XeTeX: faked bold & slanted + request for ppc users
Hello, I just wanted to let you know that XeTeX now supports both faking bold and slanted (and the binaries on the garden minimals have that feature already). It's generally a bad idea to use it, but in case that you need it only for small portions of text (if you really have no other way out), it could be handy. (Slanted is less evil to use than "bold".) The plain syntax is: \font\a="Gentium" \font\b="Gentium:slant=0.2" % better: \font\b="Gentium/I" \font\c="Gentium:embolden=2" \font\d="Gentium:embolden=2;slant=0.2" Some time ago I have posted an example of the (current?) ConTeXt way to use it: \definefontfeature [slantedandextended] % cloned from the rest of XeTeX, not really needed [method=node,script=latn,language=dflt,liga=yes,onum=yes,kern=yes, slant=0.25,extend=1.5] \definefontsynonym [myfont] [file:texgyrepagella-regular][features=slantedandextended] \starttext \definedfont[myfont] This is slanted and extended \stoptext Also, I would be greatful if any mac ppc user could provide feedback whether the cross-compiled xetex binaries on http://minimals.contextgarden.net/current/bin/xetex/osx-ppc/bin/ work ok. Thanks, Mojca
Mojca Miklavec wrote:
Hello,
I just wanted to let you know that XeTeX now supports both faking bold and slanted (and the binaries on the garden minimals have that feature already). It's generally a bad idea to use it, but in case that you need it only for small portions of text (if you really have no other way out), it could be handy. (Slanted is less evil to use than "bold".)
The plain syntax is:
\font\a="Gentium" \font\b="Gentium:slant=0.2" % better: \font\b="Gentium/I" \font\c="Gentium:embolden=2" \font\d="Gentium:embolden=2;slant=0.2"
hm, so it's embolden? in that case we need a remap to extend
Some time ago I have posted an example of the (current?) ConTeXt way to use it:
\definefontfeature [slantedandextended] % cloned from the rest of XeTeX, not really needed [method=node,script=latn,language=dflt,liga=yes,onum=yes,kern=yes, slant=0.25,extend=1.5]
i remember that taco and i discussed it with regards to luatex (i think that we even had a key in the tfm table at some point); i need to look into it
\definefontsynonym [myfont] [file:texgyrepagella-regular][features=slantedandextended]
\starttext \definedfont[myfont] This is slanted and extended \stoptext
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On Sun, Mar 9, 2008 at 8:26 PM, Hans Hagen wrote:
Mojca Miklavec wrote:
Hello,
I just wanted to let you know that XeTeX now supports both faking bold and slanted (and the binaries on the garden minimals have that feature already). It's generally a bad idea to use it, but in case that you need it only for small portions of text (if you really have no other way out), it could be handy. (Slanted is less evil to use than "bold".)
The plain syntax is:
\font\a="Gentium" \font\b="Gentium:slant=0.2" % better: \font\b="Gentium/I" \font\c="Gentium:embolden=2" \font\d="Gentium:embolden=2;slant=0.2"
hm, so it's embolden? in that case we need a remap to extend
If I understand your question, extending the kerning for line thickness is missing, yes (but maybe not desired in monospace fonts or in Chinese, which is where the feature request came from, but in most cases extended should be applied indeed). I wanted to ask that, but I'm not sure about what is the most right thing to do.
Some time ago I have posted an example of the (current?) ConTeXt way to use it:
\definefontfeature [slantedandextended] % cloned from the rest of XeTeX, not really needed [method=node,script=latn,language=dflt,liga=yes,onum=yes,kern=yes, slant=0.25,extend=1.5]
i remember that taco and i discussed it with regards to luatex (i think that we even had a key in the tfm table at some point); i need to look into it
I'm only guessing, but I also have a feeling that ConTeXt could already support that feature per-se (with minor modifications). Doesn't "outline fonts" in ConTeXt use exactly the same kind of trickery as this "embolden" in XeTeX? (Only that outline only draws outlines, while embolden draws the inner part (normal glyphs) + outline.) Mojca
On 10 Mar 2008, at 1:50 pm, Mojca Miklavec wrote:
On Sun, Mar 9, 2008 at 8:26 PM, Hans Hagen wrote:
Mojca Miklavec wrote:
Hello,
I just wanted to let you know that XeTeX now supports both faking bold and slanted (and the binaries on the garden minimals have that feature already). It's generally a bad idea to use it, but in case that you need it only for small portions of text (if you really have no other way out), it could be handy. (Slanted is less evil to use than "bold".)
The plain syntax is:
\font\a="Gentium" \font\b="Gentium:slant=0.2" % better: \font\b="Gentium/I" \font\c="Gentium:embolden=2" \font\d="Gentium:embolden=2;slant=0.2"
hm, so it's embolden? in that case we need a remap to extend
If I understand your question, extending the kerning for line thickness is missing, yes
If you want to loosen the letter spacing slightly, just use something like \font\a="Gentium:embolden=2;letterspace=2"
(but maybe not desired in monospace fonts or in Chinese, which is where the feature request came from,
Right, which is why it's not automatically applied. JK
Mojca Miklavec wrote:
On Sun, Mar 9, 2008 at 8:26 PM, Hans Hagen wrote:
Mojca Miklavec wrote:
Hello,
I just wanted to let you know that XeTeX now supports both faking bold and slanted (and the binaries on the garden minimals have that feature already). It's generally a bad idea to use it, but in case that you need it only for small portions of text (if you really have no other way out), it could be handy. (Slanted is less evil to use than "bold".)
The plain syntax is:
\font\a="Gentium" \font\b="Gentium:slant=0.2" % better: \font\b="Gentium/I" \font\c="Gentium:embolden=2" \font\d="Gentium:embolden=2;slant=0.2"
hm, so it's embolden? in that case we need a remap to extend
If I understand your question, extending the kerning for line thickness is missing, yes (but maybe not desired in monospace fonts or
no, i meant: slant and extend are the keywords .. similar to what happens in map files
I'm only guessing, but I also have a feeling that ConTeXt could already support that feature per-se (with minor modifications). Doesn't "outline fonts" in ConTeXt use exactly the same kind of trickery as this "embolden" in XeTeX? (Only that outline only draws outlines, while embolden draws the inner part (normal glyphs) + outline.)
ah, no idea ... extend normally scales the font horizontally (and therefore needs to widen the metrics); using outline trickery for faking bold sounds like a bad idea to me; anyhow, in mkiv that's not a font feature but a rendering option Hans ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl -----------------------------------------------------------------
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