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Delicious - I'm still confused

Piotr Kopszak

18 Aug 2008 18 Aug '08

1:09 p.m.

Hello list, Sorry for being boring, but I still can't figure out whether Delicious font can or cannot be used with latest beta. It still does not work for me. Strangely mtxrun --script font --list|grep deli gives deliciousbold Delicious-Bold Delicious-Bold.otf deliciousbolditalic Delicious-BoldItalic Delicious-BoldItalic.otf deliciousheavy Delicious-Heavy Delicious-Heavy.otf deliciousheavymedium Delicious-Heavy Delicious-Heavy.otf deliciousitalic Delicious-Italic Delicious-Italic.otf deliciousmedium Delicious-Roman Delicious-Roman.otf deliciousroman Delicious-Roman Delicious-Roman.otf delicioussmallcaps Delicious-SmallCaps Delicious-SmallCaps.otf delicioussmallcapsmedium Delicious-SmallCaps Delicious-SmallCaps.otf but texexec --lua --pdf delicious-test has problems: define font | forced type otf of Delicious-Roman not found define font | font with name Delicious-Roman is not found define font | unknown font Delicious-Roman, loading aborted ! Font \*delicious12ptsstfss*:=Delicious-Roman.otf at 12pt not loadable: metric data not found or bad. Piotr -- -- Piotr Kopszak, Ph.D. Polish Art Gallery, National Museum in Warsaw -----------------------------> http://kopszak.mnw.art.pl/ http://okle.pl

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Wolfgang Schuster

18 Aug 18 Aug

1:16 p.m.

On Mon, Aug 18, 2008 at 3:09 PM, Piotr Kopszak wrote:

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Hello list,

Sorry for being boring, but I still can't figure out whether Delicious font can or cannot be used with latest beta. It still does not work for me. Strangely

mtxrun --script font --list|grep deli

gives

deliciousbold Delicious-Bold Delicious-Bold.otf deliciousbolditalic Delicious-BoldItalic Delicious-BoldItalic.otf deliciousheavy Delicious-Heavy Delicious-Heavy.otf deliciousheavymedium Delicious-Heavy Delicious-Heavy.otf deliciousitalic Delicious-Italic Delicious-Italic.otf deliciousmedium Delicious-Roman Delicious-Roman.otf deliciousroman Delicious-Roman Delicious-Roman.otf delicioussmallcaps Delicious-SmallCaps Delicious-SmallCaps.otf delicioussmallcapsmedium Delicious-SmallCaps Delicious-SmallCaps.otf

but

texexec --lua --pdf delicious-test

has problems:

define font | forced type otf of Delicious-Roman not found define font | font with name Delicious-Roman is not found define font | unknown font Delicious-Roman, loading aborted ! Font \*delicious12ptsstfss*:=Delicious-Roman.otf at 12pt not loadable: metric data not found or bad.

Make a example file. Wolfgang

Hans Hagen

1:36 p.m.

Piotr Kopszak wrote:

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Hello list,

Sorry for being boring, but I still can't figure out whether Delicious font can or cannot be used with latest beta. It still does not work for me. Strangely

mtxrun --script font --list|grep deli

gives

deliciousbold Delicious-Bold Delicious-Bold.otf deliciousbolditalic Delicious-BoldItalic Delicious-BoldItalic.otf deliciousheavy Delicious-Heavy Delicious-Heavy.otf deliciousheavymedium Delicious-Heavy Delicious-Heavy.otf deliciousitalic Delicious-Italic Delicious-Italic.otf deliciousmedium Delicious-Roman Delicious-Roman.otf deliciousroman Delicious-Roman Delicious-Roman.otf delicioussmallcaps Delicious-SmallCaps Delicious-SmallCaps.otf delicioussmallcapsmedium Delicious-SmallCaps Delicious-SmallCaps.otf

did you do mtxrun --scritp font --reload? ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl -----------------------------------------------------------------

Piotr Kopszak

1:51 p.m.

On Mon, Aug 18, 2008 at 03:36:38PM +0200, Hans Hagen wrote:

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Piotr Kopszak wrote:

did you do mtxrun --scritp font --reload?

----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl -----------------------------------------------------------------

Yes, I did. BTW, I used the the typescript and test file from this post http://archive.contextgarden.net/message/20080611.074352.b1751f5f.en.html type-delicious.tex: --------------------------------------------------------- \starttypescript [sans] [delicious] \setups[font:fallback:sans] \definefontsynonym [Sans] [Delicious-Regular] \definefontsynonym [SansItalic] [Delicious-Italic] \definefontsynonym [SansBold] [Delicious-Bold] \definefontsynonym [SansBoldItalic] [Delicious-BoldItalic] \definefontsynonym [SansCaps] [Delicious-Caps] \stoptypescript \starttypescript [sans] [delicious] \definefontsynonym [Delicious-Regular] [name:Delicious-Roman] \definefontsynonym [Delicious-Italic] [name:Delicious-Italic] \definefontsynonym [Delicious-Bold] [name:Delicious-Bold] \definefontsynonym [Delicious-BoldItalic] [name:Delicious-BoldItalic] \definefontsynonym [Delicious-Caps] [name:Delicious-SmallCaps] \stoptypescript \starttypescript [delicious] \definetypeface [delicious] [ss] [sans] [delicious] [default] \stoptypescript -------------------------------------------------------------- test-delicious.tex ------------------------------------------------------------ \usetypescriptfile [type-delicious] \usetypescript[delicious] \setupbodyfont[delicious] \starttext My document with the delicious fonts. \input knuth \stoptext ----------------------------------------------------------- But typescript is probably not to blame as I get the same error with: test-delicious2.tex --------------------------------------------------------- \starttext \definedfont[name:Delicious-Roman] Hello My document with the delicious fonts. \input knuth \stoptext ---------------------------------------------------------- Best Piotr -- -- Piotr Kopszak, Ph.D. Polish Art Gallery, National Museum in Warsaw -----------------------------> http://kopszak.mnw.art.pl/ http://okle.pl

Mohamed Bana

4:33 p.m.

Hans Hagen writes:

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did you do mtxrun --scritp font --reload?

Hi, Is this still true? "In the latest beta (July 2008) versions of Mark IV this is no longer the case. In these new versions, the reload command is run automatically whenever a named font cannot be found." http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Running_Mark_IV

Taco Hoekwater

2:02 p.m.

Piotr Kopszak wrote:

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Hello list,

Sorry for being boring, but I still can't figure out whether Delicious font can or cannot be used with latest beta. It still does not work for me. Strangely

mtxrun --script font --list|grep deli

gives

deliciousbold Delicious-Bold Delicious-Bold.otf deliciousbolditalic Delicious-BoldItalic Delicious-BoldItalic.otf deliciousheavy Delicious-Heavy Delicious-Heavy.otf deliciousheavymedium Delicious-Heavy Delicious-Heavy.otf deliciousitalic Delicious-Italic Delicious-Italic.otf deliciousmedium Delicious-Roman Delicious-Roman.otf deliciousroman Delicious-Roman Delicious-Roman.otf delicioussmallcaps Delicious-SmallCaps Delicious-SmallCaps.otf delicioussmallcapsmedium Delicious-SmallCaps Delicious-SmallCaps.otf

It may be possible that in the newest beta's you have to give the first column from the --list output as the font name, like so: \starttypescript [sans] [delicious] \definefontsynonym [Delicious-Regular] [name:deliciousroman] \definefontsynonym [Delicious-Italic] [name:deliciousitalic] \definefontsynonym [Delicious-Bold] [name:deliciousbold] \definefontsynonym [Delicious-BoldItalic] [name:deliciousbolditalic] \definefontsynonym [Delicious-Caps] [name:delicioussmallcaps] \stoptypescript Best wishes, Taco

Piotr Kopszak

7:55 p.m.

On Mon, Aug 18, 2008 at 04:02:25PM +0200, Taco Hoekwater wrote:

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It may be possible that in the newest beta's you have to give the first column from the --list output as the font name, like so:

\starttypescript [sans] [delicious] \definefontsynonym [Delicious-Regular] [name:deliciousroman] \definefontsynonym [Delicious-Italic] [name:deliciousitalic] \definefontsynonym [Delicious-Bold] [name:deliciousbold] \definefontsynonym [Delicious-BoldItalic] [name:deliciousbolditalic] \definefontsynonym [Delicious-Caps] [name:delicioussmallcaps] \stoptypescript

This hasn't changed much, this time I'm getting (./type-delicious.tex)) ! Font \*delicious12ptsstfss*:=deliciousroman at 12.0pt not loadable: Metric (T FM) file not found. <to be read again> Piotr -- Piotr Kopszak, Ph.D. Polish Art Gallery, National Museum in Warsaw kle ---------------------------> http://okle.pl http://www.magnatune.com/artists/altri_stromenti

Hans Hagen

8:14 p.m.

Piotr Kopszak wrote:

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On Mon, Aug 18, 2008 at 04:02:25PM +0200, Taco Hoekwater wrote:

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It may be possible that in the newest beta's you have to give the first column from the --list output as the font name, like so:

\starttypescript [sans] [delicious] \definefontsynonym [Delicious-Regular] [name:deliciousroman] \definefontsynonym [Delicious-Italic] [name:deliciousitalic] \definefontsynonym [Delicious-Bold] [name:deliciousbold] \definefontsynonym [Delicious-BoldItalic] [name:deliciousbolditalic] \definefontsynonym [Delicious-Caps] [name:delicioussmallcaps] \stoptypescript

This hasn't changed much, this time I'm getting

(./type-delicious.tex)) ! Font \*delicious12ptsstfss*:=deliciousroman at 12.0pt not loadable: Metric (T FM) file not found. <to be read again>

is the file listed in ...\luatex-cache\context\3addaf6083634dad22ef3141c83e8289\fonts\data\names.tma Hans ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl -----------------------------------------------------------------

Piotr Kopszak

8:32 p.m.

On Mon, Aug 18, 2008 at 10:14:47PM +0200, Hans Hagen wrote:

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Piotr Kopszak wrote:

is the file listed in

..\luatex-cache\context\3addaf6083634dad22ef3141c83e8289\fonts\data\names.tma

Hans

Yes, in fallback_mapping: deliciousmedium={ "otf", "Delicious-Roman", "Delicious-Roman.otf", false }, and in mapping: deliciousroman={ "otf", "Delicious-Roman", "Delicious-Roman.otf", false }, Piotr -- Piotr Kopszak, Ph.D. Polish Art Gallery, National Museum in Warsaw kle ---------------------------> http://okle.pl http://www.magnatune.com/artists/altri_stromenti

Hans Hagen

19 Aug 19 Aug

7:50 a.m.

Piotr Kopszak wrote:

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On Mon, Aug 18, 2008 at 10:14:47PM +0200, Hans Hagen wrote:

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Piotr Kopszak wrote:

is the file listed in

..\luatex-cache\context\3addaf6083634dad22ef3141c83e8289\fonts\data\names.tma

Hans

Yes, in fallback_mapping:

deliciousmedium={ "otf", "Delicious-Roman", "Delicious-Roman.otf", false },

and in mapping:

deliciousroman={ "otf", "Delicious-Roman", "Delicious-Roman.otf", false },

ok, so it's not a system font (else there would be a complete path); in that case, make sure that *tex* knows where to find the font, i.e. is the font in one of the valid opentype paths? did you run "luatools --generate"? the font database is currently not checked against the valid tree related variables (maybe sometime ...) Hans ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl -----------------------------------------------------------------

Piotr Kopszak

10:28 a.m.

On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 09:50:58AM +0200, Hans Hagen wrote:

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ok, so it's not a system font (else there would be a complete path); in that case, make sure that *tex* knows where to find the font, i.e. is the font in one of the valid opentype paths?

So you mean install it the old way with texfont, mktexlsr? It does not work in the Minimals version I got (just tried the example provided in the article by Adam Lindsay on Open Type installation) and I don't want it :) I would prefer to make it a system font if that would make it work. But what does a "system font" mean for luatex on linux?

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Did you run "luatools --generate"? Yes, I did.

Piotr -- -- Piotr Kopszak, Ph.D. Polish Art Gallery, National Museum in Warsaw -----------------------------> http://kopszak.mnw.art.pl/ http://okle.pl

Wolfgang Schuster

10:36 a.m.

On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 12:28 PM, Piotr Kopszak wrote:

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On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 09:50:58AM +0200, Hans Hagen wrote:

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ok, so it's not a system font (else there would be a complete path); in that case, make sure that *tex* knows where to find the font, i.e. is the font in one of the valid opentype paths?

So you mean install it the old way with texfont, mktexlsr? It does not work in the Minimals version I got (just tried the example provided in the article by Adam Lindsay on Open Type installation) and I don't want it :) I would prefer to make it a system font if that would make it work. But what does a "system font" mean for luatex on linux?

You don't have to install them with texfont. Where dou you save the fonts for the moment, in your TeX tree or in one of the OS directories. I have the fonts on my Mac under $HOME/Library/Fonts. Wolfgang

Piotr Kopszak

10:58 a.m.

On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 12:36:43PM +0200, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:

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On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 12:28 PM, Piotr Kopszak wrote:

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On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 09:50:58AM +0200, Hans Hagen wrote:

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ok, so it's not a system font (else there would be a complete path); in that case, make sure that *tex* knows where to find the font, i.e. is the font in one of the valid opentype paths?

So you mean install it the old way with texfont, mktexlsr? It does not work in the Minimals version I got (just tried the example provided in the article by Adam Lindsay on Open Type installation) and I don't want it :) I would prefer to make it a system font if that would make it work. But what does a "system font" mean for luatex on linux?

You don't have to install them with texfont. Where dou you save the fonts for the moment, in your TeX tree or in one of the OS directories.

I have the fonts on my Mac under $HOME/Library/Fonts.

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-- I installed ConTeXt Minimals in "/context" and copied delicious otf files to "/context/tex/texmf-context/fonts/exljbris" so in the TeX tree, I guess. When I tried to move them to "$HOME/Library/Fonts" and then ran "luatools --update; mtxrun --script font --reload" they disappeared altogether from the list given by "mtxrun --script font --list". So probably it's not a system directory on linux. Piotr -- Piotr Kopszak, Ph.D. Polish Art Gallery, National Museum in Warsaw -----------------------------> http://kopszak.mnw.art.pl/ http://okle.pl

Wolfgang Schuster

11:10 a.m.

On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 12:58 PM, Piotr Kopszak wrote:

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On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 12:36:43PM +0200, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:

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On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 12:28 PM, Piotr Kopszak wrote:

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On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 09:50:58AM +0200, Hans Hagen wrote:

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ok, so it's not a system font (else there would be a complete path); in that case, make sure that *tex* knows where to find the font, i.e. is the font in one of the valid opentype paths?

So you mean install it the old way with texfont, mktexlsr? It does not work in the Minimals version I got (just tried the example provided in the article by Adam Lindsay on Open Type installation) and I don't want it :) I would prefer to make it a system font if that would make it work. But what does a "system font" mean for luatex on linux?

You don't have to install them with texfont. Where dou you save the fonts for the moment, in your TeX tree or in one of the OS directories.

I have the fonts on my Mac under $HOME/Library/Fonts.

Wolfgang

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I installed ConTeXt Minimals in "/context" and copied delicious otf files to "/context/tex/texmf-context/fonts/exljbris" so in the TeX tree, I guess.

The correct path is "/context/tex/texmf-context/fonts/opentype/exljbris".

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When I tried to move them to "$HOME/Library/Fonts" and then ran "luatools --update; mtxrun --script font --reload" they disappeared altogether from the list given by "mtxrun --script font --list". So probably it's not a system directory on linux.

The local font directory under $HOME is only read on a Mac but you could add it to "OSFONTDIR". Wolfgang

Piotr Kopszak

11:42 a.m.

On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 01:10:04PM +0200, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:

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On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 12:58 PM, Piotr Kopszak wrote:

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On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 12:36:43PM +0200, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:

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On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 12:28 PM, Piotr Kopszak wrote:

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On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 09:50:58AM +0200, Hans Hagen wrote:

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ok, so it's not a system font (else there would be a complete path); in that case, make sure that *tex* knows where to find the font, i.e. is the font in one of the valid opentype paths?

So you mean install it the old way with texfont, mktexlsr? It does not work in the Minimals version I got (just tried the example provided in the article by Adam Lindsay on Open Type installation) and I don't want it :) I would prefer to make it a system font if that would make it work. But what does a "system font" mean for luatex on linux?

You don't have to install them with texfont. Where dou you save the fonts for the moment, in your TeX tree or in one of the OS directories.

I have the fonts on my Mac under $HOME/Library/Fonts.

Wolfgang

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I installed ConTeXt Minimals in "/context" and copied delicious otf files to "/context/tex/texmf-context/fonts/exljbris" so in the TeX tree, I guess.

The correct path is "/context/tex/texmf-context/fonts/opentype/exljbris".

Funny enough that didn't work when I tried to move the fonts there although it is in the output of 'kpsewhich --show-path="opentype fonts"' indeed.

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When I tried to move them to "$HOME/Library/Fonts" and then ran "luatools --update; mtxrun --script font --reload" they disappeared altogether from the list given by "mtxrun --script font --list". So probably it's not a system directory on linux.

The local font directory under $HOME is only read on a Mac but you could add it to "OSFONTDIR".

Wolfgang

Anyway, great thanks for help. Piotr -- -- Piotr Kopszak, Ph.D. Polish Art Gallery, National Museum in Warsaw -----------------------------> http://kopszak.mnw.art.pl/ http://okle.pl

Piotr Kopszak

11:30 a.m.

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it work. But what does a "system font" mean for luatex on linux?

You don't have to install them with texfont. Where dou you save the fonts for the moment, in your TeX tree or in one of the OS directories.

I have the fonts on my Mac under $HOME/Library/Fonts.

Wolfgang

Finally did it. Moved the fonts to /context/tex/texmf/fonts/opentype/public and they worked. Piotr -- -- Piotr Kopszak, Ph.D. Polish Art Gallery, National Museum in Warsaw -----------------------------> http://kopszak.mnw.art.pl/ http://okle.pl

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