On Tue, Apr 19, 2005 at 05:15:04PM +0200, Eckhart Guthöhrlein wrote:

From: Eckhart Guthöhrlein To: mailing list for ConTeXt users Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 17:15:04 +0200 Subject: Re: [NTG-context] TABLE: spacing, before/after User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i

On Tue, 19 Apr 2005 at 10:04:09-0400, Paul Tremblay wrote:

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On Wed, Apr 13, 2005 at 10:09:11AM +0200, Eckhart Guthöhrlein wrote:

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Hi,

three questions: - How can I control horizontal spacing of columns in natural tables? - What about vertical spacing? - How can I insert material after/before each cell, something like \setuptable[row][first][before=bla bla] ?

Thanks,

Hi Eckhart,

I think you might find some of the answers here:

http://getfo.sourceforge.net/context_xml/page5.html#id2258730

Nice overview, Paul. I had a quick glance, but I'm afraid the questions above are not addressed. Correct me if I'm wrong.

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setupTABLE[r][1][heigth=24pt] setupTABLE[c][odd][width=12pt] % the page gives more examples

Sorry if this is not what you are looking for.

Well, not exactly. By default, a column has the width of its widest entry. Using width=5cm, I can only define the absolute width of a column. But what I want is to increase the separation of adjectant columns. Whether this is achieved by adding space between columns or by setting their width to a certain amount wider than their natural width doesn't matter to me. You have already experienced the absence of a desirable feature yourself, but let me point out once again that this cannot be achieved by setting the rulethickness of the cell frame, since it is not possible to change left/right thickness from the top/bottom one, and frames are invisible but still take space if you deactivate them via e.g. topframe=off. Thanks for your page - it's surely of help, especially for newcomers, since tables (and the many different possibilities to produce them) are cumbersome in context.

Greetings,

Yes, I agree with the limitations of the TABLE module. Sorry I couldn't provide any better answer. When I get a chance, I'll put something on the page stating that a limitation of TABLE is the inability to set the space between columns. (Is it possible to set the space between columns using the more standard table module? I realize I didn't document this at all.) Paul -- ************************ *Paul Tremblay * *phthenry@iglou.com * ************************

On Tue, Apr 19, 2005 at 08:56:58PM +0200, Eckhart Guthöhrlein wrote:

On Tue, 19 Apr 2005 at 12:19:28-0400, Paul Tremblay wrote:

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Yes, I agree with the limitations of the TABLE module. Sorry I couldn't provide any better answer.

When I get a chance, I'll put something on the page stating that a limitation of TABLE is the inability to set the space between columns.

Well, maybe it will be possible for Hans to include support for the missing features in a future release. To sum it up once again, what I am missing: - control over column and row spacing - material before/after a cell, e.g. \setupTABLE[row][first][before=bla] - command hooks like \setupTABLE[1][3][hook=\dowithentry]

I'm not sure what hooks are! I assume the before could be something like \blankspace?

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(Is it possible to set the space between columns using the more standard table module? I realize I didn't document this at all.)

I have never tried it, but I think so. At the beginning of core-tbl, column modifiers i, j and k are claimed to do this. Since tabulate uses the same column specifiers as table, they should work with both. Untested ;-)

I need to start thinking before I type! I have this in my tutorial. I guess I assumed you get the same result with TABLE by simple making a column very wide (width=25cm). Paul -- ************************ *Paul Tremblay * *phthenry@iglou.com * ************************