Hi! And again, I have a problem with itemizations. This won't work: \startitemize \item aaa \item bbb \startitemize[packed,joinedup] \item xxx \item yyy \item zzz \stopitemize \item ccc \stopitemize More precisely, the "joinedup" option does not work in the inner itemization. Replacing [packed,joinedup] with [packed,joinedup,columns,two] helps - but I don't want two columns... And another problem, connected with this one: is there a "joineddown" option, symmetrical to "joinedup"? Thanks in advance -- Marcin Borkowski (http://mbork.faculty.fmcs.amu.edu.pl) Well, I admit that I quite like the Emacs operating system. The only problem with it is that it lacks a good ASCII editor.