sets some borders) while showlayout generates 4 pages and generating content before \starttext is 'not done' ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | voip: 087 875 68 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl -----------------------------------------------------------------