Re: [NTG-context] [tex-live] difference texlive 2008, 2009

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Taco Hoekwater

9 Jan 2010 9 Jan '10

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Lubos Kolouch wrote:

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Hello,

I have a strange problem and I am not sure what causes it.

This is a context question, redirecting to the mailing list. (we will still need a small test file, though) Best wishes, Taco

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When I run texlive on one of my .tex files in Gentoo (texlive-2008),

\bTD[width=120pt,topframe=on,height=32pt,align={right,low}] \ {\externalfigure[flcz.png] [width=20pt]} Czech \eTD

the result is that I have the flag, then space and the word Czech

In Archlinux (texlive 2009) the text is behind the flag, ie. invisible

When I change \ {\extern.... to for example xx \{\extern... , in both versions it is correct, ie. xx flag Czech

Is that - my file issue - Archlinux issue - texlive version difference issue

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Thank you for any hints...

Lubos

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Lubos Kolouch

9 Jan 9 Jan

9:05 a.m.

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Hello, (sorry for posting to wrong group first). \setupoutput [pdftex] \enableregime [utf] \usetypescript [modern][ec] \setupbodyfont [ss,10pt] \mainlanguage [en] \setuppapersize [A4][A4] \setupcolors [state=start] \setuppagenumber [state=stop] \starttext \setupTABLE[background=color,backgroundcolor=white] \bTABLE \bTABLEbody \bTR[topframe=off] \bTD[nr=4,width=100pt,frame=off] Languages \eTD \bTD[width=120pt,frame=off,rightfheight=32pt,align={right,low}] \ {\externalfigure[flcz.png] [width=20pt]} Czech, Slovak \eTD \bTD[width=240pt,frame=off,height=20pt,align={right,low}] native \eTD \eTR \bTR \bTD[align={right,low},height=20pt,frame=off] \ {\externalfigure[fluk.png] [width=20pt,align={right,low}]}\ English\eTD \bTD[align={right,low},height=20pt,frame=off] fluently written/spoken\eTD \eTR \eTABLEbody \eTABLE \stoptext Here is how it shows in 2008, ie. correctly : http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4021/4258250861_30120b1923_o.png Here is the "incorrect" 2009 document: http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2713/4259008582_dc05e21324_o.png Thank you for any hint, Lubos Taco Hoekwater, Sat, 09 Jan 2010 07:49:00 +0100:

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Lubos Kolouch wrote:

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Hello,

I have a strange problem and I am not sure what causes it.

This is a context question, redirecting to the mailing list.

(we will still need a small test file, though)

Best wishes, Taco

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When I run texlive on one of my .tex files in Gentoo (texlive-2008),

\bTD[width=120pt,topframe=on,height=32pt,align={right,low}] \ {\externalfigure[flcz.png] [width=20pt]} Czech \eTD

the result is that I have the flag, then space and the word Czech

In Archlinux (texlive 2009) the text is behind the flag, ie. invisible

When I change \ {\extern.... to for example xx \{\extern... , in both versions it is correct, ie. xx flag Czech

Is that - my file issue - Archlinux issue - texlive version difference issue

?

Thank you for any hints...

Lubos

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Taco Hoekwater

10:51 a.m.

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Lubos Kolouch wrote:

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Hello, (sorry for posting to wrong group first).

Output looks ok here with the latest context release, so it could be a bug in the context included in texlive. The probable cause is that \<newline> does not switch to horizontal mode like it should, so an extra space before the newline should fix it. Best wishes, Taco

Lubos Kolouch

10 Jan 10 Jan

8:59 a.m.

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Taco Hoekwater, Sat, 09 Jan 2010 11:51:27 +0100:

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Lubos Kolouch wrote:

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Hello, (sorry for posting to wrong group first).

Output looks ok here with the latest context release, so it could be a bug in the context included in texlive. The probable cause is that \<newline> does not switch to horizontal mode like it should, so an extra space before the newline should fix it.

Best wishes, Taco

Thank you for the investigation, I will open a ticket with the buggy (Archlinux) texlive package. Lubos

Taco Hoekwater

9:01 a.m.

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Lubos Kolouch wrote:

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Taco Hoekwater, Sat, 09 Jan 2010 11:51:27 +0100:

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Lubos Kolouch wrote:

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Hello, (sorry for posting to wrong group first). Output looks ok here with the latest context release, so it could be a bug in the context included in texlive. The probable cause is that \<newline> does not switch to horizontal mode like it should, so an extra space before the newline should fix it.

Best wishes, Taco

Thank you for the investigation, I will open a ticket with the buggy (Archlinux) texlive package.

Unless you mark it 'action taken' or something it won't matter: the bug appears already fixed upstream. Best wishes, Taco

Aditya Mahajan

9:46 a.m.

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On Sun, 10 Jan 2010, Lubos Kolouch wrote:

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Thank you for the investigation, I will open a ticket with the buggy (Archlinux) texlive package.

You can also my context-minimals-git package for Archlinux: http://www.ntg.nl/pipermail/ntg-context/2009/043743.html which installs the latest context-beta. Aditya

Lubos Kolouch

13 Jan 13 Jan

2:21 p.m.

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Aditya Mahajan, Sun, 10 Jan 2010 04:46:54 -0500:

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On Sun, 10 Jan 2010, Lubos Kolouch wrote:

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Thank you for the investigation, I will open a ticket with the buggy (Archlinux) texlive package.

You can also my context-minimals-git package for Archlinux:

http://www.ntg.nl/pipermail/ntg-context/2009/043743.html

which installs the latest context-beta.

Aditya

Thanks. However the installation seems to hang after (1/1) aktualizace context-minimals-git [###########################################################################] 100% mktexlsr: Updating /opt/context-minimals/texmf/ls-R... mktexlsr: Updating /opt/context-minimals/texmf-context/ls-R... mktexlsr: Updating /opt/context-minimals/texmf-fonts/ls-R... mktexlsr: Updating /opt/context-minimals/texmf-linux-64/ls-R... mktexlsr: Updating /opt/context-minimals/texmf-local/ls-R... mktexlsr: Done. and secondly, when I run /opt/context-minimals/texmf-linux-64/bin/texexec minimal.tex the resulting minimal.pdf is WRONG! (ie. the bad formatting) Lubos

Vedran Miletić

5:02 p.m.

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On Wed, Jan 13, 2010 at 3:21 PM, Lubos Kolouch wrote:

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Aditya Mahajan, Sun, 10 Jan 2010 04:46:54 -0500:

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On Sun, 10 Jan 2010, Lubos Kolouch wrote:

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Thank you for the investigation, I will open a ticket with the buggy (Archlinux) texlive package.

You can also my context-minimals-git package for Archlinux:

http://www.ntg.nl/pipermail/ntg-context/2009/043743.html

which installs the latest context-beta.

Aditya

Thanks. However the installation seems to hang after (1/1) aktualizace context-minimals-git [###########################################################################] 100% mktexlsr: Updating /opt/context-minimals/texmf/ls-R... mktexlsr: Updating /opt/context-minimals/texmf-context/ls-R... mktexlsr: Updating /opt/context-minimals/texmf-fonts/ls-R... mktexlsr: Updating /opt/context-minimals/texmf-linux-64/ls-R... mktexlsr: Updating /opt/context-minimals/texmf-local/ls-R... mktexlsr: Done.

and secondly, when I run /opt/context-minimals/texmf-linux-64/bin/texexec minimal.tex

the resulting minimal.pdf is WRONG! (ie. the bad formatting)

Lubos

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You need to press Enter twice to answer an invisible prompt (in case you care, I found out about that accidentally). Regards, -- Vedran Miletić

Lubos Kolouch

5:20 p.m.

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Vedran Miletić, Wed, 13 Jan 2010 18:02:02 +0100:

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On Wed, Jan 13, 2010 at 3:21 PM, Lubos Kolouch wrote:

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Aditya Mahajan, Sun, 10 Jan 2010 04:46:54 -0500:

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On Sun, 10 Jan 2010, Lubos Kolouch wrote:

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Thank you for the investigation, I will open a ticket with the buggy (Archlinux) texlive package.

You can also my context-minimals-git package for Archlinux:

http://www.ntg.nl/pipermail/ntg-context/2009/043743.html

which installs the latest context-beta.

Aditya

Thanks. However the installation seems to hang after (1/1) aktualizace context-minimals-git

[###########################################################################]

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100% mktexlsr: Updating /opt/context-minimals/texmf/ls-R... mktexlsr: Updating /opt/context-minimals/texmf-context/ls-R... mktexlsr: Updating /opt/context-minimals/texmf-fonts/ls-R... mktexlsr: Updating /opt/context-minimals/texmf-linux-64/ls-R... mktexlsr: Updating /opt/context-minimals/texmf-local/ls-R... mktexlsr: Done.

and secondly, when I run /opt/context-minimals/texmf-linux-64/bin/texexec minimal.tex

the resulting minimal.pdf is WRONG! (ie. the bad formatting)

Lubos

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If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki!

maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net

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You need to press Enter twice to answer an invisible prompt (in case you care, I found out about that accidentally).

Regards,

Vedran Miletić

Thanks, after pressing Enter twice (in two cases) I could install the package, however the output is still wrong :( Lubos

Vedran Miletić

6:15 p.m.

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On Wed, Jan 13, 2010 at 6:20 PM, Lubos Kolouch wrote:

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Thanks, after pressing Enter twice (in two cases) I could install the package, however the output is still wrong :(

That's a bug in ConTeXt then, likely. Regards, -- Vedran Miletić

Aditya Mahajan

6:18 p.m.

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On Wed, 13 Jan 2010, Lubos Kolouch wrote:

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Aditya Mahajan, Sun, 10 Jan 2010 04:46:54 -0500:

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On Sun, 10 Jan 2010, Lubos Kolouch wrote:

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Thank you for the investigation, I will open a ticket with the buggy (Archlinux) texlive package.

You can also my context-minimals-git package for Archlinux:

http://www.ntg.nl/pipermail/ntg-context/2009/043743.html

which installs the latest context-beta.

Aditya

Thanks. However the installation seems to hang after (1/1) aktualizace context-minimals-git [###########################################################################] 100% mktexlsr: Updating /opt/context-minimals/texmf/ls-R... mktexlsr: Updating /opt/context-minimals/texmf-context/ls-R... mktexlsr: Updating /opt/context-minimals/texmf-fonts/ls-R... mktexlsr: Updating /opt/context-minimals/texmf-linux-64/ls-R... mktexlsr: Updating /opt/context-minimals/texmf-local/ls-R... mktexlsr: Done.

Most likely that is because luatools is asking to generate luatex-cache directory. I thought that I had taken care of it, I will check again.

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and secondly, when I run /opt/context-minimals/texmf-linux-64/bin/texexec minimal.tex

the resulting minimal.pdf is WRONG! (ie. the bad formatting)

Did you run source /opt/context-minimals/setuptex before running texexec? The post-install hook is supposed to display that message, but if the installation hung before that, you could not have seen that message. Aditya

Lubos Kolouch

7:29 p.m.

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Aditya Mahajan, Wed, 13 Jan 2010 13:18:55 -0500:

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On Wed, 13 Jan 2010, Lubos Kolouch wrote:

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Aditya Mahajan, Sun, 10 Jan 2010 04:46:54 -0500:

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On Sun, 10 Jan 2010, Lubos Kolouch wrote:

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Thank you for the investigation, I will open a ticket with the buggy (Archlinux) texlive package.

You can also my context-minimals-git package for Archlinux:

http://www.ntg.nl/pipermail/ntg-context/2009/043743.html

which installs the latest context-beta.

Aditya

Thanks. However the installation seems to hang after (1/1) aktualizace context-minimals-git

[###########################################################################]

...
100% mktexlsr: Updating /opt/context-minimals/texmf/ls-R... mktexlsr: Updating /opt/context-minimals/texmf-context/ls-R... mktexlsr: Updating /opt/context-minimals/texmf-fonts/ls-R... mktexlsr: Updating /opt/context-minimals/texmf-linux-64/ls-R... mktexlsr: Updating /opt/context-minimals/texmf-local/ls-R... mktexlsr: Done.

Most likely that is because luatools is asking to generate luatex-cache directory. I thought that I had taken care of it, I will check again.

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and secondly, when I run /opt/context-minimals/texmf-linux-64/bin/texexec minimal.tex

the resulting minimal.pdf is WRONG! (ie. the bad formatting)

Did you run

source /opt/context-minimals/setuptex

before running texexec?

The post-install hook is supposed to display that message, but if the installation hung before that, you could not have seen that message.

Aditya

Hoorray! After the command the output looks nice! Thank you again Lubos

Lubos Kolouch

12 Feb 12 Feb

7:29 a.m.

New subject: [tex-live] difference texlive 2008, 2009

Aditya Mahajan, Sun, 10 Jan 2010 04:46:54 -0500:

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On Sun, 10 Jan 2010, Lubos Kolouch wrote:

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Thank you for the investigation, I will open a ticket with the buggy (Archlinux) texlive package.

You can also my context-minimals-git package for Archlinux:

http://www.ntg.nl/pipermail/ntg-context/2009/043743.html

which installs the latest context-beta.

Aditya

Hello Aditya, I updated the package today on my system and it seems it is broken again? The layout is wrong :( Thank you Lubos

Taco Hoekwater

7:33 a.m.

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Lubos Kolouch wrote:

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Aditya Mahajan, Sun, 10 Jan 2010 04:46:54 -0500:

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On Sun, 10 Jan 2010, Lubos Kolouch wrote:

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Thank you for the investigation, I will open a ticket with the buggy (Archlinux) texlive package. You can also my context-minimals-git package for Archlinux:

http://www.ntg.nl/pipermail/ntg-context/2009/043743.html

which installs the latest context-beta.

Aditya

Hello Aditya,

I updated the package today on my system and it seems it is broken again? The layout is wrong :(

Me != Aditya, but I guess it would help if you explained what exactly is wrong ... Best wishes, Taco

Lubos Kolouch

10:14 a.m.

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Taco Hoekwater, Fri, 12 Feb 2010 08:33:27 +0100:

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Lubos Kolouch wrote:

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Aditya Mahajan, Sun, 10 Jan 2010 04:46:54 -0500:

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On Sun, 10 Jan 2010, Lubos Kolouch wrote:

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Thank you for the investigation, I will open a ticket with the buggy (Archlinux) texlive package. You can also my context-minimals-git package for Archlinux:

http://www.ntg.nl/pipermail/ntg-context/2009/043743.html

which installs the latest context-beta.

Aditya

Hello Aditya,

I updated the package today on my system and it seems it is broken again? The layout is wrong :(

Me != Aditya, but I guess it would help if you explained what exactly is wrong ...

Best wishes, Taco

Sorry... the package installs fine, however the output is wrong again (the text is behind/below the flag, not right to it) Lubos

Aditya Mahajan

7:54 p.m.

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On Fri, 12 Feb 2010, Lubos Kolouch wrote:

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Sorry... the package installs fine, however the output is wrong again (the text is behind/below the flag, not right to it)

Can you attach a minimal example and the log file? Aditya

Lubos Kolouch

15 Feb 15 Feb

2:12 p.m.

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I can, however it was already discussed here in this thread and fixed once... minimal file : http://dpaste.com/159433/ log: http://dpaste.com/159432/ Here is how it should show, ie. correctly : http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4021/4258250861_30120b1923_o.png Here is the "incorrect" document: http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2713/4259008582_dc05e21324_o.png Thank you for any hint, Lubos Lubos Aditya Mahajan, Fri, 12 Feb 2010 14:54:38 -0500:

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On Fri, 12 Feb 2010, Lubos Kolouch wrote:

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Sorry... the package installs fine, however the output is wrong again (the text is behind/below the flag, not right to it)

Can you attach a minimal example and the log file?

Aditya

___________________________________________________________________________________

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If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki!

maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net

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Aditya Mahajan

5:29 p.m.

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On Mon, 15 Feb 2010, Lubos Kolouch wrote:

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I can, however it was already discussed here in this thread and fixed once...

You can try the same solution again :) source /opt/context-minimals/setuptex

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minimal file : http://dpaste.com/159433/

log: http://dpaste.com/159432/

Notice that the files that are being sources are from /usr/share/texmf-dist and not from /opt/context-minimals/texmf-context You can check that by running which texexec If you are using minimals, you should get something like /opt/context-minimals/texmf-linux-64/bin/texexec With texlive, you will get /usr/bin/texexec Aditya

Lubos Kolouch

16 Feb 16 Feb

6:57 a.m.

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Aditya Mahajan, Mon, 15 Feb 2010 12:29:58 -0500:

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On Mon, 15 Feb 2010, Lubos Kolouch wrote:

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I can, however it was already discussed here in this thread and fixed once...

You can try the same solution again :)

source /opt/context-minimals/setuptex

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minimal file : http://dpaste.com/159433/

log: http://dpaste.com/159432/

Notice that the files that are being sources are from /usr/share/texmf-dist and not from /opt/context-minimals/texmf-context

You can check that by running

which texexec

If you are using minimals, you should get something like /opt/context-minimals/texmf-linux-64/bin/texexec With texlive, you will get /usr/bin/texexec

Aditya

Hi Aditya, Right - thank you. Pardon my ignorance, does it mean, I have to run it after every update of this package? Should that not be part of the install process? Lubos

Aditya Mahajan

5:58 p.m.

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On Tue, 16 Feb 2010, Lubos Kolouch wrote:

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Pardon my ignorance, does it mean, I have to run it after every update of this package?

You need to run source /opt/context-minimals/setuptex once on each terminal from which you want to run context. If you do not use texlive, then you can add this line to your .bashrc (or the rc file of whatever shell you use). setuptex sets PATH so that the minimals binaries are used rather than texlive's; setting OSFONTDIR so that you can use system fonts; and setting TEXMFCACHE.

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Should that not be part of the install process?

If can be, but that will mean that context-minimals will conflict with texlive. With the current approach, you can use both texlive (which is needed for latex, texinfo, and plain tex) and context-minimals. All you need to do is run source /opt/context-minimals/setuptex once for each terminal session. Aditya

Aditya Mahajan

12 Feb 12 Feb

7:47 a.m.

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On Fri, 12 Feb 2010, Lubos Kolouch wrote:

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Aditya Mahajan, Sun, 10 Jan 2010 04:46:54 -0500:

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On Sun, 10 Jan 2010, Lubos Kolouch wrote:

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Thank you for the investigation, I will open a ticket with the buggy (Archlinux) texlive package.

You can also my context-minimals-git package for Archlinux:

http://www.ntg.nl/pipermail/ntg-context/2009/043743.html

which installs the latest context-beta.

Aditya

Hello Aditya,

I updated the package today on my system and it seems it is broken again? The layout is wrong :(

Do you mean that the arch linux package context-minimals-git does not install, or that something is wrong in the output of a document compiled by ConTeXt? Aditya

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