Jiri Polcar wrote:

On Fri, Apr 01, 2005 at 11:24:37AM +0200, Patrick Gundlach wrote:

...

The file works fine here. Except that only some part of the T is visible (large scale factor).

Same here (at least while generating pdf): I only see the left side of the bottom serif of the T, because that is the only thing that will fit on the page. It is quite possible that your resulting characters exceed some size limit in DVI mode. Try \setupoutput[pdftex] In this case your "scaled 5cm" expands into "scaled 141.7": the word test, scaled to 141.7 times it original size. Taco

Jiri Polcar wrote:

Sorry, I used "too" complicated example to describe my problem. I have no ouptput of btex-etex in any case...

That ran perfectly on my system. Any chance you can capture your screen output from the texexec run and post that? Taco

On Sun, Apr 03, 2005 at 09:28:45PM +0200, h h extern wrote:

a more simple version:

\setupoutput[pdftex]

\starttext

\startMPpage draw btex TEST etex; \stopMPpage

\stoptext

anyhow, what does

texexec --automp

produce

Also with this simple version I have empty output. This is what texexec --automp test.tex shows: --output-- TeXExec 3.1 - ConTeXt / PRAGMA ADE 1997-2002 executable : pdfetex format : cont-en inputfile : main output : standard interface : en current mode : none TeX run : 1 This is pdfeTeX, Version 3.14159-1.10b-2.1 (Web2C 7.4.5) \write18 enabled. entering extended mode (./main.tex{/usr/share/texmf/pdftex/config/pdftex.cfg} ConTeXt ver: 2003.1.31 fmt: 2005.4.1 int: english mes: english language : language en is active system : cont-new loaded (/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/cont-new.tex systems : beware: some patches loaded from cont-new.tex! system (E-TEX) : [line 726] \ifcsname ) system : cont-old loaded (/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/cont-old.tex loading : Context Old Macros ) system : cont-fil loaded (/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/cont-fil.tex loading : Context File Synonyms ) bodyfont : 12pt rm is loaded language : patterns 2:2-en-2 3:2-uk-2 4:2-de-2 5:2-fr-2 6:2-es-2 7:2-it-2 8:2-nl-2 loaded specials : tex,postscript,rokicki loaded system : main.top loaded (./main.top) pdftex : needs map file: original-context-symbol.map pdftex : needs map file: pl0-ams-cmr.map pdftex : needs map file: original-vogel-symbol.map specials : loading definition file tpd (/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/spec-tpd.tex specials : loading definition file fdf (/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/spec-fdf.tex system (E-TEX) : [line 1815] \ifcsname ) specials : fdf loaded ) specials : fdf,tpd loaded systems : begin file main at line 4 Randomizer initialized to 665223967. [MP mpgraph.1] [1.1] systems : end file main at line 10 [flush and process mpgraph.mp afterwards] ) Output written on main.pdf (1 page, 840 bytes). Transcript written on main.log. run time : 0 seconds generating graphics : metaposting mpgraph.mp TeXExec 3.1 - ConTeXt / PRAGMA ADE 1997-2002 metapost to tex : mpgraph executable : pdfetex format : cont-en inputfile : tmpgraph output : dvips interface : en options : once nomp current mode : none This is pdfeTeX, Version 3.14159-1.10b-2.1 (Web2C 7.4.5) \write18 enabled. entering extended mode (./tmpgraph.tex{/usr/share/texmf/pdftex/config/pdftex.cfg} ConTeXt ver: 2003.1.31 fmt: 2005.4.1 int: english mes: english language : language en is active system : cont-new loaded (/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/cont-new.tex systems : beware: some patches loaded from cont-new.tex! system (E-TEX) : [line 726] \ifcsname ) system : cont-old loaded (/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/cont-old.tex loading : Context Old Macros ) system : cont-fil loaded (/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/cont-fil.tex loading : Context File Synonyms ) bodyfont : 12pt rm is loaded language : patterns 2:2-en-2 3:2-uk-2 4:2-de-2 5:2-fr-2 6:2-es-2 7:2-it-2 8:2-nl-2 loaded specials : tex,postscript,rokicki loaded system : tmpgraph.top loaded (./tmpgraph.top specials : loading definition file dvi (/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/spec-dvi.tex ) specials : tex loaded specials : loading definition file ps (/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/spec-ps.tex) specials : tex,postscript loaded specials : loading definition file tr (/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/spec-tr.tex) specials : tex,postscript,rokicki loaded ) pdftex : needs map file: original-context-symbol.map pdftex : needs map file: pl0-ams-cmr.map pdftex : needs map file: original-vogel-symbol.map [1.1] systems : end file tmpgraph at line 4 ) Output written on tmpgraph.dvi (1 page, 196 bytes). Transcript written on tmpgraph.log. run time : 0 seconds dvi to metapost : mpgraph metapost : mpgraph format : metafun This is MetaPost, Version 0.641 (Web2C 7.4.5) (mpgraph.mp ) Transcript written on mpgraph.log. total run time : 0 seconds sorting and checking : running texutil TeXUtil 7.4 - ConTeXt / PRAGMA ADE 1992-2002 action : processing commands, lists and registers option : sorting IJ under Y option : converting high ASCII values input file : main.tui output file : main.tuo passed commands : 9 remapped keys : 0 register entries : 0 -> 0 entries 0 references synonym entries : 0 -> 0 entries embedded files : 1 utility file analysis : another run needed TeX run : 2 This is pdfeTeX, Version 3.14159-1.10b-2.1 (Web2C 7.4.5) \write18 enabled. entering extended mode (./main.tex{/usr/share/texmf/pdftex/config/pdftex.cfg} ConTeXt ver: 2003.1.31 fmt: 2005.4.1 int: english mes: english language : language en is active system : cont-new loaded (/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/cont-new.tex systems : beware: some patches loaded from cont-new.tex! system (E-TEX) : [line 726] \ifcsname ) system : cont-old loaded (/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/cont-old.tex loading : Context Old Macros ) system : cont-fil loaded (/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/cont-fil.tex loading : Context File Synonyms ) bodyfont : 12pt rm is loaded language : patterns 2:2-en-2 3:2-uk-2 4:2-de-2 5:2-fr-2 6:2-es-2 7:2-it-2 8:2-nl-2 loaded specials : tex,postscript,rokicki loaded system : main.top loaded (./main.top) pdftex : needs map file: original-context-symbol.map pdftex : needs map file: pl0-ams-cmr.map pdftex : needs map file: original-vogel-symbol.map specials : loading definition file tpd (/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/spec-tpd.tex specials : loading definition file fdf (/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/spec-fdf.tex system (E-TEX) : [line 1815] \ifcsname ) specials : fdf loaded ) specials : fdf,tpd loaded (./main.tuo) (./main.tuo) (./main.tuo) (./main.tuo) (./main.tuo) (./main.tuo) (./main.tuo) (./main.tuo) (./main.tuo) (./main.tuo) (./main.tuo) (./main.tuo) (./main.tuo) (./main.tuo) systems : begin file main at line 4 Randomizer initialized to 665223967. [MP mpgraph.1] [1.1] systems : end file main at line 10 [flush and process mpgraph.mp afterwards] ) Output written on main.pdf (1 page, 840 bytes). Transcript written on main.log. run time : 0 seconds generating graphics : metaposting mpgraph.mp TeXExec 3.1 - ConTeXt / PRAGMA ADE 1997-2002 metapost to tex : mpgraph executable : pdfetex format : cont-en inputfile : tmpgraph output : dvips interface : en options : once nomp current mode : none This is pdfeTeX, Version 3.14159-1.10b-2.1 (Web2C 7.4.5) \write18 enabled. entering extended mode (./tmpgraph.tex{/usr/share/texmf/pdftex/config/pdftex.cfg} ConTeXt ver: 2003.1.31 fmt: 2005.4.1 int: english mes: english language : language en is active system : cont-new loaded (/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/cont-new.tex systems : beware: some patches loaded from cont-new.tex! system (E-TEX) : [line 726] \ifcsname ) system : cont-old loaded (/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/cont-old.tex loading : Context Old Macros ) system : cont-fil loaded (/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/cont-fil.tex loading : Context File Synonyms ) bodyfont : 12pt rm is loaded language : patterns 2:2-en-2 3:2-uk-2 4:2-de-2 5:2-fr-2 6:2-es-2 7:2-it-2 8:2-nl-2 loaded specials : tex,postscript,rokicki loaded system : tmpgraph.top loaded (./tmpgraph.top specials : loading definition file dvi (/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/spec-dvi.tex ) specials : tex loaded specials : loading definition file ps (/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/spec-ps.tex) specials : tex,postscript loaded specials : loading definition file tr (/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/spec-tr.tex) specials : tex,postscript,rokicki loaded ) pdftex : needs map file: original-context-symbol.map pdftex : needs map file: pl0-ams-cmr.map pdftex : needs map file: original-vogel-symbol.map [1.1] systems : end file tmpgraph at line 4 ) Output written on tmpgraph.dvi (1 page, 196 bytes). Transcript written on tmpgraph.log. run time : 0 seconds dvi to metapost : mpgraph metapost : mpgraph format : metafun This is MetaPost, Version 0.641 (Web2C 7.4.5) (mpgraph.mp ) Transcript written on mpgraph.log. total run time : 0 seconds sorting and checking : running texutil TeXUtil 7.4 - ConTeXt / PRAGMA ADE 1992-2002 action : processing commands, lists and registers option : sorting IJ under Y option : converting high ASCII values input file : main.tui output file : main.tuo passed commands : 9 remapped keys : 0 register entries : 0 -> 0 entries 0 references synonym entries : 0 -> 0 entries embedded files : 1 total run time : 1 seconds --output-- -- JP

Hi Ciro, AFAIK chancery has no typeface associated. So you need to do that yourself \usetypescript[chancery][texnansi] \definetypeface [myfont][cg][calligraphy][chancery][default][encoding=texnansi] \setupbodyfont[myfont,cg,12pt] KR Willi Ciro Soto wrote:

When I try the commands \usetypescript, \setupbodyfont, etc,etc I can't find the right combination of switches to make use of the Zapf Chancery or Garamond fonts. All other fonts work find (bookman, modern, palatino, etc).

I am using Linux/fedoraCore3, texlive2004, and: TeXExec 5.2.4 - ConTeXt / PRAGMA ADE 1997-2005 texexec : TeXExec 5.2.4 - ConTeXt / PRAGMA ADE 1997-2005 texutil : TeXUtil 9.0.0 - ConTeXt / PRAGMA ADE 1992-2004 tex : pdfeTeXk, 3.141592-1.20a-2.2 (Web2C 7.5.3) context : ver: 2005.01.31 cont-en : ver: 2005.01.31 fmt: 2005.2.28 mes: english

Please don't ask me to read the manuals, I've read them, but still ... thank you... Ciro _______________________________________________ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context

On Sat, 2 Apr 2005 13:29:16 -0500, Ciro Soto wrote:

Idris solution didn't work. I got: TeXFont 2.2.1 - ConTeXt / PRAGMA ADE 2000-2004 processing aborted : unknown tex root

Don't know if this is related to your own installation but I get this kind of message if I do not setuptex c:\<your context tex_root> before running the utilities. Did you get Garamond working? Where is it? At least things are working now:-) Best Idris -- Professor Idris Samawi Hamid Department of Philosophy Colorado State University Fort Collins, CO 80523

Ciro Soto said this at Sat, 2 Apr 2005 15:00:32 -0500:

Concerning Garamond, I see bunch of files in my system: ls ./texmf-local/fonts/afm/urw/garamond/ ugmri8a.afm ugmr8a.afm ugmmi8a.afm ugmm8a.afm

The key question is whether you have the fonts/type1/urw/garamond directory with .pfb files in it, as these are the URW garamond fonts, you probably do have them. However, you probably need to load the map file [ugm.map], and use the right typescript. As the only one in ConTeXt is for the FontSite500 garamond, that needs to be added. There's a quickie at the end of the message. And Idris, it's here: http://www.ctan.org/tex-archive/fonts/urw/garamond/ \starttypescript[serif][garamond][ec] \definefontsynonym[Garamond] [ugmr8t] [encoding=ec] \definefontsynonym[GaramondItalic] [ugmri8t][encoding=ec] \definefontsynonym[GaramondBold] [ugmm8t] [encoding=ec] \definefontsynonym[GaramondBoldItalic][ugmmi8t][encoding=ec] \stoptypescript \starttypescript[serif][garamond][name] \setups[font:fallback:serif] \definefontsynonym[Serif] [Garamond] \definefontsynonym[SerifItalic] [GaramondItalic] \definefontsynonym[SerifBold] [GaramondBold] \definefontsynonym[SerifBoldItalic][GaramondBoldItalic] \stoptypescript Activate with: \definetypeface[myface][rm][serif][garamond][default][encoding=ec] \setupbodyfont[myface] (untested, but hopefully you get the idea...) adam -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Adam T. Lindsay, Computing Dept. atl@comp.lancs.ac.uk Lancaster University, InfoLab21 +44(0)1524/510.514 Lancaster, LA1 4WA, UK Fax:+44(0)1524/510.492 -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-

Hi Ciro, I completely agree. Context works fine but, like you, I have not succeeded in installing any new font thusfar. A few months ago I tried again with a very simple font, which I got working under Latex, but not under Context, despite all my attempts and suggestions from other subscribers: alas! Two years ago I recoded a cyrillic font under Latex, that contains special characters not available in other fonts, therefore I guess I know how the TeX font mechanism works. I achieved that by carefully reading all kinds of manuals available on the net. For the time being I manage with Context with the standard fonts & Palatino, waiting for a breakthrough of some kind: the golden tip! Kind regards, Robert Ciro Soto wrote:

...

(untested, but hopefully you get the idea...)

adam

unfortunately, I have a mental mess with the font business in tex. How can one keep track with so many directories, encodings, file types, maps, etc... I am tired of trying to undestand. Manuals are useless because they are outdated, trees are changed and need texhash, plus, on top, one needs to learn the syntax for Context to use fonts. I've been spending days trying to install a verdana font, and no matter what I do, it doesnt' work, and I think the same is happening with the garamond. I have no lesss than 3000 font files in my computer, but so far, only a handful are available in context. At this point, I really wish I had a graphical tool to install and use a font, without going through all the --always changing-- steps... I guess, some day, someone will clear this up for once...

ciro Ciro _______________________________________________ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context

My problem goes beyond fonts. What I think I need is a simple explanation of the TeX-like package system. For instance: I see tetex,pdftex,contex, latex,web2c,...and so on, but I don't understand their interrelation/dependency. Why the livetex tree is like it is? What is needed for a context user? What are the steps to upgrade context with a cont-tmf.zip and a texlive2004? Would it be possible to create an shell script that automize all this? Where are fonts registered/stored/mapped/encoded? Most books on TeX,latex, etc, only explain how to use them, but not the 'system administration' part, which must of us have to learn as well. BTW, I used Idris instructions (without step4 because my texfont works) and I have installed three different fonts so far. Actually, I converted TTF fonts to pfb/afm, then used the Idris steps, and I am happy. Now I hace to learn how to build typescript files, and learn where to put them, and the mapping/encoding business. regards Ciro On Apr 3, 2005 10:57 AM, Adam Lindsay wrote:

Rob Ermers said this at Sun, 3 Apr 2005 16:03:24 +0200:

...

I completely agree. Context works fine but, like you, I have not succeeded in installing any new font thusfar.

Okay, I get the message: there are quite a few frustrated would-be font users out there. I see it as being something that someone can understand (and explain) fairly well in the abstract, but the details throw up distribution-specific problems.

So, because it's the only area I can hope to fix, are there any Mac users out there (gwTeX) that are (still) frustrated with fonts in the way that Rob and Ciro are?

For those Mac users, is it a matter of using pre-installed fonts (Palatino, Helvetica, etc.), or installing your own fonts that is so frustrating? -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Adam T. Lindsay, Computing Dept. atl@comp.lancs.ac.uk Lancaster University, InfoLab21 +44(0)1524/510.514 Lancaster, LA1 4WA, UK Fax:+44(0)1524/510.492 -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-

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