Hi, There is a new feature + manual, for those who love obscure mechanisms. http://www.pragma-ade.com/general/manuals/xmanipulate.pdf Even if you dislike manipulations ... the manual mixes iwona and the new condensed latin modern monospace font. The preprocess feature is only supported by newtexexec. If you want to automatically run newtexexec instead of texexec, you need to set the environment variable TEXMFSTART_MODE to 'experimental' assuming that you use texmfstart as stub; for those who are not familiar with that: windows: texexec.bat @echo off texmfstart texexec.pl %* unix: texexec (shell script) #!/bin/sh texmfstart texexec.pl $@ (using texmfstart is a guarantee against changes in the policies of distributions with regards to scripts) Anyhow, the new feature concerns - preprocessing of files (e.g. recode for tex files or xslt-ing for xml files) - graphic manipulations (downsampling and beyond) Hans ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl -----------------------------------------------------------------
This doesn't seem to be working here (using OS X + zsh); I always get the "old" texexec. Best Thomas On Sep 14, 2005, at 9:46 PM, Hans Hagen wrote:
If you want to automatically run newtexexec instead of texexec, you need to set the environment variable TEXMFSTART_MODE to 'experimental'
Thomas A. Schmitz wrote:
This doesn't seem to be working here (using OS X + zsh); I always get the "old" texexec.
Best
Thomas
On Sep 14, 2005, at 9:46 PM, Hans Hagen wrote:
If you want to automatically run newtexexec instead of texexec, you need to set the environment variable TEXMFSTART_MODE to 'experimental'
then you should replace your stub file (something texexec in the bin path) Hans ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl -----------------------------------------------------------------
Thomas A. Schmitz wrote:
bin there, done that (with the file you posted yesterday:
#!/bin/sh ruby /usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.local/scripts/context/ruby/ texmfstart.rb texexec.pl $@
not texexex.pl but just texexec ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl -----------------------------------------------------------------
OK, works like a charm!! On Sep 15, 2005, at 2:38 PM, Hans Hagen wrote:
Thomas A. Schmitz wrote:
bin there, done that (with the file you posted yesterday:
#!/bin/sh ruby /usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.local/scripts/context/ruby/ texmfstart.rb texexec.pl $@
not texexex.pl but just texexec ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl -----------------------------------------------------------------
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On Wed, 14 Sep 2005, Hans Hagen wrote:
Anyhow, the new feature concerns
- graphic manipulations (downsampling and beyond)
Oh, I just wanted to submit a new module (http://pmrb.free.fr/work/OS/ConTeXt/t-degrade.tex) for down-sampling to the community, so this is no more necessary... Cheers, Peter -- http://pmrb.free.fr/contact/
Peter Münster wrote:
On Wed, 14 Sep 2005, Hans Hagen wrote:
Anyhow, the new feature concerns
- graphic manipulations (downsampling and beyond)
Oh, I just wanted to submit a new module (http://pmrb.free.fr/work/OS/ConTeXt/t-degrade.tex) for down-sampling to the community, so this is no more necessary...
i can't download the file -) anyhow, it does not hurt to have multiple methods Hans ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl -----------------------------------------------------------------
On Thu, 15 Sep 2005, Hans Hagen wrote:
Oh, I just wanted to submit a new module (http://pmrb.free.fr/work/OS/ConTeXt/t-degrade.tex) for down-sampling to the community, so this is no more necessary...
i can't download the file -)
Oh, what is the error-message? Peter -- http://pmrb.free.fr/contact/
Peter Münster wrote:
On Thu, 15 Sep 2005, Hans Hagen wrote:
Oh, I just wanted to submit a new module (http://pmrb.free.fr/work/OS/ConTeXt/t-degrade.tex) for down-sampling to the community, so this is no more necessary...
i can't download the file -)
Oh, what is the error-message?
i tried from without thunderbird, which launces firefox, which then hangs (a direct download works); concerning the code: interesting mix of scripting an texing-) but beware of redefining externalfigure; there is a hook \externalfigurepostprocessors since conversion normally happens once, the delayed postprocessing is not a real problem; the advantage is that you then have access to all those \applied... variables Hans ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl -----------------------------------------------------------------
On Sun, 18 Sep 2005, Hans Hagen wrote:
concerning the code: interesting mix of scripting an texing-) but beware of redefining externalfigure; there is a hook
\externalfigurepostprocessors
since conversion normally happens once, the delayed postprocessing is not a real problem; the advantage is that you then have access to all those \applied... variables
Thank you! I tried to use these macros, but I cannot get \appliedfigureoptions expanded to get the height or width of the figure. The new t-degrade.tex is on the same place. Could you take a look at it please? Cheers, Peter -- http://pmrb.free.fr/contact/
� wrote:
On Sun, 18 Sep 2005, Hans Hagen wrote:
concerning the code: interesting mix of scripting an texing-) but beware of redefining externalfigure; there is a hook
\externalfigurepostprocessors
since conversion normally happens once, the delayed postprocessing is not a real problem; the advantage is that you then have access to all those \applied... variables
Thank you! I tried to use these macros, but I cannot get \appliedfigureoptions expanded to get the height or width of the figure. The new t-degrade.tex is on the same place. Could you take a look at it please?
can you send me the file? (extremely crowded mail box so looking backward ...) Hans ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl -----------------------------------------------------------------
On Wed, 21 Sep 2005, Hans Hagen wrote:
since conversion normally happens once, the delayed postprocessing is not a real problem; the advantage is that you then have access to all those \applied... variables
Thank you! I tried to use these macros, but I cannot get \appliedfigureoptions expanded to get the height or width of the figure. The new t-degrade.tex is on the same place. Could you take a look at it please?
can you send me the file? (extremely crowded mail box so looking backward ...)
In fact, the question is just: how to use \appliedfigureoptions and \appliedfigurefilename? In the following test-file, \appliedfigureoptions shows nothing and \appliedfigurefilename gives an error: \starttext \externalfigure[/opt/teTeX/texmf-local/tex/context/sample/spider][width=1cm] \appliedfigureoptions %\appliedfigurefilename %% ERROR: Undefined control sequence. %% \appliedfigurefilename ->\@@effilename \stoptext Nevertheless I send here attached the new t-degrade.tex, in order to let you see how I want to use these two macros. Another question: when there are two files ./fig.eps and ./degrade/fig.eps how can I tell ConTeXt to prefer loading the second figure when using \externalfigure[fig][options] ? It seems, that \setupexternalfigures[directory={degrade,.}] does not help... Greetings, Peter -- http://pmrb.free.fr/contact/
� wrote:
Another question: when there are two files ./fig.eps and ./degrade/fig.eps how can I tell ConTeXt to prefer loading the second figure when using \externalfigure[fig][options] ?
you may try prefix=degrade/ this is what the rlx files use
It seems, that \setupexternalfigures[directory={degrade,.}] does not help...
\expanded{\getparameters[Deg][height=,\appliedfigureoptions]} else the scanner sees no key=value Hans ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl -----------------------------------------------------------------
On Wed, 21 Sep 2005, Hans Hagen wrote:
\expanded{\getparameters[Deg][height=,\appliedfigureoptions]}
else the scanner sees no key=value
I've already tried this, but \appliedfigureoptions seems to be as empty as \relax... Cheers, Peter -- http://pmrb.free.fr/contact/
Peter Münster wrote:
In fact, the question is just: how to use \appliedfigureoptions and \appliedfigurefilename?
Hi Peter, It looks like this was never answered, and I think the answer is: they are only accessible from within the \externalfigurepostprocessors tokenlist, and are meaningliess/unspecified at the outside. This works, for me: \appendtoks \writestatus{figures}{file=\appliedfigurefilename} \to\externalfigurepostprocessors \starttext \externalfigure[/home/taco/maps33/minion/image-test][width=1cm] \stoptext Does that answer your collector item? Cheers, Taco
On Wed, 16 Nov 2005, Taco Hoekwater wrote:
This works, for me:
\appendtoks \writestatus{figures}{file=\appliedfigurefilename} \to\externalfigurepostprocessors \starttext \externalfigure[/home/taco/maps33/minion/image-test][width=1cm] \stoptext
Does that answer your collector item?
Yes and no, \appliedfigureoptions seems to be empty: \appendtoks \writestatus{figures}{options=\appliedfigureoptions} \to\externalfigurepostprocessors \starttext \externalfigure[/home/taco/maps33/minion/image-test][width=1cm] \stoptext Cheers, Peter -- http://pmrb.free.fr/contact/
On Wed, 16 Nov 2005, Taco Hoekwater wrote:
Peter Münster wrote:
On Wed, 16 Nov 2005, Taco Hoekwater wrote:
Yes and no, \appliedfigureoptions seems to be empty:
It contains only the value of the option= key from \externalfigure, so it will be empty in this case.
Is there any possibility to get "width=1cm" ? Peter -- http://pmrb.free.fr/contact/
Peter Münster wrote:
On Wed, 16 Nov 2005, Taco Hoekwater wrote:
Peter Münster wrote:
On Wed, 16 Nov 2005, Taco Hoekwater wrote:
Yes and no, \appliedfigureoptions seems to be empty:
It contains only the value of the option= key from \externalfigure, so it will be empty in this case.
Is there any possibility to get "width=1cm" ?
Not using \appliedfigure.... , but if you are willing to mess with \unprotect: \unprotect \appendtoks \writestatus{figures}{@@efwidth=\@@efwidth} \writestatus{figures}{figurewidth=\figurewidth} \to\externalfigurepostprocessors \protect Not sure if Hans is all that happy with that, though, because the use of low-level \@@ef... stuff is precisely what the \applied .. macros were supposed to hide. Taco
Taco Hoekwater wrote:
Peter M�nster wrote:
On Wed, 16 Nov 2005, Taco Hoekwater wrote:
Peter M�nster wrote:
On Wed, 16 Nov 2005, Taco Hoekwater wrote:
Yes and no, \appliedfigureoptions seems to be empty:
It contains only the value of the option= key from \externalfigure, so it will be empty in this case.
Is there any possibility to get "width=1cm" ?
Not using \appliedfigure.... , but if you are willing to mess with \unprotect:
\unprotect \appendtoks \writestatus{figures}{@@efwidth=\@@efwidth} \writestatus{figures}{figurewidth=\figurewidth} \to\externalfigurepostprocessors \protect
Not sure if Hans is all that happy with that, though, because the use of low-level \@@ef... stuff is precisely what the \applied .. macros were supposed to hide.
hm, @@ef is going to stay, but it is indeed ugly (maybe some day we have \figureparameter btw, how about: \usemodule[res-trace] it will let context write a \jobname.rlg (resource log) with some info Hans
On Wed, 16 Nov 2005, Hans Hagen wrote:
Is there any possibility to get "width=1cm" ?
Not using \appliedfigure.... , but if you are willing to mess with \unprotect:
\unprotect \appendtoks \writestatus{figures}{@@efwidth=\@@efwidth} \writestatus{figures}{figurewidth=\figurewidth} \to\externalfigurepostprocessors \protect
Not sure if Hans is all that happy with that, though, because the use of low-level \@@ef... stuff is precisely what the \applied .. macros were supposed to hide.
hm, @@ef is going to stay, but it is indeed ugly (maybe some day we have \figureparameter
Thanks you, \figurewidth and \figureheight should be enough for me, I think! Just one last question before improving my t-degrade module: how can I tell ConTeXt to search for images at first in another directory than the current directory? When there are two files ./testimg.eps and ./img/testimg.eps the following test file includes always the first one: \setupexternalfigures[directory={./img,.}] \starttext \externalfigure[testimg][width=3cm] \stoptext Greetings, Peter -- http://pmrb.free.fr/contact/
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