Am 05.04.23 um 20:09 schrieb Hans Hagen via ntg-context:

On 4/5/2023 7:48 PM, Henning Hraban Ramm via ntg-context wrote:

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Forwarding from Mastodon:

Adobe, Apryse, Foxit and PDFAssociation have partnered up and made ISO32000-2 2020 (aka PDF 2.0), ISO/TS 32001 (Extensions to Hash Algorithm Support in ISO 32000-2) and ISO/TS 32002 (Extensions to Digital Signatures in ISO 32000-2) available as sponsored papers ... so **FREE**. Follow the links below; no valid email (or address) necessary: https://www.pdfa.org/sponsored-standards/ kind of interesting thatthe one from adobe is version 1 and the other one 2

i'll wait till it's really free .. currently it still costs EUR 0, so one has to fill in some cart / form

You can put in arbitrary data and then download. I don’t think it will become any more free. Hraban

On 4/6/2023 8:07 AM, luigi scarso via ntg-context wrote:

On Thu, 6 Apr 2023 at 07:54, Henning Hraban Ramm via ntg-context mailto:ntg-context@ntg.nl> wrote:

Am 05.04.23 um 20:09 schrieb Hans Hagen via ntg-context: > On 4/5/2023 7:48 PM, Henning Hraban Ramm via ntg-context wrote: >> Forwarding from Mastodon: >> >> Adobe, Apryse, Foxit and PDFAssociation have partnered up and made >> ISO32000-2 2020 (aka PDF 2.0), >> ISO/TS 32001 (Extensions to Hash Algorithm Support in ISO 32000-2) and >> ISO/TS 32002 (Extensions to Digital Signatures in ISO 32000-2) >> available as sponsored papers ... so **FREE**. >> Follow the links below; no valid email (or address) necessary: >> https://www.pdfa.org/sponsored-standards/ https://www.pdfa.org/sponsored-standards/ > kind of interesting thatthe one from adobe is version 1 and the other one 2 > > i'll wait till it's really free .. currently it still costs EUR 0, so > one has to fill in some cart / form

You can put in arbitrary data and then download. I don’t think it will become any more free.

indeed, but then:  why don't  we put them on the wiki site / another free site ?

Any legal restrictions ?

Probably okay as long as one doesn't resell it for EUR 0 ... It all looks a bit weird to me anyway "sponsored standards" esp with sponsors mentioned on the cover instead of in thanks 'introduction'. What happens when the sponsors withdraw? How does that legally work with distributing? What is there are updates (unlikely anyway). Hans ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | www.pragma-ade.nl | www.pragma-pod.nl -----------------------------------------------------------------

Am Thu, 6 Apr 2023 09:02:10 +0200 schrieb Hans Hagen via ntg-context:

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You can put in arbitrary data and then download. I don’t think it will become any more free.

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indeed, but then:  why don't  we put them on the wiki site / another free site ?

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Any legal restrictions ?

Yes, the copy I got has in the footer Sold by the PDF Association to Ulrike Fischer XXXX | April 5, 2023 | Single user only, copying and networking prohibited. I wouldn't distribute it for the same reason I wouldn't distribute pdf copies of the TeXbook.

What happens when the sponsors withdraw?

What should happen? I bought a copy at a very good price (0€) and now own it. If the sponsorship ends and the price goes up to 200 CHF again nothing changes for me.

What is there are updates (unlikely anyway).

Amendments to ISO document typically have to be buyed too, e.g. amendment 1 (which is part of the bundled offered by pdfa) normally costs 17 CHF. Personally I think that the PDF Association made a very good job here (they worked hard on it), I'm quite grateful for it and I hope that there will more of these offers (personally I would like to get pdf/A-4 and the upcomming pdf/UA-2). -- Ulrike Fischer http://www.troubleshooting-tex.de/