Adobe Reader, PNG transparency and colors
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Hallo you all. I found a strange problem. I create my slides with ConTeXt. Everything was all right before I included pictures in PNG with transparent background. Adobe Reader 8.1.2 under Linux (at least this one) changes colors on every page where such a PNG is included. Xpdf shows it all right. I wonder what could be the reason, and how to solve it. Can you hint me? You can see the behavior here: http://www.econ.muni.cz/~qasar/vyuka/inst/inst-slide01.pdf Notice difference in colors between the 2nd and 3rd page (the 3rd one includes PNG). PNG are created with Gimp. My ConTeXt is ver: 2008.01.28 21:28 MKII pdfTeX is 3.141592-1.40.3 (Web2C 7.5.6) TeXExec is version 6.2.0 All under openSuSE Linux 10.3. When I start TeXExec, I got this warning: /usr/bin/texmfstart:1838: warning: Insecure world writable dir /home/qasar/bin in PATH, mode 040777 /usr/share/texmf/scripts/context/ruby/base/system.rb:16: warning: Insecure world writable dir /home/qasar/bin in PATH, mode 040777 But I guess it has nothing to do with the color problem. Many greetings to all of you, and thanks to those answering me. ;-) Have a nice day. M.K.
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On 20 feb 2008, at 10:11, Martin Schröder wrote:
2008/2/20, Michal Kvasnička
: pdfTeX is 3.141592-1.40.3 (Web2C 7.5.6)
Update your pdftex. It's a bug we fixed in 1.40.6.
Best Martin
I compiled 1.40.6 on MacOSX-10.5.2 and found that the pdf it generated was defective. Neither Adobe Reader nor TeXShop could read it. Reverting to a fresh compile of 1.40.5 remedied that. Could it be that the changes in 1.40.6 badly effect MacOSX users only? Hans van der Meer
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2008/2/20, Hans van der Meer
I compiled 1.40.6 on MacOSX-10.5.2 and found that the pdf it generated was defective. Neither Adobe Reader nor TeXShop could read it.
Try 1.40.7. :-)
Reverting to a fresh compile of 1.40.5 remedied that. Could it be that the changes in 1.40.6 badly effect MacOSX users only?
Maybe. 1.40.7 works for me on Linux. :-) Best Martin
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Martin, Happy message. The error occurring in pdftex 1.40.6 apparently has vanished in 1.40.7. Now pdf's are produced here on a simple testrun. Hans van der Meer On 20 feb 2008, at 13:03, Martin Schröder wrote:
2008/2/20, Hans van der Meer
: I compiled 1.40.6 on MacOSX-10.5.2 and found that the pdf it generated was defective. Neither Adobe Reader nor TeXShop could read it.
Try 1.40.7. :-)
Reverting to a fresh compile of 1.40.5 remedied that. Could it be that the changes in 1.40.6 badly effect MacOSX users only?
Maybe. 1.40.7 works for me on Linux. :-)
Best Martin
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Many thanks. Upgrade to 1.40.7 really solved my problem.
However, there seems to be one more strange thing (not that big): If I
include some transparent stuff on a light background (i.e. a metapost figure
on a light gray screen), there's a visible rectangle around it (on the
screen). Don't you what's the cause and how to solve it?
Many thans once more. And greetings to all.
M.
2008/2/20, Hans van der Meer
Martin,
Happy message. The error occurring in pdftex 1.40.6 apparently has vanished in 1.40.7. Now pdf's are produced here on a simple testrun.
Hans van der Meer
On 20 feb 2008, at 13:03, Martin Schröder wrote:
2008/2/20, Hans van der Meer
: I compiled 1.40.6 on MacOSX-10.5.2 and found that the pdf it generated was defective. Neither Adobe Reader nor TeXShop could read it.
Try 1.40.7. :-)
Reverting to a fresh compile of 1.40.5 remedied that. Could it be that the changes in 1.40.6 badly effect MacOSX users only?
Maybe. 1.40.7 works for me on Linux. :-)
Best Martin
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2008/2/20, Michal Kvasnička
However, there seems to be one more strange thing (not that big): If I include some transparent stuff on a light background (i.e. a metapost figure on a light gray screen), there's a visible rectangle around it (on the screen). Don't you what's the cause and how to solve it?
Probably a bug in Adobe Reader. We don't draw rectangles around included images. :-) Best Martin
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Am 2008-02-20 um 19:54 schrieb Martin Schröder:
However, there seems to be one more strange thing (not that big): If I include some transparent stuff on a light background (i.e. a metapost figure on a light gray screen), there's a visible rectangle around it (on the screen). Don't you what's the cause and how to solve it? Probably a bug in Adobe Reader. We don't draw rectangles around included images. :-)
Yes, it's unfortunately normal at least in Acrobat 7 and 8, also in Apple's PDF viewer (in Preview, Mail etc.). In my experience esp. transparent (or flattened) elements show a fine white border - but if you zoom in, it stays the same fine line or sometimes disappeares. And it never shows in print. Greetlings from Lake Constance! Hraban --- http://www.fiee.net/texnique/ http://wiki.contextgarden.net https://www.cacert.org (I'm an assurer)
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Many thanks for your answer.
If I include some transparent stuff on a light background (i.e. a
metapost figure on a light gray screen), there's a visible rectangle around it (on the screen).
Yes, it's unfortunately normal at least in Acrobat 7 and 8, also in
Apple's PDF viewer (in Preview, Mail etc.). In my experience esp. transparent (or flattened) elements show a fine white border - but if you zoom in, it stays the same fine line or sometimes disappeares. And it never shows in print.
However, what I meant was slightly different: not a tiny white line around but a solid (full) rectangle with light gray background. You can see it here: http://www.econ.muni.cz/~qasar/tmp/inst-slide02.pdf, page 3 (the ugly background in the figure on the page 2 is my fault). I guess the light gray background might be another bug in the AdobeReader, since it's not visible in xpdf. However, I thought so with the previous bug (it was visible in the AdobeReader, but not in the xpdf too), and it was actually a bug in the pdfTeX. Have you any idea what's wrong? (Well, this is much less annoying than the previous problem.) Many thanks and greeting from rainy Brno. Michal
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Michal Kvasnička wrote:
Many thanks for your answer.
If I include some transparent stuff on a light background (i.e. a
metapost figure on a light gray screen), there's a visible rectangle around it (on the screen). Yes, it's unfortunately normal at least in Acrobat 7 and 8, also in Apple's PDF viewer (in Preview, Mail etc.). In my experience esp. transparent (or flattened) elements show a fine white border - but if you zoom in, it stays the same fine line or sometimes disappeares. And it never shows in print.
However, what I meant was slightly different: not a tiny white line around but a solid (full) rectangle with light gray background. You can see it here: http://www.econ.muni.cz/~qasar/tmp/inst-slide02.pdf, page 3 (the ugly background in the figure on the page 2 is my fault).
isn't that alpha channel stuff? i never looked into that but your marx picture does not have the gray background .. maybe compare the internals of these graphics adn see what happens inside ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl -----------------------------------------------------------------
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Hans Hagen wrote:
However, what I meant was slightly different: not a tiny white line around but a solid (full) rectangle with light gray background. You can see it here: http://www.econ.muni.cz/~qasar/tmp/inst-slide02.pdf, page 3 (the ugly background in the figure on the page 2 is my fault).
I am looking at in in AR 7.0.8 on linux, and it looks fine, no weird artifacts at all. Best wishes, Taco
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Oops. You've seen my Marx pictures. I'm ashamed I was caught. :-( (Well, no,
I'm not a Marxist.) :-)
I think the alpha channel is not the cause, since I can see the light gray
rectangles under the MetaPost figures, not under PNG with transparency. I
don't know how precisely the transparency is done in the MetaPost, but I
guess there is no background under curves and shapes I draw in the MetaPost.
At least there is nothing visible in the figure on the page 10 of
http://www.econ.muni.cz/~qasar/tmp/inst-slide02.pdf. However, some
background is visible under all MetaPost figures on pages 3 to 6. The
background under the figures is different from the background around them.
Or don't you see it? Then it might be a problem just under some versions of
the AdobeReader, perhaps only under Linux.
Many thanks for your answers. Have a nice day.
Michal
2008/2/21, Hans Hagen
Michal Kvasnička wrote:
Many thanks for your answer.
If I include some transparent stuff on a light background (i.e. a
metapost figure on a light gray screen), there's a visible rectangle around it (on the screen). Yes, it's unfortunately normal at least in Acrobat 7 and 8, also in Apple's PDF viewer (in Preview, Mail etc.). In my experience esp. transparent (or flattened) elements show a fine white border - but if you zoom in, it stays the same fine line or sometimes disappeares. And it never shows in print.
However, what I meant was slightly different: not a tiny white line around but a solid (full) rectangle with light gray background. You can see it here: http://www.econ.muni.cz/~qasar/tmp/inst-slide02.pdf, page 3 (the ugly background in the figure on the page 2 is my fault).
isn't that alpha channel stuff? i never looked into that but your marx picture does not have the gray background .. maybe compare the internals of these graphics adn see what happens inside
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Michal Kvasnička wrote:
Oops. You've seen my Marx pictures. I'm ashamed I was caught. :-( (Well, no, I'm not a Marxist.) :-)
well, there is nothing wrong with being a marxist; it's the implementation that matters / makes the difference -) Hans ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl -----------------------------------------------------------------
participants (6)
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Hans Hagen
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Hans van der Meer
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Henning Hraban Ramm
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Martin Schröder
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Michal Kvasnička
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Taco Hoekwater