DOC/RTF to ConTeXt via XML [was: Re: ConTeXt to RTF Conversion]
Thank you so much, Christopher, for your detailed answer!
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===== Idris Samawi Hamid wrote: Would it be possible to define an xml format for the journal so that I could more easily process both ConTeXt/LaTeX articles as well as the docs and rtfs I generally receive? Is this more work than it's worth? It's a humanities journal, so little-to-no math.
If your most pressing problem is the variety of data formats you receive articles in, then no, xml won't help. You'd still need some way of transforming the articles to the format of your choice. That being said, XML may be a very good intermediate step from Word or rtf to ConTeXt, if only because OpenOffice has pretty advanced import filters and stores its data in a straightforward xml format that should be easy to transform, assuming you start with a sufficiently rich set of predefined formats and somehow get people to either use them (fat chance, I know)
fat chance, perhaps, but maybe...(see below)
or have them be sufficiently different that you can automatically or at least semi-automatically classify the author's formatting to your presets. In really simple cases (e.g., pure prose) you may get away with accepting HTML and converting that.
Paul Tremblay's pages seem very useful in this regard: http://getfo.sourceforge.net/context_xml/contents.html Question: Is it possible to design a doc or rtf template that Open Office can convert to a sane, consistent xml format? If the Tremblay approach is rich enough, that would solve a lot of problems! Here is my idea: 1. Give each author a doc/rtf template for formatting their article; 2. Use OpenOffice to convert to xml; 3. Use the Tremblay method (have not tried it yet) to process this in Context. Question: Does the entire journal have to be in programmed in xml or can ConTeXt process xml locally? For example, I may have my own article done in COnTeXt mixed with other articles done in rtf=>xml. Any other advice (and/or pitfalls to watch for) would be appreciated. This sounds very promising! Best Idris ============================ Professor Idris Samawi Hamid Department of Philosophy Colorado State University Fort Collins, CO 80523
Idris Samawi Hamid wrote:
Question: Is it possible to design a doc or rtf template that Open Office can convert to a sane, consistent xml format? If the Tremblay approach is rich enough, that would solve a lot of problems! Here is my idea:
indeed, although converting open office xml is not always easy; stay away from tab's and use high level constructs as much as possible also, try to be very structured Hans ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl -----------------------------------------------------------------
Hi, i hope it's not a to bad question but how up-to-date is: cont-enp.pdf => November 12, 2001 and are the .tex-Files available for look and learn ;-) Just to satisfy my curiosity ;-) al ;-)
Alexander Lazic wrote:
Hi,
i hope it's not a to bad question but how up-to-date is:
cont-enp.pdf => November 12, 2001
and are the .tex-Files available for look and learn ;-)
Just to satisfy my curiosity ;-)
- actually it's a partial manual, some chapters are still 'unedited' - because i don't want too much detail in it, some topics got their own manual (column sets, details, color, metafun, tables, etc) - i'll redo the manual (maybe start this winter) and may split off more parts and/or add other (easier to maintain) - a general overview of context will be provided by a book written by steve peter and adam lindsay Hans ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl -----------------------------------------------------------------
Hi, On Die 27.09.2005 09:39, Hans Hagen wrote:
- actually it's a partial manual, some chapters are still 'unedited' - because i don't want too much detail in it, some topics got their own manual (column sets, details, color, metafun, tables, etc) - i'll redo the manual (maybe start this winter) and may split off more parts and/or add other (easier to maintain)
Thanx for explain ;-)
- a general overview of context will be provided by a book written by steve peter and adam lindsay
Do you know when the book will arrive? greetings al ;-)
Alexander Lazic said this at Tue, 27 Sep 2005 10:17:18 +0200:
- a general overview of context will be provided by a book written by steve peter and adam lindsay
Do you know when the book will arrive?
No. :) It's in the early stages yet. -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Adam T. Lindsay, Computing Dept. atl@comp.lancs.ac.uk Lancaster University, InfoLab21 +44(0)1524/510.514 Lancaster, LA1 4WA, UK Fax:+44(0)1524/510.492 -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
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Idris Samawi Hamid