On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 9:56 AM, Thomas A. Schmitz wrote:

On Oct 14, 2008, at 11:18 PM, Hans Hagen wrote:

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Thomas A. Schmitz wrote:

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Hi Taco,

is it possible that luatex 0.30.1 is a little bit broken? When I try to process an xml file with it and the latest beta, I get no pdf output (but also no errors; it simply doesn't process the contents). Downgrading to luatex 0.30.0 solves this problem; I get the expected output.

hm, do you have a small test file?

Hans

I'll work on it the next days (no time today).

I got the same problem with the files from Johannese Graumann (thread: XML), you could use for the test. Wolfgang

On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 1:31 PM, Hans Hagen wrote:

Wolfgang Schuster wrote:

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On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 9:56 AM, Thomas A. Schmitz wrote:

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On Oct 14, 2008, at 11:18 PM, Hans Hagen wrote:

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Thomas A. Schmitz wrote:

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Hi Taco,

is it possible that luatex 0.30.1 is a little bit broken? When I try to process an xml file with it and the latest beta, I get no pdf output (but also no errors; it simply doesn't process the contents). Downgrading to luatex 0.30.0 solves this problem; I get the expected output. hm, do you have a small test file?

Hans

I'll work on it the next days (no time today).

I got the same problem with the files from Johannese Graumann (thread: XML), you could use for the test.

can you be a bit more specific? i cannot (yet) upload a beta because i'm in the middle of testing some changes in multipass data (prelude to moving from tuo to tuc completely)

I can make a example with the error message till tomorrow, no time yet. Wolfgang

On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 8:33 AM, Wolfgang Schuster < schuster.wolfgang@googlemail.com> wrote:

On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 1:31 PM, Hans Hagen wrote:

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Wolfgang Schuster wrote:

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On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 9:56 AM, Thomas A. Schmitz wrote:

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On Oct 14, 2008, at 11:18 PM, Hans Hagen wrote:

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Thomas A. Schmitz wrote:

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Hi Taco,

is it possible that luatex 0.30.1 is a little bit broken? When I try to process an xml file with it and the latest beta, I get no pdf output (but also no errors; it simply doesn't process the contents). Downgrading to luatex 0.30.0 solves this problem; I get the expected output. hm, do you have a small test file?

Hans

I'll work on it the next days (no time today).

I got the same problem with the files from Johannese Graumann (thread: XML), you could use for the test.

can you be a bit more specific? i cannot (yet) upload a beta because i'm in the middle of testing some changes in multipass data (prelude to moving from tuo to tuc completely)

Here is a example:

\startxmlsetups office \xmlsetsetup{main}{document|p}{*} \stopxmlsetups

\xmlregistersetup{office}

\startxmlsetups document \xmlflush{#1}\par \stopxmlsetups

\startxmlsetups p \xmlflush{#1}\par \stopxmlsetups

\startbuffer[test] <?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?> <document> <p>Text</p> </document> \stopbuffer

\starttext \xmlprocessbuffer{main}{test}{} \stoptext

ConTeXt creates the tuc, tuo and log files but all three of them are empty, all I get are these messages on the terminal:

Rover:ntgcontextxml wolf$ context test MtxRun | loading configuration for /Users/wolf/context/texmf/web2c from /Users/wolf/context/texmf-cache/luatex-cache/context/e5ae5b843cdf28d6425fc602d0958beb/trees/2a0f957ce5573724622167658c90e154 MtxRun | run 1: luatex

--fmt="/Users/wolf/context/texmf-cache/luatex-cache/context/e5ae5b843cdf28d6425fc602d0958beb/formats/cont-en"

--lua="/Users/wolf/context/texmf-cache/luatex-cache/context/e5ae5b843cdf28d6425fc602d0958beb/formats/cont-en.lua" "./test" (test.tex

ConTeXt ver: 2008.10.08 23:34 MKIV fmt: 2008.10.15 int: english/english

language : language en is active system : cont-new loaded (/Users/wolf/context/texmf-local/tex/context/base/cont-new.tex systems : beware: some patches loaded from cont-new.tex (/Users/wolf/context/texmf-local/tex/context/base/cont-new.mkiv lua : used config path - /Users/wolf/context/texmf/web2c/texmf.cnf lua : used cache path -

/Users/wolf/context/texmf-cache/luatex-cache/context/e5ae5b843cdf28d6425fc602d0958beb ) (/Users/wolf/context/texmf-local/tex/context/base/cont-mtx.tex)) system : cont-old loaded (/Users/wolf/context/texmf-local/tex/context/base/cont-old.tex loading : Context Old Macros ) system : cont-fil loaded (/Users/wolf/context/texmf-local/tex/context/base/cont-fil.tex loading : Context File Synonyms ) system : cont-sys loaded (/Users/wolf/context/texmf-local/tex/context/user/cont-sys.tex (/Users/wolf/context/texmf-local/tex/context/base/type-tmf.tex) (/Users/wolf/context/texmf-local/tex/context/base/type-siz.tex) (/Users/wolf/context/texmf-local/tex/context/base/type-otf.tex)) bodyfont : 12pt rm is loaded specials : tex loaded system : test.top loaded (test.top specials : loading definition file tpd (/Users/wolf/context/texmf-local/tex/context/base/spec-tpd.tex specials : loading definition file fdf (/Users/wolf/context/texmf-local/tex/context/base/spec-fdf.tex (/Users/wolf/context/texmf-local/tex/context/base/spec-fdf.mkiv)) specials : fdf loaded (/Users/wolf/context/texmf-local/tex/context/base/spec-tpd.mkiv)) specials : fdf loaded ) utilityfile | not present systems : begin file test at line 22 MtxRun | fatal error, message: luatex: execution interrupted

No problem here with This is LuaTeX, Version snapshot-0.30.1-2008100915, build unknown # context --version MtxRun | main context file: /opt/luatex/tex/texmf-local/tex/context/base/context.tex MtxRun | current version: 2008.08.05 18:47 But the same MtxRun | fatal error, message: luatex: execution interrupted with minimals. A mplib problem ? -- luigi

On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 10:40 AM, Taco Hoekwater wrote:

luigi scarso wrote:

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No problem here with This is LuaTeX, Version snapshot-0.30.1-2008100915, build unknown # context --version MtxRun | main context file: /opt/luatex/tex/texmf-local/tex/context/base/context.tex MtxRun | current version: 2008.08.05 18:47

But the same MtxRun | fatal error, message: luatex: execution interrupted with minimals. A mplib problem ?

This is likely to be a lua coroutine problem, there have been some changes to that part of the code, and coroutines are used by the mkiv xml parser.

Can someone tell me what the exact version of luatex is in the minimals? (and what platform, esp. for failures)

Mac OS 10.5 This is LuaTeX, Version snapshot-0.30.1-2008100910, build 1552 ConTeXt ver: 2008.10.08 23:34 MKIV fmt: 2008.10.15 int: english/english Wolfgang

Hi again,

Can someone tell me what the exact version of luatex is in the minimals? (and what platform, esp. for failures)

Assuming it is the coroutines (and that seems likely) I will try fix the problem on monday (no time today). Worst case scenario for the solution I have in mind is that coroutines will remain broken *only* on OpenBSD, and everything else will go back to 'normal'. Taco

On Oct 17, 2008, at 11:58 PM, luigi scarso wrote:

now it works ok with rev 1564 -- luigi

What is "it"? Thomas

On Oct 19, 2008, at 5:24 AM, luigi scarso wrote:

On Sat, Oct 18, 2008 at 8:14 AM, Thomas A. Schmitz

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On Oct 17, 2008, at 11:58 PM, luigi scarso wrote:

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now it works ok with rev 1564 -- luigi

What is "it"? revision number svn checkout svn://scm.foundry.supelec.fr/svn/luatex/trunk

I know that. You say "it" works. What is "it"? Thomas

On 19 oct. 08, at 09:41, luigi scarso wrote:

[…] If you have a small example , I will check it too .

Hi Luigi, Here is a small example which doesn' work for me… (I have compiled LuaTeX svn checkout 1564, and installed it) but only a blank PDF is produced: %% begin file basic-test.tex \starttext This file has been typeset on \currentdate{} at \currenttime, with \doifmodeelse{mkiv}{mkiv, LuaTeX revision \luatexrevision, (LuaTeX date stamp \luatexdatestamp)}{mkii}, ConTeXt version \contextversion, using the command: \starttyping texexec --luatex basic-test.tex \stoptyping or \starttyping texexec --lua basic-test.tex \stoptyping \stoptext %% end file basic-test.tex The log file begins by saying: ConTeXt ver: 2008.10.17 10:41 MKIV fmt: 2008.10.19 int: english/ english language : language en is active bodyfont : 12pt rm is loaded define font | font with name lmroman12-regular is not found define font | unknown font lmroman12-regular, loading aborted define font | unable to define lmroman12-regular as \*12ptrmtfrm* and many other such lines regarding the fonts. I have TeXLive 2008 installed and updated via the rsync method on ConTeXt Garden, and am running Mac OS X 10.5.5 on a MacBook Pro Intel Duo Core. (As mentioned above I compiled luatex 0.30.1 version 1564 on my mahine and installed it "by hand"). Before TeXLive 2008, the same file used to work on TeXLive 2007. Thanks for your insight: OK

On Sun, Oct 19, 2008 at 11:32 AM, luigi scarso wrote:

On Sun, Oct 19, 2008 at 10:56 AM, Otared Kavian wrote:

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On 19 oct. 08, at 09:41, luigi scarso wrote:

[…] If you have a small example , I will check it too .

Hi Luigi,

Here is a small example which doesn' work for me… (I have compiled LuaTeX svn checkout 1564, and installed it) but only a blank PDF is produced:

It seems ok with minimals beta .

-- luigi

Also with minimals I have just downloaded tl2008, I will check interactions with minimals. -- luigi

On Sun, Oct 19, 2008 at 2:23 PM, Otared Kavian wrote:

Hi Luigi, Thanks for having taken the time to test the file I gave in my message. Indeed my problem comes from luatex not finding the fonts Latin Modern, which mkii finds without any difficulty…

So minimals are ok.

Since I haven't changed anything in my TeX tree, why is so? Shouldn't mkiv be able to find what mkii can find? :-)

mkii and miv have different ways to seach files.

If you have any hint how to tell mkiv to find the default fonts LM, could you please tell us about that?

context --generate should be ok. I always run . setuptex every first time I start a sessione with mkiv , so I have the correct env variable But I'm installing a tl2008, so I will be more precise about this. -- luigi

On Sun, Oct 19, 2008 at 3:37 PM, Otared Kavian wrote:

Dear Luigi,

Thanks for you help. Below are some comments on what you wrote:

On 19 oct. 08, at 14:44, luigi scarso wrote:

On Sun, Oct 19, 2008 at 2:23 PM, Otared Kavian wrote:

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Hi Luigi, Thanks for having taken the time to test the file I gave in my message. Indeed my problem comes from luatex not finding the fonts Latin Modern, which mkii finds without any difficulty…

So minimals are ok.

Not really, since my mkii is the one I have in TexLive 2008, updated to ConTeXt ver: 2008.10.17 10:41 MKII fmt: 2008.10.17 int: english/english and it works fine. Up to now I didn't have installed the minimals through the commands given on the Garden. However, since you told me that it works fine, I just tried to install the minimals too, but while generating the formats I get:

! LuaTeX error ...mini/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/luat-tex.lua:322: attempt to perform arithmetic on local 'total' (a nil value). <*> ...texmf-context/tex/context/base/cont-nl.tex \dump

actually luatex is not good You should hit return until installation end; then install luatex from trunk; then remake format with context --generate context --make Now you must have no errors anymore .

Despite this, knowing that I have installed the minimals in a directory /Applications/context-mini and run the file setuptex contained in /Applications/context-mini/tex if I say /Applications/context-mini/tex/texmf-osx-intel/bin/texexec basic-test.tex a correct PDF is created, while if I say /Applications/context-mini/tex/texmf-osx-intel/bin/texexec --lua basic-test.tex again I have a blank PDF and the log file says that the fonts Latin Modern are not found.

Can you try context --generate context basic-test -- luigi

On Sun, Oct 19, 2008 at 7:56 PM, Otared Kavian wrote:

On 19 oct. 08, at 17:28, luigi scarso wrote:

On Sun, Oct 19, 2008 at 3:37 PM, Otared Kavian wrote:

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Up to now I didn't have installed the minimals through the commands given on the Garden. However, since you told me that it works fine, I just tried to install the minimals too, but while generating the formats I get:

! LuaTeX error ...mini/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/luat-tex.lua:322: attempt to perform arithmetic on local 'total' (a nil value). <*> ...texmf-context/tex/context/base/cont-nl.tex \dump

actually luatex is not good You should hit return until installation end; then install luatex from trunk; then remake format with context --generate context --make Now you must have no errors anymore .

I did again what you suggest, but no better result: /Applications/context-mini/tex/texmf-osx-intel/bin/context --generate results in MtxRun | error unable to identify cnf file MtxRun | error unable to identify cnf file MtxRun | no cnf files found (TEXMFCNF may not be set/known) MtxRun | unknown script: context (same thing with /Applications/context-mini/tex/texmf-osx-intel/bin/context --make).

Did you have made . setuptex (watch for the dot!) ?

Something strange which I don't know whether it is "legal" or not, is that if I use the luatols in the Context-Minimal folder, to generate, that is: /Applications/context-mini/tex/texmf-osx-intel/bin/luatools --generate then luatools uses for some reason what I have in my TeXLive 2008 directory that is what is in /usr/local/texlive/2008/ and if I rename the /usr/local/texlive to something else, then /Applications/context-mini/tex/texmf-osx-intel/bin/luatools --generate returns: env: texlua: No such file or directory

I thought what one installs with the Minimals is independent of TeXLive 2008 though…

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Can you try context --generate context basic-test

Again these do not result in anything good: same output as above, when I say context --make.

Now that I have done what you suggested, the mkii in the Minimals does not ork either :-)

Sorry for that !

Saying /Applications/context-mini/tex/texmf-osx-intel/bin/texexec basic-test.tex results in:

FatalError : Your format does not match the base files!

FormatVersion : 2008.10.08 23:34 MKII FilesVersion : 2008.10.17 10:41 and again the reason seems to be that the texxec in the Minimals uses /usr/local/texlive/2008/texmf-dist/tex/context/base/cont-new.tex which doesn't seem to be "normal".

I think the best I can do is to wait for something more stable to play with.

For my serious work I avoid up to now to use mkiv,

With the finger crossed I will start tomorrow a project in mkiv

but I would like to test what Hans, Taco and others are doing, at least to help find bugs for the Right to Left typesetting.

It's important, so I write how I setup my minimals on a linux box 1) mkdir -p /opt/luatex/minimals-beta 2) cd /opt/luatex/minimals-beta 2a) Now put here first-setup.sh (see contextgarden.net/minimals) 3) ./first-setup.sh 3a)If there are some errors due a luatex version; hit return until the end 4) cd tex 5) . setuptex 5a)Now, if you have compiled luatex from svn, put it into texmf-linux/bin 6) context --generate 7) context --make 7a)not errors anymore, I hope. 8)Every time I start a mkiv session I do cd /opt/luatex/minimals-beta/tex . setuptext as first step to ensure correct initilizatione of env variables. 9a)context --generate 9b)context --make to unsure a clean session. 10) always use context to make pdf; ie test your file with context basic-test.tex If you open first-setup.sh and change this line mtxrun --verbose --script ./bin/mtx-update.lua --update --make --force --engine=all --context=beta --tree=$PWD/tex $@ in mtxrun --verbose --script ./bin/mtx-update.lua --update --make --force --engine=all --tree=$PWD/tex $@ and then 1) mkdir -p /opt/luatex/minimals 2)... you can then end with a minimal installation Actually I have minimals-beta, minimal and tl2008 completly unrelated so each installations has is own fonts etc etc. It's ok, because minimals and minimals-beta are not so huge and I want to be sure that minimals-beta and minimals work -- luigi

On 19 oct. 08, at 21:50, luigi scarso wrote:

With the finger crossed I will start tomorrow a project in mkiv

Good luck, or as you say in Italy "in bocca al lupo!"…

but I would like to test what Hans, Taco and others are doing, at least to help find bugs for the Right to Left typesetting. It's important, so I write how I setup my minimals on a linux box 1) mkdir -p /opt/luatex/minimals-beta 2) cd /opt/luatex/minimals-beta 2a) Now put here first-setup.sh (see contextgarden.net/minimals) 3) ./first-setup.sh 3a)If there are some errors due a luatex version; hit return until the end 4) cd tex 5) . setuptex 5a)Now, if you have compiled luatex from svn, put it into texmf- linux/bin 6) context --generate 7) context --make 7a)not errors anymore, I hope. 8)Every time I start a mkiv session I do cd /opt/luatex/minimals-beta/tex . setuptext as first step to ensure correct initilizatione of env variables. 9a)context --generate 9b)context --make to unsure a clean session. 10) always use context to make pdf; ie test your file with context basic-test.tex

YES! I did it step by step as you say above (mutatis mutandis, that is by replacing texmf-linux by texmf-osx-intel): and now I have an mkiv in the minimal tree that works fine: the file basic-test.tex results in: This file has been typeset on October 19, 2008 at 23:56, mkiv, ConTeXt version 2008.10.17 10:41, LuaTeX revision 1, (LuaTeX date stamp 2008101818) Many many thanks! Grazie mille… A last question: it is really necessary to say (in the appropriate directory) . setuptex context --generate context --make for each typesetting session? Or is this a temporary procedure?

If you open first-setup.sh and change this line mtxrun --verbose --script ./bin/mtx-update.lua --update --make -- force --engine=all --context=beta --tree=$PWD/tex $@ in mtxrun --verbose --script ./bin/mtx-update.lua --update --make -- force --engine=all --tree=$PWD/tex $@ and then 1) mkdir -p /opt/luatex/minimals 2)... you can then end with a minimal installation

I will try these later. In this way one may have various versions at the same time. Best regards: OK

. setuptex: yes, but you can also have that it initialisation. I have put . context/tex/setuptex context/tex into ~/.bash_profile

hmm... some conflicts with other minimals or tex distros may arise, because you can not choose what luatex binary to execute

context --make and context --generate are only needed the first time after each update

Yes, it's true. But I want to put in a separe log the output context --generate so I do it by hand. Minimals work. If a test pass minimals, it's ok. If the same test doesn't pass on tl2008, probably tl2008 is to update and/or there are some env variables to adjust . -- luigi

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With the finger crossed I will start tomorrow a project in mkiv

Good luck, or as you say in Italy "in bocca al lupo!"…

Crepi il lupo! Arthur

On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 10:50 AM, Thomas A. Schmitz < thomas.schmitz@uni-bonn.de> wrote:

On Oct 19, 2008, at 9:41 AM, luigi scarso wrote:

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the Wolfgang's example. (and also my xml catalog ) If you have a small example , I will check it too .

I'm using rev 1565 and context version: 2008.10.17 10:41, and the Wolfgang's example still fails on my box (OS X 10.5). There's no error or warning on the terminal, the log and tui files are empty, and the tuo file says:

% % loaded files: 0 % % % temporary files: 0 % % % commands: 0 % % % programs: 0 % \endinput

which doesn't look very good...

an horror movie.... this evening, ASAP , I will post a zip of the test on minimals/minimals-beta. But I'm on a linux box... -- luigi

On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 12:59 PM, Taco Hoekwater wrote:

luigi scarso wrote:

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% programs: 0 % \endinput

which doesn't look very good...

an horror movie....

As I wrote to Thomas already: an empty tuo in mkiv is nothing to be worried about. Mkiv reads and writes .tuc files, and the existance of tui/ruo is simply an archaism.

Yes, I know. I'm still convinced that minimals minimals-beta work, but I'm not on OS X 10.5 (for otared they work but it's an intel mac) -- luigi

On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 10:50 AM, Thomas A. Schmitz < thomas.schmitz@uni-bonn.de> wrote:

On Oct 19, 2008, at 9:41 AM, luigi scarso wrote:

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the Wolfgang's example. (and also my xml catalog ) If you have a small example , I will check it too .

I'm using rev 1565 and context version: 2008.10.17 10:41, and the Wolfgang's example still fails on my box (OS X 10.5). There's no error or warning on the terminal, the log and tui files are empty, and the tuo file says:

% % loaded files: 0 % % % temporary files: 0 % % % commands: 0 % % % programs: 0 % \endinput

which doesn't look very good...

These are my wolfgang tests under linux ubuntu with new minimals. This is LuaTeX, Version snapshot-0.30.2-2008102016, build unknown minimals context --version MtxRun | main context file: /opt/luatex/minimals/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/context.tex MtxRun | current version: 2008.08.05 18:47 minimals-beta context --version MtxRun | main context file: /opt/luatex/minimals-beta/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/context.tex MtxRun | current version: 2008.10.17 10:41 -- luigi

On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 10:40 AM, Taco Hoekwater wrote:

Can someone tell me what the exact version of luatex is in the minimals? (and what platform, esp. for failures)

Source repository fetches the latest beta version with (I guess) one hour delay or so. Binaries get commited by several people, so it depends on when they run the "build-and-commit" script. Versions are stored in http://svn.contextgarden.net/minimals/bin/tex/linux/current/VERSIONS. (But it can also happen that build fails and one commits only the version tag, no actual binary. I hope that Peter's patch ruled out that possibility.) Mojca