Dear all, Two quick questions regarding footnotes and Arabic: 1. How do I get a footnote rule/marker to go from right-to-left (i.e. to begin at the right margin instead of the left margin)? 2. I would like some of my footnote streams to run RtL for Arabic, and also for those footnotes to be in paragraph form (i.e. \setupnote[afootnote][paragraph=yes] ). But when I add this command, my footnote instead runs LtR, the letters get cut up (i.e. the Arabic script is not connected), and I lose my footnote marker to add insult to injury. How should I define a footnote stream to run RtL in paragraph form? Many thanks in advance. Kind regards, Talal p.s. Below is my attempt thus far, with the problem of defining paragraph=yes, and with the problem of the footnote rule/marker. Reference to what I should change in this example would be most helpful: ========================== %%% SETUP AREA %% PAGE SETUP \setuppapersize[A4][A4] \setuplayout[grid=on] \showgrid \setupinterlinespace[line=3.8ex] \setupindenting[yes,big] %% FONTS \usemodule[simplefonts] \setupsimplefonts[size=12pt] \definefontfeature[default] [default] [mode=node,script=arabic] \setmainfontfallback[Lotus Linotype] [scale=1.33,features=arabic,range={arabic,arabicsupplement}] %% PARAGRAPH DIRECTION & SPACING - ARABIC - ENGLISH \def\arabpar {\textdir TRT\pardir TRT} \automigrateinserts % to ensure that certain levels of footnotes show up (raw MKIV feature) %% FOOTNOTES \setupfootnotedefinition[location=serried] \definenote[afootnote][conversion=set 2] \setupnote[afootnote][paragraph=yes] %%% TEXT \starttext \input knuth \startbaselinecorrection\setupinterlinespace[line=5ex] \arabpar{ هذه رسالة جامعة مانعة ألفه الشيخ الفاضل النحرير هذه رسالة جامعة مانعة ألفه الشيخ الفاضل النحرير هذه رسالة جامعة مانعة ألفه الشيخ الفاضل النحرير هذه رسالة جامعة مانعة ألفه الشيخ الفاضل النحرير هذه رسالة جامعة مانعة ألفه الشيخ الفاضل النحرير هذه رسالة جامعة مانعة ألفه الشيخ الفاضل النحرير \afootnote{هذه فوتنوت.} هذه رسالة جامعة مانعة ألفه الشيخ ألفه الشيخ الفاضل النحرير هذه رسالة جامعة مانعة ألفه الشيخ الفاضل النحرير هذه رسالة جامعة مانعة ألفه الشيخ الفاضل النحرير هذه رسالة جامعة مانعة ألفه الشيخ الفاضل النحرير هذه رسالة جامعة مانعة } \stopbaselinecorrection Thus, I came to the conclusion that the designer\footnote{Such as Knuth himself.} of a new system must not only be the implementer and first large--scale user; the designer should also write the first user manual. The separation of any of these four components would have hurt TEX significantly. \stoptext ==========================
Am 05.10.2010 um 14:48 schrieb Talal Al-Azem:
Dear all,
Two quick questions regarding footnotes and Arabic:
1. How do I get a footnote rule/marker to go from right-to-left (i.e. to begin at the right margin instead of the left margin)?
2. I would like some of my footnote streams to run RtL for Arabic, and also for those footnotes to be in paragraph form (i.e. \setupnote[afootnote][paragraph=yes] ). But when I add this command, my footnote instead runs LtR, the letters get cut up (i.e. the Arabic script is not connected), and I lose my footnote marker to add insult to injury. How should I define a footnote stream to run RtL in paragraph form?
Many thanks in advance.
Kind regards, Talal
p.s. Below is my attempt thus far, with the problem of defining paragraph=yes, and with the problem of the footnote rule/marker. Reference to what I should change in this example would be most helpful:
==========================
%%% SETUP AREA
%% PAGE SETUP \setuppapersize[A4][A4] \setuplayout[grid=on] \showgrid \setupinterlinespace[line=3.8ex] \setupindenting[yes,big]
%% FONTS \usemodule[simplefonts] \setupsimplefonts[size=12pt] \definefontfeature[default] [default] [mode=node,script=arabic]
\definefontfeature[arabic][default][mode=node,script=arabic]
\setmainfontfallback[Lotus Linotype] [scale=1.33,features=arabic,range={arabic,arabicsupplement}]
%% PARAGRAPH DIRECTION & SPACING - ARABIC - ENGLISH \def\arabpar {\textdir TRT\pardir TRT} \automigrateinserts % to ensure that certain levels of footnotes show up (raw MKIV feature)
%% FOOTNOTES \setupfootnotedefinition[location=serried]
\definenote[afootnote][conversion=set 2] \setupnote[afootnote][paragraph=yes]
\definenote[afootnote][numberconversion=set 2,paragraph=yes,rule=right,align=r2l] \setupnotedefinition[afootnote][location=serried,display=no]
%%% TEXT \starttext
\input knuth
\startbaselinecorrection\setupinterlinespace[line=5ex] \arabpar{ هذه رسالة جامعة مانعة ألفه الشيخ الفاضل النحرير هذه رسالة جامعة مانعة ألفه الشيخ الفاضل النحرير هذه رسالة جامعة مانعة ألفه الشيخ الفاضل النحرير هذه رسالة جامعة مانعة ألفه الشيخ الفاضل النحرير هذه رسالة جامعة مانعة ألفه الشيخ الفاضل النحرير هذه رسالة جامعة مانعة ألفه الشيخ الفاضل النحرير \afootnote{هذه فوتنوت.} هذه رسالة جامعة مانعة ألفه الشيخ ألفه الشيخ الفاضل النحرير هذه رسالة جامعة مانعة ألفه الشيخ الفاضل النحرير هذه رسالة جامعة مانعة ألفه الشيخ الفاضل النحرير هذه رسالة جامعة مانعة ألفه الشيخ الفاضل النحرير هذه رسالة جامعة مانعة } \stopbaselinecorrection
\startbaselinecorrection\setupinterlinespace[line=5ex]\arabpar هذه رسالة جامعة مانعة ألفه الشيخ الفاضل النحرير هذه رسالة جامعة مانعة ألفه الشيخ الفاضل النحرير هذه رسالة جامعة مانعة ألفه الشيخ الفاضل النحرير هذه رسالة جامعة مانعة ألفه الشيخ الفاضل النحرير هذه رسالة جامعة مانعة ألفه الشيخ الفاضل النحرير هذه رسالة جامعة مانعة ألفه الشيخ الفاضل النحرير \afootnote{هذه فوتنوت.} هذه رسالة جامعة مانعة ألفه الشيخ ألفه الشيخ الفاضل النحرير هذه رسالة جامعة مانعة ألفه الشيخ الفاضل النحرير هذه رسالة جامعة مانعة ألفه الشيخ الفاضل النحرير هذه رسالة جامعة مانعة ألفه الشيخ الفاضل النحرير هذه رسالة جامعة مانعة \stopbaselinecorrection To make this block simpler you can write your own environment for it: \definestartstop [arabic] [before={\startbaselinecorrection\setupinterlinespace[line=5ex]\arabpar}, after=\stopbaselinecorrection] \startarabic هذه رسالة جامعة مانعة ألفه الشيخ الفاضل النحرير هذه رسالة جامعة مانعة ألفه الشيخ الفاضل النحرير هذه رسالة جامعة مانعة ألفه الشيخ الفاضل النحرير هذه رسالة جامعة مانعة ألفه الشيخ الفاضل النحرير هذه رسالة جامعة مانعة ألفه الشيخ الفاضل النحرير هذه رسالة جامعة مانعة ألفه الشيخ الفاضل النحرير \afootnote{هذه فوتنوت.} هذه رسالة جامعة مانعة ألفه الشيخ ألفه الشيخ الفاضل النحرير هذه رسالة جامعة مانعة ألفه الشيخ الفاضل النحرير هذه رسالة جامعة مانعة ألفه الشيخ الفاضل النحرير هذه رسالة جامعة مانعة ألفه الشيخ الفاضل النحرير هذه رسالة جامعة مانعة \stoparabic Wolfgang
Thanks Wolfgang. That makes that matter clearer. But how do I get those Arabic footnotes to be right aligned as well? May I also ask: what is the purpose, at least in my example that I'm learning from, of: \definefontfeature[arabic][default][mode=node,script=arabic] ? I ask, because when I switched it from [default][default] to [arabic][default] as you suggested, the Arabic glyphs no longer connected, and the text actually spilled over into the footnote space. When I commented it out, the glyphs connected again. Finally, so that I can start learning on my own without bothering you and everyone else on the list, where would I have systematically found a discussion of RtL feaures such as rule=right? Or are there any preexisting example files of complicated Arabic that I could study and learn from? Kind regards, Talal p.s. Thanks for the \definestartstop environment. As you can see, I'm still learning the basics of ConTeXt. :-) On 5 Oct 2010, at 14:28, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
Am 05.10.2010 um 14:48 schrieb Talal Al-Azem:
Dear all,
Two quick questions regarding footnotes and Arabic:
1. How do I get a footnote rule/marker to go from right-to-left (i.e. to begin at the right margin instead of the left margin)?
2. I would like some of my footnote streams to run RtL for Arabic, and also for those footnotes to be in paragraph form (i.e. \setupnote[afootnote][paragraph=yes] ). But when I add this command, my footnote instead runs LtR, the letters get cut up (i.e. the Arabic script is not connected), and I lose my footnote marker to add insult to injury. How should I define a footnote stream to run RtL in paragraph form?
Many thanks in advance.
Kind regards, Talal
p.s. Below is my attempt thus far, with the problem of defining paragraph=yes, and with the problem of the footnote rule/marker. Reference to what I should change in this example would be most helpful:
==========================
%%% SETUP AREA
%% PAGE SETUP \setuppapersize[A4][A4] \setuplayout[grid=on] \showgrid \setupinterlinespace[line=3.8ex] \setupindenting[yes,big]
%% FONTS \usemodule[simplefonts] \setupsimplefonts[size=12pt] \definefontfeature[default] [default] [mode=node,script=arabic]
\definefontfeature[arabic][default][mode=node,script=arabic]
\setmainfontfallback[Lotus Linotype] [scale=1.33,features=arabic,range={arabic,arabicsupplement}]
%% PARAGRAPH DIRECTION & SPACING - ARABIC - ENGLISH \def\arabpar {\textdir TRT\pardir TRT} \automigrateinserts % to ensure that certain levels of footnotes show up (raw MKIV feature)
%% FOOTNOTES \setupfootnotedefinition[location=serried]
\definenote[afootnote][conversion=set 2] \setupnote[afootnote][paragraph=yes]
\definenote[afootnote][numberconversion=set 2,paragraph=yes,rule=right,align=r2l] \setupnotedefinition[afootnote][location=serried,display=no]
%%% TEXT \starttext
\input knuth
\startbaselinecorrection\setupinterlinespace[line=5ex] \arabpar{ هذه رسالة جامعة مانعة ألفه الشيخ الفاضل النحرير هذه رسالة جامعة مانعة ألفه الشيخ الفاضل النحرير هذه رسالة جامعة مانعة ألفه الشيخ الفاضل النحرير هذه رسالة جامعة مانعة ألفه الشيخ الفاضل النحرير هذه رسالة جامعة مانعة ألفه الشيخ الفاضل النحرير هذه رسالة جامعة مانعة ألفه الشيخ الفاضل النحرير \afootnote{هذه فوتنوت.} هذه رسالة جامعة مانعة ألفه الشيخ ألفه الشيخ الفاضل النحرير هذه رسالة جامعة مانعة ألفه الشيخ الفاضل النحرير هذه رسالة جامعة مانعة ألفه الشيخ الفاضل النحرير هذه رسالة جامعة مانعة ألفه الشيخ الفاضل النحرير هذه رسالة جامعة مانعة } \stopbaselinecorrection
\startbaselinecorrection\setupinterlinespace[line=5ex]\arabpar هذه رسالة جامعة مانعة ألفه الشيخ الفاضل النحرير هذه رسالة جامعة مانعة ألفه الشيخ الفاضل النحرير هذه رسالة جامعة مانعة ألفه الشيخ الفاضل النحرير هذه رسالة جامعة مانعة ألفه الشيخ الفاضل النحرير هذه رسالة جامعة مانعة ألفه الشيخ الفاضل النحرير هذه رسالة جامعة مانعة ألفه الشيخ الفاضل النحرير \afootnote{هذه فوتنوت.} هذه رسالة جامعة مانعة ألفه الشيخ ألفه الشيخ الفاضل النحرير هذه رسالة جامعة مانعة ألفه الشيخ الفاضل النحرير هذه رسالة جامعة مانعة ألفه الشيخ الفاضل النحرير هذه رسالة جامعة مانعة ألفه الشيخ الفاضل النحرير هذه رسالة جامعة مانعة \stopbaselinecorrection
To make this block simpler you can write your own environment for it:
\definestartstop [arabic] [before={\startbaselinecorrection\setupinterlinespace[line=5ex]\arabpar}, after=\stopbaselinecorrection]
\startarabic هذه رسالة جامعة مانعة ألفه الشيخ الفاضل النحرير هذه رسالة جامعة مانعة ألفه الشيخ الفاضل النحرير هذه رسالة جامعة مانعة ألفه الشيخ الفاضل النحرير هذه رسالة جامعة مانعة ألفه الشيخ الفاضل النحرير هذه رسالة جامعة مانعة ألفه الشيخ الفاضل النحرير هذه رسالة جامعة مانعة ألفه الشيخ الفاضل النحرير \afootnote{هذه فوتنوت.} هذه رسالة جامعة مانعة ألفه الشيخ ألفه الشيخ الفاضل النحرير هذه رسالة جامعة مانعة ألفه الشيخ الفاضل النحرير هذه رسالة جامعة مانعة ألفه الشيخ الفاضل النحرير هذه رسالة جامعة مانعة ألفه الشيخ الفاضل النحرير هذه رسالة جامعة مانعة \stoparabic
Wolfgang
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On Tue, Oct 05, 2010 at 03:18:31PM +0100, Talal Al-Azem wrote:
Thanks Wolfgang. That makes that matter clearer. But how do I get those Arabic footnotes to be right aligned as well?
May I also ask: what is the purpose, at least in my example that I'm learning from, of: \definefontfeature[arabic][default][mode=node,script=arabic] ?
The first argument is the name of the new feature set, the second is an optional feature set to be inherited. Actually, ConTeXt already has a predefined "arabic" feature and you can just use it. Regards, Khaled -- Khaled Hosny Arabic localiser and member of Arabeyes.org team Free font developer
Am 05.10.2010 um 16:18 schrieb Talal Al-Azem:
Thanks Wolfgang. That makes that matter clearer. But how do I get those Arabic footnotes to be right aligned as well?
\definenote[afootnote][numberconversion=set 2,paragraph=yes,rule=right,align={flushright,righttoleft}]
May I also ask: what is the purpose, at least in my example that I'm learning from, of: \definefontfeature[arabic][default][mode=node,script=arabic] ?
I ask, because when I switched it from [default][default] to [arabic][default] as you suggested, the Arabic glyphs no longer connected, and the text actually spilled over into the footnote space. When I commented it out, the glyphs connected again.
With my setting you create a new font feature ”arabic” which inherits the setting from the ”default” features with the extra settings “mode=node” and ”script=arabic” while your settings extends the ”default” features with these values. I did this because you use the ”arabic” font feature in the \definemainfontfallback setup but i forgot that context already has a “arabic” feature which enables a lot of font options which you need.
Finally, so that I can start learning on my own without bothering you and everyone else on the list, where would I have systematically found a discussion of RtL feaures such as rule=right?
Maybe in the list archive but often such things are discussed offline, i found it myself in the source.
Or are there any preexisting example files of complicated Arabic that I could study and learn from?
I guess the wiki page you already know is currently the only source. Wolfgang
Wolfgang, thank you once again. One last problem, if I may.
Thanks Wolfgang. That makes that matter clearer. But how do I get those Arabic footnotes to be right aligned as well?
\definenote[afootnote][numberconversion=set 2,paragraph=yes,rule=right,align={flushright,righttoleft}]
After replacing your "rightoleft" above with your earlier r2l (the former didn't work, the latter did), this indeed did cause the footnote block to move to the right margin. However, the note 1 is still on the far left, note 2 in the middle, and note 3 on the far right, instead of the other way around (note 1 on far right, note 2 in middle, note 3 on the far left), which is the logical ordering since we are reading right to left. (See attached pdf example, compare the order of the footnotes in the paragraph to the order *from right-to-left* in the footnote area.)
May I also ask: what is the purpose, at least in my example that I'm learning from, of: \definefontfeature[arabic][default][mode=node,script=arabic] ?
I ask, because when I switched it from [default][default] to [arabic][default] as you suggested, the Arabic glyphs no longer connected, and the text actually spilled over into the footnote space. When I commented it out, the glyphs connected again.
With my setting you create a new font feature ”arabic” which inherits the setting from the ”default” features with the extra settings “mode=node” and ”script=arabic” while your settings extends the ”default” features with these values. I did this because you use the ”arabic” font feature in the \definemainfontfallback setup but i forgot that context already has a “arabic” feature which enables a lot of font options which you need.
So, in light of what you and Khaled have mentioned, I suppose I can remove that line, and simply use: \setmainfontfallback[Lotus Linotype][scale=1.33,features=arabic,range={arabic,arabicpresentationformsa,arabicpresentationformsb,arabicsupplement}]
Finally, so that I can start learning on my own without bothering you and everyone else on the list, where would I have systematically found a discussion of RtL feaures such as rule=right?
Maybe in the list archive but often such things are discussed offline, i found it myself in the source.
Scouring the source is rather intimidating at this stage. I guess that at least partially justifies my sending questions on here, since I haven't seen r2l mentioned anywhere else at all. ;-)
Or are there any preexisting example files of complicated Arabic that I could study and learn from? I guess the wiki page you already know is currently the only source.
Yes, I'm looking for more real-world, detailed examples, to study and mould my own document off of. In any case, once I'm more self-confident, maybe I can do my bit and add some of this info onto the wiki. Thank you for all of your time and help. Kind regards, Talal
On 5-10-2010 5:07, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
Finally, so that I can start learning on my own without bothering you and everyone else on the list, where would I have systematically found a discussion of RtL feaures such as rule=right?
Maybe in the list archive but often such things are discussed offline, i found it myself in the source.
Or are there any preexisting example files of complicated Arabic that I could study and learn from?
I guess the wiki page you already know is currently the only source.
just a remark in addition to WS: all bidi related code is under construction, that is, we're trying to figure out a decent (useable) model for complex mixed direction documents we implement this stepwise looking at each structure element and decide what is needed, so best is just to notice what needs to be done and discuss it apart from lefttoright/righttoleft we also need to deal with consistent positioning as we need to make manuals in due time we started with verbatim (there will be several bidi models available; maybe Idris can send you the draft on bidi) anyhow, here's some more: in addition to align options we also will have locations reflecting the direction: \definefont[MyMono][file:dejavusansmono sa 1] \setuptyping [style=\MyMono,numbering=line,start=1,step=1] \definetyping [RLtyping] [align=r2l] \definetyping [LRtyping] [align=l2r] \starttext \startbuffer[sample] \startLRtyping At the left! أهلا \stopLRtyping \startRLtyping At the right! أهلا \stopRLtyping \startalignment[l2r] \starttyping At the left! أهلا \stoptyping \stopalignment \startalignment[r2l] \starttyping At the right! أهلا \stoptyping \stopalignment \stopbuffer \typebuffer[sample] \page \startbuffer[settings] \setuplinenumbering[typing][location=left] \stopbuffer \typebuffer[settings] \getbuffer[settings,sample] \page \startbuffer[settings] \setuplinenumbering[typing][location=right] \stopbuffer \typebuffer[settings] \getbuffer[settings,sample] \page \startbuffer[settings] \setuplinenumbering[typing][location=begin] \stopbuffer \typebuffer[settings] \getbuffer[settings,sample] \page \startbuffer[settings] \setuplinenumbering[typing][location=end] \stopbuffer \typebuffer[settings] \getbuffer[settings,sample] \page \stoptext ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | voip: 087 875 68 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl -----------------------------------------------------------------
Hans, running your example through (what I think is) the latest beta, does not produce any Arabic in the PDF, if that was intended. I've attached the PDF. Kind regards, Talal On 5 Oct 2010, at 16:25, Hans Hagen wrote:
On 5-10-2010 5:07, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
Finally, so that I can start learning on my own without bothering you and everyone else on the list, where would I have systematically found a discussion of RtL feaures such as rule=right?
Maybe in the list archive but often such things are discussed offline, i found it myself in the source.
Or are there any preexisting example files of complicated Arabic that I could study and learn from?
I guess the wiki page you already know is currently the only source.
just a remark in addition to WS:
all bidi related code is under construction, that is, we're trying to figure out a decent (useable) model for complex mixed direction documents
we implement this stepwise looking at each structure element and decide what is needed, so best is just to notice what needs to be done and discuss it
apart from lefttoright/righttoleft we also need to deal with consistent positioning
as we need to make manuals in due time we started with verbatim (there will be several bidi models available; maybe Idris can send you the draft on bidi)
anyhow, here's some more: in addition to align options we also will have locations reflecting the direction:
\definefont[MyMono][file:dejavusansmono sa 1]
\setuptyping [style=\MyMono,numbering=line,start=1,step=1] \definetyping [RLtyping] [align=r2l] \definetyping [LRtyping] [align=l2r]
\starttext
\startbuffer[sample] \startLRtyping At the left! أهلا \stopLRtyping
\startRLtyping At the right! أهلا \stopRLtyping
\startalignment[l2r] \starttyping At the left! أهلا \stoptyping \stopalignment
\startalignment[r2l] \starttyping At the right! أهلا \stoptyping \stopalignment \stopbuffer
\typebuffer[sample] \page
\startbuffer[settings] \setuplinenumbering[typing][location=left] \stopbuffer
\typebuffer[settings] \getbuffer[settings,sample] \page
\startbuffer[settings] \setuplinenumbering[typing][location=right] \stopbuffer
\typebuffer[settings] \getbuffer[settings,sample] \page
\startbuffer[settings] \setuplinenumbering[typing][location=begin] \stopbuffer
\typebuffer[settings] \getbuffer[settings,sample] \page
\startbuffer[settings] \setuplinenumbering[typing][location=end] \stopbuffer
\typebuffer[settings] \getbuffer[settings,sample] \page
\stoptext
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On 5-10-2010 5:55, Talal Al-Azem wrote:
Hans, running your example through (what I think is) the latest beta, does not produce any Arabic in the PDF, if that was intended. I've attached the PDF.
do you have the font used (dejavu) ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | voip: 087 875 68 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl -----------------------------------------------------------------
On 5-10-2010 3:28, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
Dear all,
Two quick questions regarding footnotes and Arabic:
1. How do I get a footnote rule/marker to go from right-to-left (i.e. to begin at the right margin instead of the left margin)?
2. I would like some of my footnote streams to run RtL for Arabic, and also for those footnotes to be in paragraph form (i.e. \setupnote[afootnote][paragraph=yes] ). But when I add this command, my footnote instead runs LtR, the letters get cut up (i.e. the Arabic script is not connected), and I lose my footnote marker to add insult to injury. How should I define a footnote stream to run RtL in paragraph form?
\starttext \showframe \definenote[afootnote][numberconversion=set 2,paragraph=yes,rule=right,align=r2l] \setupdescriptions[afootnote][display=no,location=serried,distance=.5em] \startalignment[l2r] test \footnote{\input ward } test \afootnote{\input ward } \input tufte \stopalignment \startalignment[r2l] test \footnote{\input ward \par} test \afootnote{\input ward \par } \input tufte \stopalignment \stoptext I have no clue what you want/need/. Keep in mind that paragraph footnotes are quite tricky (at least currently, maybe I can cook up a more robust solution using lua). Hans ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | voip: 087 875 68 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl -----------------------------------------------------------------
Hello Hans,
I have no clue what you want/need/.
Take a look at the files attached. In the text: 1. The first afootnote is: * Hickory dickory dock. 2. The second afootnote is: † The mouse ran up the clock. 3. The third afootnote is: ‡ The clock struck one the mouse fell down. Now, in the apparatus: the order should be the same, but from right to left. So, reading from the right-to-left in the apparatus, it should read: .nwod llef esuom eht eno kcurts kcolc ehT ‡ .kcolc eht pu nar esuom ehT † .kcod yrokcid yrokciH ∗ Which is the opposite of how it reads now. This is important for critical editions in Arabic (or other RtL languages) in which we are going to be dealing with the lemmas and variants. Does this make it a bit clearer? Kind regards, Talal
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