Will comply. Thanks Olivier On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 2:55 PM, Olivier Guéry wrote:

On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 12:18 PM, Alan Stone wrote:

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In a document where

\mainlanguage[fr]

some words weren't hyphenated correctly so I've put them in a hyphenation pattern

\hyphenation{ ap-pa-ren-ce at-ten-dai-ent com-men-cent d'am-bi-tion d'in-flu-en-ce l'ap-pa-ren-ce }

I remember reading that in correct french typo we are not supposed to hypenate before the last « syllable ». If you have no choice, having only two letter is realy « bad ». Olivier.

We realy need to work on a wiki page with all these french rules. Once created I could ask some real typographist to help us (I hop they do help us…). Having the Artur's Rules for spacing would be a good start point. Olivier. On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 3:14 PM, Alan Stone wrote:

Hmmm... that means there are a * lot * more words to add to the hyphenation pattern declaration.

How do you instruct (Con)TeX(t) to "not hypenate before the last « syllable »" ?

Alan

On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 3:02 PM, Alan Stone wrote:

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Will comply.

Thanks Olivier

On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 2:55 PM, Olivier Guéry wrote:

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I remember reading that in correct french typo we are not supposed to hypenate before the last « syllable ». If you have no choice, having only two letter is realy « bad ». Olivier.

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On Thu, Jun 26, 2008 at 12:29 PM, Alan Stone wrote:

For your information...

http://www.talo.nl/talo/download/documents/Language_Book.pdf

There's a whole chapter on hyphenation rules for the European languages.

A magnificent reference! At least for Slovenian it's using the deprecated language name, mentioning the wrong set of special characters used, digraphs that don't even exist, at two different places mentioning a different set of digraphs, but neither exist (forgiving them the fact how horrible these are represented graphically), giving examples of hyphenated words that don't even exist in the language (not to say that they cannot even be spoken out), listing a miserably incomplete set of rules. Mentioning a reference that is not even included in the References at the end of document. Wow! I really wonder how they have managed to mix up all that. I hope that they are not selling that to anyone. Mojca

Unfortunately, these chaps haven't read their Duden Band 1, Die Deutsche Rechtschreibung. I checked their examples against it and they are quite in error at times. That makes it notoriously difficult to figure out the proper from the improper. So they theoretically could have a good product and asked someone to go cheap on producing the PDF. Goodness knows, you wouldn't believe how many PhD's put their names on stuff that their research beetles really wrote. Still, it reflects poorly and hurts their business. I'd say that if they don't have their act together, let the free market sort it out. I can hyphenate all sorts of languages in Ubuntu just fine. Charles On Thu, 2008-06-26 at 12:29 +0200, Alan Stone wrote:

For your information...

http://www.talo.nl/talo/download/documents/Language_Book.pdf

There's a whole chapter on hyphenation rules for the European languages.

Best, Alan

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I remember reading that in correct french typo we are not supposed to hypenate before the last « syllable ». If you have no choice, having only two letter is realy « bad ». Olivier.

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