Hello All: There are quite a few fonts available in Latex with matching math fonts. The way a user like me who understands nothing about fonts can use them is to simply load a package. For example, for charter I can simply use the command \usepackage[charter]{mathdesign} Or, to use Palatino for text and some maching math fonts, I can use the command \usepackage{mathpazo} Are there fonts in Context with matching Math fonts other than Computer modern that can be used in an as simple manner,i.e., by just issuing few commands. If yes, can you please guide me to a resource which lists at least some of these fonts (again they should have matching math fonts) and the simple commands necessary to load them. I would find that really helpful Thanks very much.
just a small example:
\usetypescript[palatino]
\setupbodyfont[palatino,rm,12pt]
Hello
\startformula
\int_a^b f(x)\,{\rm d} x
\stopformula
\bye
On Tue, Jan 13, 2009 at 4:17 AM, Curious
Hello All:
There are quite a few fonts available in Latex with matching math fonts. The way a user like me who understands nothing about fonts can use them is to simply load a package. For example, for charter I can simply use the command
\usepackage[charter]{mathdesign}
Or, to use Palatino for text and some maching math fonts, I can use the command
\usepackage{mathpazo}
Are there fonts in Context with matching Math fonts other than Computer modern that can be used in an as simple manner,i.e., by just issuing few commands. If yes, can you please guide me to a resource which lists at least some of these fonts (again they should have matching math fonts) and the simple commands necessary to load them. I would find that really helpful
Thanks very much.
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On Tue, 13 Jan 2009, Yue Wang wrote:
just a small example:
\usetypescript[palatino] \setupbodyfont[palatino,rm,12pt] Hello \startformula \int_a^b f(x)\,{\rm d} x \stopformula \bye
For times \usetypescript[times] \setupbodyfont[times] For Antykwa-torunska \usetypescript[antykwa-torunska] \setupbodyfont[antykwa] For iwona \usetypescript[iwona] \setupbodyfont[iwona] There is also support for fourier, euler, and kurier, but no you have to invoke them explicitly, useing \definetypeface. Mojca, why is there no built in typescirpt for kurier in type-otf? Aditya
There is also support for fourier, euler, and kurier, but no you have to invoke them explicitly, useing \definetypeface.
Is there really support for fourier? I've not been able to get it working since long time ago. I get utopia text working, but not fourier math. See the previous threads: http://archive.contextgarden.net/message/20070830.154143.005528b8.en.html and http://archive.contextgarden.net/message/20080928.193441.874bb515.en.html If there is anything I can do, please tell me. /Mikael
On Tue, Jan 13, 2009 at 7:10 AM, Aditya Mahajan wrote:
Mojca, why is there no built in typescirpt for kurier in type-otf?
Not so long ago Hans sent "ok, just figure it out with wolfgang and send me what is needed" to the mailing list ([NTG-context] kurier font?) and then I went for unexpected holidays without computer twice since then. We just need to revise the three files (type-[one,otf,tmf]) and send them to Hans - feel free to jump in. Mojca
On Tue, Jan 13, 2009 at 5:17 AM, Curious wrote:
Hello All:
There are quite a few fonts available in Latex with matching math fonts. The way a user like me who understands nothing about fonts can use them is to simply load a package. For example, for charter I can simply use the command
\usepackage[charter]{mathdesign}
Aditya has just suggested to create a bunch of definitions equal to those in mathdesign. Mathdesign include three typefaces that have not been implemented in ConTeXt yet, and I agree that they could (should) be.
Or, to use Palatino for text and some maching math fonts, I can use the command
\usepackage{mathpazo}
ConTeXt currently has no support for mathpazo (one can always write it), but it uses pxfonts. I don't know if that's better or worse, but at least it works out of the box.
Are there fonts in Context with matching Math fonts other than Computer modern that can be used in an as simple manner,i.e., by just issuing few commands.
As others have already written: - "Palatino", "Times" (TeX Gyre, actually) - Lucida (if you have the fonts) - Iwona, Kurier, Antykwa Torunska - Euler, Fourier, Concrete Math - never tried it myself
If yes, can you please guide me to a resource which lists at least some of these fonts (again they should have matching math fonts) and the simple commands necessary to load them. I would find that really helpful
For palatino, times, iwona, kurier (not yet, but should be fixed), antykwa-torunska, see Yue's and Aditya's answer. In Unicode (xetex, luatex) you should use \usetpescript[name] \setupbodyfont[name,sizeorstyleifneeded] and in pdfTeX you need \usetpescript[name][ec] \setupbodyfont[name,sizeorstyleifneeded] You can take a look at type-tmf.tex, type-one.tex, type-otf.tex and math-*.tex in ConTeXt sources. Mojca
Mojca Miklavec wrote:
Aditya has just suggested to create a bunch of definitions equal to those in mathdesign. Mathdesign include three typefaces that have not been implemented in ConTeXt yet, and I agree that they could (should) be.
keep in mind that this will only work for mkii (unless the default tex encoding is used); mkiv will operate in unicode math mode and if we want to support older math fonts there we should make a setup for virtual unicode math fonts (no big deal but i have no time for it now)
Or, to use Palatino for text and some maching math fonts, I can use the command
\usepackage{mathpazo}
ConTeXt currently has no support for mathpazo (one can always write it), but it uses pxfonts. I don't know if that's better or worse, but at least it works out of the box.
so what is the advantage over what we have then? currently we use px too and eventuallt it will be replaced by gyre
- Euler, Fourier, Concrete Math - never tried it myself
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Mojca Miklavec
Aditya has just suggested to create a bunch of definitions equal to those in mathdesign. Mathdesign include three typefaces that have not been implemented in ConTeXt yet, and I agree that they could (should) be.
ConTeXt currently has no support for mathpazo (one can always write it), but it uses pxfonts. I don't know if that's better or worse, but at least it works out of the box.
As others have already written: - "Palatino", "Times" (TeX Gyre, actually) - Lucida (if you have the fonts) - Iwona, Kurier, Antykwa Torunska - Euler, Fourier, Concrete Math - never tried it myself
For palatino, times, iwona, kurier (not yet, but should be fixed), antykwa-torunska, see Yue's and Aditya's answer. In Unicode (xetex, luatex) you should use \usetpescript[name] \setupbodyfont[name,sizeorstyleifneeded] and in pdfTeX you need \usetpescript[name][ec] \setupbodyfont[name,sizeorstyleifneeded]
You can take a look at type-tmf.tex, type-one.tex, type-otf.tex and math-*.tex in ConTeXt sources.
Mojca
Thank you so much to all of you who replied. I suppose that the commands of the type \usetypescript[name][ec] \setupbodyfont[name,sizeorstyleifneeded] that you suggested will also load the matching math fonts. I will also take a look at the documents Mojca has referred to. As Aditya and Mojca suggested, it would be great to have the fonts that are supported in Mathdesign...those are beautiful. Thanks again. I will try these definitions out and let you know if I run into any trouble.
Hello, Somehow the commands do not work. I added the following two lines \usetypescript[palatino] \setupbodyfont[palatino,rm,12pt] and the output is exactly the same as before. That is there is no change in the font even in the text. I am using TeXlive. Thanks for your help.
work in luatex. pdftex should specify the encoding.
On Tue, Jan 13, 2009 at 9:53 PM, Curious
Hello,
Somehow the commands do not work. I added the following two lines
\usetypescript[palatino] \setupbodyfont[palatino,rm,12pt]
and the output is exactly the same as before. That is there is no change in the font even in the text. I am using TeXlive.
Thanks for your help.
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Am 13.01.2009 um 14:53 schrieb Curious:
Hello,
Somehow the commands do not work. I added the following two lines
\usetypescript[palatino] \setupbodyfont[palatino,rm,12pt]
and the output is exactly the same as before. That is there is no change in the font even in the text. I am using TeXlive.
We need more information to help you. Do you use MkII, then write \usetypescript[palatino][ec] If you use MkIV or a newer ConTeXt version, then install the TeX Gyre fonts. Wolfgang
Curious
Hello,
Somehow the commands do not work. I added the following two lines
\usetypescript[palatino] \setupbodyfont[palatino,rm,12pt]
and the output is exactly the same as before. That is there is no change in the font even in the text. I am using TeXlive.
Thanks for your help.
Sorry about not specifying the error. I get an error saying that "I can't find file pxr"
Am 13.01.2009 um 15:00 schrieb Curious:
Hello,
Somehow the commands do not work. I added the following two lines
\usetypescript[palatino] \setupbodyfont[palatino,rm,12pt]
and the output is exactly the same as before. That is there is no change in the font even in the text. I am using TeXlive.
Sorry about not specifying the error. I get an error saying that "I can't find file pxr"
The math fonts are missing, you need to install the pxfonts package. Wolfgang
On Tue, Jan 13, 2009 at 2:53 PM, Curious wrote:
Hello,
Somehow the commands do not work. I added the following two lines
\usetypescript[palatino] \setupbodyfont[palatino,rm,12pt]
and the output is exactly the same as before. That is there is no change in the font even in the text. I am using TeXlive.
Hello, apart from what others have written you (to install pxfonts, to use \usetypescript[palatino][ec] if you are using pdfTeX and not xetex or luatex), you can also try to update ConTeXt if you know what you are doing*. Or at least a warning should be in place: the latest ConTeXt uses TeX Gyre + pxfonts exclusively, while the older ConTeXt uses URW fonts. The difference is tiny, but there is some. Mojca * If you don't know what you are doing, then using the version that comes with TeX Live might be safer, but you won't be able to test any improvements that might arise on your request
Hello,
apart from what others have written you (to install pxfonts, to use \usetypescript[palatino][ec] if you are using pdfTeX and not xetex or luatex), you can also try to update ConTeXt if you know what you are doing*. Or at least a warning should be in place: the latest ConTeXt uses TeX Gyre + pxfonts exclusively, while the older ConTeXt uses URW fonts. The difference is tiny, but there is some.
Mojca
* If you don't know what you are doing, then using the version that comes with TeX Live might be safer, but you won't be able to test any improvements that might arise on your request
Thanks you all once again for your help. I installed pxfonts and the command now works great and I do get the Palatino output. I am very new to Context and this last week was mainly a kind of trial to see how I like it. So far I love what I see. Also, I think the fact that there are so many helpful people here in this forum has convinced me that if I get stuck with something, which I will, there are experts whom I could ask for help. Hence, I have decided to use it for most of my documents. Things are very busy now, and hence for the next month or so I plan to continue using the version that comes with TeXlive, but after that I will try to update and get the latest stable version. I hope that in future Context makes more fonts available. For now it seems I will be using Palatino, which is good too. Thanks again.
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Aditya Mahajan -
Curious -
Hans Hagen -
Mikael Persson -
Mojca Miklavec -
Wolfgang Schuster -
Yue Wang