Thanks! sometimes the moste obvious is hidden... although I would consider this a hack, it works perfectly. but I'm still wondering, if there is no soultion for the more "canonical" way. Regards Michael

On 24 Oct 2016, at 17:08, Otared Kavian wrote:

Hi Michael,

Maybe what Wolfgang meant by « putting the marks by hand » is something like: you define \StartCitation and \StopCitation in the following way:

% begin quotation-note.tex

\define\StartCitation{\startnarrower[left,right]«~} \define[1]\StopCitation{~»\footnote{#1}\stopnarrower}

\starttext \input tufte \StartCitation \input knuth \StopCitation{This is a Quote of Donald Knuth} \stoptext % end quotation-note.tex

Indeed instead of the quotation marks « and » you can put whatever you wish. If you have quotations without footnotes, then you may define another start-stop.

Best regards: OK

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On 24 Oct 2016, at 12:42, Michael Eidenbenz mailto:eidenbenz@arch.ethz.ch> wrote:

hello,

I found this old mail below, that is related to my problem. is there still no workaround for this problem? putting a (foot)note after a quotation mark is quite common and I don't want to put the marks by hand.

i was looking at spac-hor.mkiv and tried setupnarrower[after=]. but this did not work.

any help is appreciated

thanks michael

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Am 21.08.2014 um 23:42 schrieb Gerben Wierda http://rna.nl/>:

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Is it possible to use \startquotation..\stopquotation and have an endnote number follow the closing ''? If the \endnote is before \stopquotation, it ends up inside the '' character at the end. If it is after \stopquotation, it becomes the beginning of the next paragraph.

AFAIK this is only possible when you place the quotation marks by hand.

Wolfgang

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On 20 Oct 2016, at 11:13, Michael Eidenbenz mailto:eidenbenz@arch.ethz.ch> wrote:

hello,

how can I put the footnote number right after the quotationmarks without having a newline? dontleavehmode does not work.

thanks michael

\definestartstop[Citation] [before={\startnarrower[left,right]\startquotation}, after={\stopquotation\stopnarrower\dontleavehmode}]

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On 10/24/2016 05:08 PM, Otared Kavian wrote:

Hi Michael,

Maybe what Wolfgang meant by « putting the marks by hand » is something like: you define \StartCitation and \StopCitation in the following way:

% begin quotation-note.tex

\define\StartCitation{\startnarrower[left,right]«~} \define[1]\StopCitation{~»\footnote{#1}\stopnarrower}

\starttext \input tufte \StartCitation \input knuth \StopCitation{This is a Quote of Donald Knuth} \stoptext % end quotation-note.tex

Indeed instead of the quotation marks « and » you can put whatever you wish. If you have quotations without footnotes, then you may define another start-stop.

Here would be my suggestion, which gives a syntax that is a bit more ConTeXt-like, I feel (but the coding can probably be improved): \def\startQuote% {\dosingleempty\dostartQuote} \def\dostartQuote[#1]% {\blank [line] \iffirstargument \getparameters[QQ][note=oops,#1] \def\stopQuote{\footnote{\QQnote}\stopnarrower\blank [line]}% \else \def\stopQuote{\stopnarrower\blank [line]} \fi \setupnarrower [left=1cm,right=2cm] \startnarrower} \starttext \input zapf \startQuote \input tufte \stopQuote \startQuote[note=Knuth] \input knuth \stopQuote \stoptext Thomas

after some readings in the TeX book I came up with the following solution that works for me without having to change all my instances of startstopCitation in the text. \definestartstop [Citation] [ before={\hangindent=20mm\hangafter=0\symbol[leftquotation]}, after={\removeunwantedspaces\symbol[rightquotation]}, ] \starttext \startCitation \input tufte \stopCitation \footnote{This is a Quote of Donald Knuth} \input tufte \stoptext

Dear Wolfgang, thanks for your mail, that led me to the source in syst-aux where I found the TeX approach, my final solution. \def\startCitation% { \startnarrower[left,right] \symbol[leftquotation] \removeunwantedspaces} \def\stopCitation#1\par% { \removeunwantedspaces \symbol[rightquotation] #1 \stopnarrower} \starttext \startCitation \input knuth \stopCitation \footnote{This is a Quote of Donald Knuth} \input knuth \stoptext

On 26 Oct 2016, at 18:40, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:

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Michael Eidenbenz mailto:eidenbenz@arch.ethz.ch 26. Oktober 2016 um 16:30 after some readings in the TeX book I came up with the following solution that works for me without having to change all my instances of startstopCitation in the text. This doesn’t work when you have more than one paragraph in the Citation environment. \definestartstop [Citation] [ before={\hangindent=20mm\hangafter=0\symbol[leftquotation]}, after={\removeunwantedspaces\symbol[rightquotation]}, ]

\starttext \startCitation \input tufte \stopCitation \footnote{This is a Quote of Donald Knuth}

\input tufte \stoptext Here is a alternative version but you need a empty line or \par after \stopCitation.

\define\startCitation {\startnarrower[left] \symbol[leftquotation]\ignorespaces}

\define\stopCitation {\BeforePar{\removeunwantedspaces\symbol[rightquotation]}% \AfterPar {\endgraf\stopnarrower}% \GetPar}

\starttext

\startCitation \input knuth \stopCitation \footnote{This is a Quote of Donald Knuth}

\input knuth

\stoptext

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