Hi Wolfgang, Otared and others, I installed a new standalone: mtx-context | main context file: /Applications/ContextStandalone/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/mkiv/context.mkiv mtx-context | current version: 2018.02.06 18:11 However, I do not manage to get it going. The minimal example underneath gives the following result: 1. item 1 a. subitem a, reference a b. item b c. Item c, reference c 2. Item 2, reference 2 See Item b, 2, 1 above. This should be: See Item 1b, 2, 1 above. Regards, Robert \starttext \startitemize[n]\starttext \startitemize[n] \item [ref:1] item 1 \startitemize[a] \startitem[ref:a] subitem a, reference a \stopitem \item [ref:b] item b \startitem[ref:c] Item c, reference c \stopitem \stopitemize \startitem[ref:2] Item 2, reference 2 \stopitem \stopitemize See \in{Item}[ref:b], \in[ref:2], \in[ref:1] above. \stoptext

Op 7 feb. 2018, om 11:03 heeft Wolfgang Schuster het volgende geschreven:

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r.ermers@hccnet.nl mailto:r.ermers@hccnet.nl 7. Februar 2018 um 10:58 Hi Otared,

Thanks for your response. In mkii this worked flawlessly.

I tried it in mkiv Texlive too (2017.05.15 21:48), but it does not work. Could this be because I have item [it:ref] rather than \startitem[it:ref] … \stopitem?

It works for me with \item[<reference>] and \startitem[<reference>].

$ context --version

mtx-context | current version: 2018.02.06 18:11

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Hi Otared, Thanks, the solution works to some extend. It yields the following output. 1. item 1 1.a. subitem a, reference a 1.b. item b 1.b.i. A sub-sub item 1.b.ii. Another sub-sub item, B 1.c. Item c, reference c 2. Item 2, reference 2 See Item 1.b, see also items 2 and 1 above, as well as the sub-sub item 1.b.ii. Yet the output I am looking for, and which I had in mkii, is: 1. item 1 a. subitem a, reference a b. item b i. A sub-sub item ii. Another sub-sub item, B 1.c. Item c, reference c 2. Item 2, reference 2 See Item 1.b / 1b, see also items 2 and 1 above, as well as the sub-sub item 1.b.ii / 1bii. Is this possible? Regards, Robert

Op 7 feb. 2018, om 12:37 heeft Otared Kavian het volgende geschreven:

Hi Robert,

I think the issue does not come from the version of Context you are using but rather from a lack of formatting your itemgroups with the keyword « repeat ».

I guess what you want to obtain can be achieved with the following example below. At least here with either versions of Context I have the output is as expected.

Best regards: OK

%% begin repeat-subitem.tex \setupitemgroup[itemize][1][n,repeat][width=1em] \setupitemgroup[itemize][2][a,repeat][width=2em] \setupitemgroup[itemize][3][r][width=3em]

\starttext

\startitemize[n] \item[ref:1] item 1 \startitemize \startitem[ref:a] subitem a, reference a \stopitem \item [ref:b] item b \startitemize \item A sub-sub item \item[ref:subsub-B] Another sub-sub item, B \stopitemize \startitem[ref:c] Item c, reference c \stopitem \stopitemize \startitem[ref:2] Item 2, reference 2 \stopitem

\stopitemize \blank[big]

See \in{Item}[ref:b], see also items \in[ref:2] and \in[ref:1] above, as well as the \in{sub-sub item}[ref:subsub-B].

\stoptext %% end repeat-subitem.tex

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On 7 Feb 2018, at 11:46, r.ermers@hccnet.nl mailto:r.ermers@hccnet.nl wrote:

Hi Wolfgang, Otared and others,

I installed a new standalone:

mtx-context | main context file: /Applications/ContextStandalone/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/mkiv/context.mkiv mtx-context | current version: 2018.02.06 18:11

However, I do not manage to get it going. The minimal example underneath gives the following result: 1. item 1 a. subitem a, reference a

b. item b

c. Item c, reference c

2. Item 2, reference 2

See Item b, 2, 1 above.

This should be:

See Item 1b, 2, 1 above.

Regards,

Robert

\starttext

\startitemize[n]\starttext

\startitemize[n] \item [ref:1] item 1 \startitemize[a] \startitem[ref:a] subitem a, reference a \stopitem \item [ref:b] item b \startitem[ref:c] Item c, reference c \stopitem \stopitemize \startitem[ref:2] Item 2, reference 2 \stopitem \stopitemize

See \in{Item}[ref:b], \in[ref:2], \in[ref:1] above.

\stoptext

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Op 7 feb. 2018, om 11:03 heeft Wolfgang Schuster mailto:schuster.wolfgang@gmail.com> het volgende geschreven:

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r.ermers@hccnet.nl mailto:r.ermers@hccnet.nl 7. Februar 2018 um 10:58 Hi Otared,

Thanks for your response. In mkii this worked flawlessly.

I tried it in mkiv Texlive too (2017.05.15 21:48), but it does not work. Could this be because I have item [it:ref] rather than \startitem[it:ref] … \stopitem?

It works for me with \item[<reference>] and \startitem[<reference>].

$ context --version

mtx-context | current version: 2018.02.06 18:11

Wolfgang ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki!

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Hi Robert, Again I answered too quickly… excuse-me! If you want to have the subitems appear without the prefix, but references to them contain the number of the item where they appear, I don’t know how to do it. My previous message addresses only the separators between the numbers of the items and subitems. Sorry… but my belief is that in ConTeXt everything is possible, even if I don’t know how to do it :-) Best regards: OK

On 7 Feb 2018, at 12:56, r.ermers@hccnet.nl wrote:

Hi Otared,

Thanks, the solution works to some extend. It yields the following output.

1. item 1

1.a. subitem a, reference a

1.b. item b

1.b.i. A sub-sub item

1.b.ii. Another sub-sub item, B 1.c. Item c, reference c

2. Item 2, reference 2

See Item 1.b, see also items 2 and 1 above, as well as the sub-sub item 1.b.ii.

Yet the output I am looking for, and which I had in mkii, is: 1. item 1

a. subitem a, reference a

b. item b

i. A sub-sub item

ii. Another sub-sub item, B 1.c. Item c, reference c

2. Item 2, reference 2

See Item 1.b / 1b, see also items 2 and 1 above, as well as the sub-sub item 1.b.ii / 1bii.

Is this possible?

Regards,

Robert

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Op 7 feb. 2018, om 12:37 heeft Otared Kavian mailto:otared@gmail.com> het volgende geschreven:

Hi Robert,

I think the issue does not come from the version of Context you are using but rather from a lack of formatting your itemgroups with the keyword « repeat ».

I guess what you want to obtain can be achieved with the following example below. At least here with either versions of Context I have the output is as expected.

Best regards: OK

%% begin repeat-subitem.tex \setupitemgroup[itemize][1][n,repeat][width=1em] \setupitemgroup[itemize][2][a,repeat][width=2em] \setupitemgroup[itemize][3][r][width=3em]

\starttext

\startitemize[n] \item[ref:1] item 1 \startitemize \startitem[ref:a] subitem a, reference a \stopitem \item [ref:b] item b \startitemize \item A sub-sub item \item[ref:subsub-B] Another sub-sub item, B \stopitemize \startitem[ref:c] Item c, reference c \stopitem \stopitemize \startitem[ref:2] Item 2, reference 2 \stopitem

\stopitemize \blank[big]

See \in{Item}[ref:b], see also items \in[ref:2] and \in[ref:1] above, as well as the \in{sub-sub item}[ref:subsub-B].

\stoptext %% end repeat-subitem.tex

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On 7 Feb 2018, at 11:46, r.ermers@hccnet.nl mailto:r.ermers@hccnet.nl wrote:

Hi Wolfgang, Otared and others,

I installed a new standalone:

mtx-context | main context file: /Applications/ContextStandalone/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/mkiv/context.mkiv mtx-context | current version: 2018.02.06 18:11

However, I do not manage to get it going. The minimal example underneath gives the following result: 1. item 1 a. subitem a, reference a

b. item b

c. Item c, reference c

2. Item 2, reference 2

See Item b, 2, 1 above.

This should be:

See Item 1b, 2, 1 above.

Regards,

Robert

\starttext

\startitemize[n]\starttext

\startitemize[n] \item [ref:1] item 1 \startitemize[a] \startitem[ref:a] subitem a, reference a \stopitem \item [ref:b] item b \startitem[ref:c] Item c, reference c \stopitem \stopitemize \startitem[ref:2] Item 2, reference 2 \stopitem \stopitemize

See \in{Item}[ref:b], \in[ref:2], \in[ref:1] above.

\stoptext

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Op 7 feb. 2018, om 11:03 heeft Wolfgang Schuster mailto:schuster.wolfgang@gmail.com> het volgende geschreven:

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r.ermers@hccnet.nl mailto:r.ermers@hccnet.nl 7. Februar 2018 um 10:58 Hi Otared,

Thanks for your response. In mkii this worked flawlessly.

I tried it in mkiv Texlive too (2017.05.15 21:48), but it does not work. Could this be because I have item [it:ref] rather than \startitem[it:ref] … \stopitem?

It works for me with \item[<reference>] and \startitem[<reference>].

$ context --version

mtx-context | current version: 2018.02.06 18:11

Wolfgang ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki!

maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl mailto:ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl http://www.pragma-ade.nl/ / http://context.aanhet.net http://context.aanhet.net/ archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net http://contextgarden.net/ ___________________________________________________________________________________

___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki!

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Hi all, I kindly ask for your attention for this problem again. I would like subitems to appear differently in the reference than they are in the listing: 1. item 1 a. subitem a, reference a b. item b c. Item c, reference c 2. Item 2, reference 2 See Item b, 2, 1 above. See Item b, 2, 1 above. ------ Desired result: See item 1b., 2 1 above. This is possible in mkii, but not in mkiv it seems. Does anyone know how to achieve this? Robert A minimal example to play with: %\setupitemgroup[itemize][1][n,repeat][width=1em] %\setupitemgroup[itemize][2][a,repeat][width=2em] %\setupitemgroup[itemize][3][r][width=3em] \starttext \startitemize[n] \item [ref:1] item 1 \startitemize[a] \startitem[ref:a] subitem a, reference a \stopitem \item [ref:b] item b \startitem[ref:c] Item c, reference c \stopitem \stopitemize \item[ref:2] Item 2, reference 2 \stopitem \stopitemize See \in{Item}[ref:b], \in[ref:2], \in[ref:1] above.

Op 7 feb. 2018, om 14:53 heeft Otared Kavian mailto:otared@gmail.com> het volgende geschreven:

Hi Robert,

Again I answered too quickly… excuse-me! If you want to have the subitems appear without the prefix, but references to them contain the number of the item where they appear, I don’t know how to do it. My previous message addresses only the separators between the numbers of the items and subitems. Sorry… but my belief is that in ConTeXt everything is possible, even if I don’t know how to do it :-)

Best regards: OK

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On 7 Feb 2018, at 12:56, r.ermers@hccnet.nl mailto:r.ermers@hccnet.nl wrote:

Hi Otared,

Thanks, the solution works to some extend. It yields the following output.

1. item 1

1.a. subitem a, reference a

1.b. item b

1.b.i. A sub-sub item

1.b.ii. Another sub-sub item, B 1.c. Item c, reference c

2. Item 2, reference 2

See Item 1.b, see also items 2 and 1 above, as well as the sub-sub item 1.b.ii.

Yet the output I am looking for, and which I had in mkii, is: 1. item 1

a. subitem a, reference a

b. item b

i. A sub-sub item

ii. Another sub-sub item, B 1.c. Item c, reference c

2. Item 2, reference 2

See Item 1.b / 1b, see also items 2 and 1 above, as well as the sub-sub item 1.b.ii / 1bii.

Is this possible?

Regards,

Robert

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Op 7 feb. 2018, om 12:37 heeft Otared Kavian mailto:otared@gmail.com> het volgende geschreven:

Hi Robert,

I think the issue does not come from the version of Context you are using but rather from a lack of formatting your itemgroups with the keyword « repeat ».

I guess what you want to obtain can be achieved with the following example below. At least here with either versions of Context I have the output is as expected.

Best regards: OK

%% begin repeat-subitem.tex \setupitemgroup[itemize][1][n,repeat][width=1em] \setupitemgroup[itemize][2][a,repeat][width=2em] \setupitemgroup[itemize][3][r][width=3em]

\starttext

\startitemize[n] \item[ref:1] item 1 \startitemize \startitem[ref:a] subitem a, reference a \stopitem \item [ref:b] item b \startitemize \item A sub-sub item \item[ref:subsub-B] Another sub-sub item, B \stopitemize \startitem[ref:c] Item c, reference c \stopitem \stopitemize \startitem[ref:2] Item 2, reference 2 \stopitem

\stopitemize \blank[big]

See \in{Item}[ref:b], see also items \in[ref:2] and \in[ref:1] above, as well as the \in{sub-sub item}[ref:subsub-B].

\stoptext %% end repeat-subitem.tex

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On 7 Feb 2018, at 11:46, r.ermers@hccnet.nl mailto:r.ermers@hccnet.nl wrote:

Hi Wolfgang, Otared and others,

I installed a new standalone:

mtx-context | main context file: /Applications/ContextStandalone/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/mkiv/context.mkiv mtx-context | current version: 2018.02.06 18:11

However, I do not manage to get it going. The minimal example underneath gives the following result: 1. item 1 a. subitem a, reference a

b. item b

c. Item c, reference c

2. Item 2, reference 2

See Item b, 2, 1 above.

This should be:

See Item 1b, 2, 1 above.

Regards,

Robert

\starttext

\startitemize[n]\starttext

\startitemize[n] \item [ref:1] item 1 \startitemize[a] \startitem[ref:a] subitem a, reference a \stopitem \item [ref:b] item b \startitem[ref:c] Item c, reference c \stopitem \stopitemize \startitem[ref:2] Item 2, reference 2 \stopitem \stopitemize

See \in{Item}[ref:b], \in[ref:2], \in[ref:1] above.

\stoptext

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Op 7 feb. 2018, om 11:03 heeft Wolfgang Schuster mailto:schuster.wolfgang@gmail.com> het volgende geschreven:

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r.ermers@hccnet.nl mailto:r.ermers@hccnet.nl 7. Februar 2018 um 10:58 Hi Otared,

Thanks for your response. In mkii this worked flawlessly.

I tried it in mkiv Texlive too (2017.05.15 21:48), but it does not work. Could this be because I have item [it:ref] rather than \startitem[it:ref] … \stopitem?

It works for me with \item[<reference>] and \startitem[<reference>].

$ context --version

mtx-context | current version: 2018.02.06 18:11

Wolfgang ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki!

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