luigi scarso wrote:

On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 11:23 AM, Matthijs Kooijman wrote:

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Hi all,

I'm working with a few custom macros to simplify typing a bit, like:

\def\VHDL{\small{VHDL}}

However, when I use this macro in text, like \VHDL this, it gobbles the space after it. I've seen some references that say to solve this by writing \VHDL{} instead, but that is of course very unpretty. I've tried to put all kinds of stuff ({}, \mbox{}, \obeyedspace, etc.) inside the \VHDL macro, but it seems the space is already gone there, so that didn't work. (Note that just putting a space inside the macro won't work, for cases where I use \VHDL, like this)

\autoinsertnextspace is the context version of \xspace (could be mkii only)

On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 11:41 AM, Matthijs Kooijman wrote:

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\autoinsertnextspace is the context version of \xspace (could be mkii only) Woah, that works (in MkIV). Thanks!

hm , some problem here # context --version MTXrun | main context file: context.tex MTXrun | current version: 2009.11.10 13:30 %%% test.tex \starttext \tracingall \autoinsertnextspace\tracingnone A \stoptext #context test {undefined} ! Undefined control sequence. l.2 \tracingall \autoinsertnextspace \tracingnone # grep autoinsertnextspace * spac-gen.mkii:%D \setupsorting[logo][next=\autoinsertnextspace] \logo[TEX]{\TeX} spac-gen.mkii:\def\autoinsertnextspace{\futurelet\nexttoken\doautoinsertnextspace} spac-gen.mkii:\def\doautoinsertnextspace % slightly extended version of a user supplied macro strc-not.mkii: \c!next=\autoinsertnextspace, % new, experimental with startnotes strc-not.mkiv: \c!next=\autoinsertnextspace, % new, experimental with startnotes (note the \futurelet primitive) -- luigi

On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 12:00 PM, Matthijs Kooijman wrote:

Hi Luigi,

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hm , some problem here # context --version MTXrun | main context file: context.tex MTXrun | current version: 2009.11.10 13:30

Your example works fine for me on an older beta:

 $ context --version  MTXrun | main context file: /usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/context.tex  MTXrun | current version: 2009.10.28 19:27

I'd upgrade to see if it breaks as well, but I have a document to ship today, so perhaps after that :-p Ok (we all together cross the finger with you now :-) )

-- luigi

On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 9:53 PM, Matthijs Kooijman wrote:

Hi Luigi,

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hm , some problem here # context --version MTXrun | main context file: context.tex MTXrun | current version: 2009.11.10 13:30

Your example works fine for me on an older beta:

 $ context --version  MTXrun | main context file: /usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/context.tex  MTXrun | current version: 2009.10.28 19:27

I've just tried on a somewhat newer context which I found lying around, which does not give the error you gave (so it does know the \autoinsertnextspace command), but it doesn't work properly either (it never inserts a space AFAICT).

matthijs@xanthe:~$ context --version MTXrun | main context file: /usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/context.tex MTXrun | current version: 2009.11.24 10:13

I'll have another go with the newest version soon.

Gr.

Matthijs

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%%% test.tex \starttext \autoinsertnextspace A \stoptext #context test.tex ! Undefined control sequence. l.3 \autoinsertnextspace # context --version MTXrun | main context file: /opt/luatex/minimals-beta/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/context.tex MTXrun | current version: 2009.11.27 21:24 # luatex --version This is LuaTeX, Version beta-0.46.0-2009112820 It works with texexec #texexec test.tex ... Output written on test-matt.pdf (1 page, 15725 bytes). -- luigi

Matthijs Kooijman wrote:

Hi Luigi,

forget my last post. I was in a hurry last week and put a

\def\autoinsertnextspace{}

in my document just to get it compiling on context 2009.11.24. If I remove that, it stops working with "texexec --lua" (as well as just "context") with the same undefined control sequence error. It still works with just "texexec" (e.g., with MkII).

So, it works for me with 2009.10.28, and gives errors with 2009.11.24. There is no version where it silently fails, that was my own fault :-)

Actually, it does in fact seem the macro has completely disappeared. With the old version:

/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base$ grep def.autoinsertnextspace * spac-gen.mkii:\def\autoinsertnextspace{\futurelet\nexttoken\doautoinsertnextspace} spac-hor.mkiv:\def\autoinsertnextspace{\futurelet\nexttoken\doautoinsertnextspace}

With the new version:

/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base$ grep def.autoinsertnextspace * spac-gen.mkii:\def\autoinsertnextspace{\futurelet\nexttoken\doautoinsertnextspace}

The comment in the old version does say:

%D This is a dangerous feature because it makes the \TEX\ source %D less portable, i.e. any parser now needs to apply exactly the %D same algorithm when it wants to interpret the source. We %D strongly recommend not to mention this feature in manuals! It's %D provided for users who are hooked to such a mechanism.

So perhaps this is removed intentionally? Perhaps Hans can comment?

indeed, it's a kind of hack and if we need something like that i'll make a better version some day ... configureable and using unicode char properties i'll remove the call in mkiv Hans ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl -----------------------------------------------------------------

luigi scarso wrote:

On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 12:14 AM, Hans Hagen wrote:

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indeed, it's a kind of hack and if we need something like that i'll make a better version some day ... configureable and using unicode char properties

i'll remove the call in mkiv There is no \autoinsertnextspace in mkiv

there was a \c!next=\autoinsertnextspace ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl -----------------------------------------------------------------

On Friday 20 November 2009 11:41:16 Matthijs Kooijman wrote:

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\autoinsertnextspace is the context version of \xspace (could be mkii only)

Woah, that works (in MkIV). Thanks!

*Everywhere* the authors use \CONTEXT\ and \TeX\ followed by an escaped space. (Is this space [sometimes] unbreakable?) In my own texts, I often use {\TeX} as I find this not (too) ugly. Also, I tend to make less mistakes with this method (since it is very easy to forget the trailing backslash). If \autoinsertnextspace is the right solution, perhaps this could be included in the standard definitions in cont-log.tex. Alan