Dear list, investigating the issue of why Acrobat Reader DC doesn’t recognize ConTeXt signatures, I related it to another issue. I use Acrobat Reader DC for Windows at work. DC is regularly updated. Since a year ago or so, if I open a PDF document (opening Acrobat with the document) and double-click (sometimes, it may be triple-click) too fast on a link or a signature field (either to be signed or already signed), Acrobat Reader crashes. I have tested sample documents on other computers and with other people and everybody told me Reader crashed. BTW, the document structure is perfectly fine (according to the Arlington PDF model from the PDF specification). I thought Acrobat Reader DC changed something and this was buggy. I have been consistently experiencing this issue for about a year, so I took for granted it was a common bug. I experienced the crash only with the Spanish version (the one installed on all tested computers). Although I sometimes I load the English version by pressing Ctrl when starting Acrobat, right now I cannot say whether I experienced the crash with the English version loaded. But this seemed to be not enough, since I have just found out that Acrobat Reader for Windows and macOS with the US English version may not crash (I was told). The sample document contains only a link. It has generated from the following source: \setupinteraction[state=start] \starttext \startTEXpage[offset=1dk] \protected\define[1]\myurl% {{\tt\goto{\hyphenatedurl{#1}}[url(#1)]}} \myurl{https://contextgarden.net} \stopTEXpage \stoptext Sorry for asking for this, but would you be so kind to compile (or download the attachment) and open it with an updated Acrobat (opening Acrobat with the document)? I need that you double (or triple) click on the link (to the Garden) as fast as you can. Either if this crashes Acrobat or not, I would really appreciate if you could tell me which is your OS and language version of Acrobat. I’m affraid I cannot tell yet what may be triggering the crash, but I view PDF in Windows with SumatraPDF. When I open them with Acrobat and click on any kind of link too fast, I get back to SumatraPDF (since Acrobat crashed and dissapeared). Excuse for what it seems to be a tricky issue with Acrobat (the signature being way more important than the crash 😅). Many thanks for your help in advance, Pablo
Am 25.06.24 um 22:24 schrieb Pablo Rodriguez via ntg-context:
Sorry for asking for this, but would you be so kind to compile (or download the attachment) and open it with an updated Acrobat (opening Acrobat with the document)?
I need that you double (or triple) click on the link (to the Garden) as fast as you can.
Hi Pablo, MacOS 10.15 with Acrobat Reader 2024.002 (Build: 24.2.20857.0) first time, Acrobat asks for permission to open the link, after that I can klick as often as I like, and it opens the website for every klick (i.e. twice for a doubleclick). No crashes so far. Same behavior if I compile the code myself. I experience frequent crashes of Acrobat Reader when I work with annotations (correction workflow), but that’s a different problem. Hraban
On 6/26/24 08:13, Henning Hraban Ramm wrote:
Am 25.06.24 um 22:24 schrieb Pablo Rodriguez via ntg-context:
Sorry for asking for this, but would you be so kind to compile (or download the attachment) and open it with an updated Acrobat (opening Acrobat with the document)?
I need that you double (or triple) click on the link (to the Garden) as fast as you can.
Hi Pablo,
MacOS 10.15 with Acrobat Reader 2024.002 (Build: 24.2.20857.0)
Hi Hraban, many thanks for your reply, it helps me a lot.
first time, Acrobat asks for permission to open the link, after that I can klick as often as I like, and it opens the website for every klick (i.e. twice for a doubleclick). No crashes so far.
If it asks for permission, it is working fine. It might be (a wild guess, since I don’t have access to macOS system) that the issue only happens with Windows computers. BTW, I have just consistenly experienced it on another Windows computer.
I experience frequent crashes of Acrobat Reader when I work with annotations (correction workflow), but that’s a different problem.
I see. I would really like to have at least a message from the command line (command prompt [as I guess Windows calls it]), so it might point to the cause of the crash. Again, many thanks for your help, Pablo
On 26 Jun 2024, at 18:01, Pablo Rodriguez via ntg-context
wrote: If it asks for permission, it is working fine.
It might be (a wild guess, since I don’t have access to macOS system) that the issue only happens with Windows computers.
BTW, I have just consistenly experienced it on another Windows computer.
On my Mac it did not crash, but that is a Reader from 2021 that I am not willing to upgrade so I am not sure how useful that information is. I also installed a new Reader on my Windows 11 machine, and that one worked ok as well. It says “Continuous Release | Version 2024.002.20857 | 64 bit”, and it is the Win 11 specific EN (US) version. Best wishes, Taco
On 6/27/2024 10:03 AM, Taco Hoekwater wrote:
On 26 Jun 2024, at 18:01, Pablo Rodriguez via ntg-context
wrote: If it asks for permission, it is working fine.
It might be (a wild guess, since I don’t have access to macOS system) that the issue only happens with Windows computers.
BTW, I have just consistenly experienced it on another Windows computer.
On my Mac it did not crash, but that is a Reader from 2021 that I am not willing to upgrade so I am not sure how useful that information is.
I also installed a new Reader on my Windows 11 machine, and that one worked ok as well. It says “Continuous Release | Version 2024.002.20857 | 64 bit”, and it is the Win 11 specific EN (US) version.
it also opens here after asking of that link is okay (same version) anyway, i noticed that the (messier by the day) user interface now offers "AI assistent, full access" and "Generative Summary, full acess" as well as some button in the top right corner with a weird attention seeking coloring os maybe i should remove rader or at least start thinking about quarantaining it in itrs own vm, one never knows (it's a bit frightening to see what something as simple as pdf is turning into: ecosystems, dependencies, business models, hypes, etc) Hans ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | www.pragma-ade.nl | www.pragma-pod.nl -----------------------------------------------------------------
On 6/27/24 14:04, Hans Hagen via ntg-context wrote:
On 6/27/2024 10:03 AM, Taco Hoekwater wrote:
[...] I also installed a new Reader on my Windows 11 machine, and that one worked ok as well. It says “Continuous Release | Version 2024.002.20857 | 64 bit”, and it is the Win 11 specific EN (US) version.> it also opens here after asking of that link is okay (same version)
Many thanks for your reply, Hans. It seems that the crash only happens to me.
anyway, i noticed that the (messier by the day) user interface now offers "AI assistent, full access" and "Generative Summary, full acess" as well as some button in the top right corner with a weird attention seeking coloring os maybe i should remove reader or at least start thinking about quarantaining it in itrs own vm, one never knows
At least the Spanish version doesn’t have that (yet, I’m afraid).
(it's a bit frightening to see what something as simple as pdf is turning into: ecosystems, dependencies, business models, hypes, etc)
I think this is the whole thing with AI, the vast majority of people may not be benefiting from it. Many thanks for your help, Pablo
On 6/27/24 10:03, Taco Hoekwater wrote:
[...] On my Mac it did not crash, but that is a Reader from 2021 that I am not willing to upgrade so I am not sure how useful that information is. Many thanks for your reply, Taco.
I suspect that macOS may not be affected by this issue.
I also installed a new Reader on my Windows 11 machine, and that one worked ok as well. It says “Continuous Release | Version 2024.002.20857 | 64 bit”, and it is the Win 11 specific EN (US) version.
Well, I would like to know why my case (and other people I asked) is different. Both Windows and Acrobat Reader in Spanish? Many thanks for your help, Pablo
participants (4)
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Hans Hagen
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Henning Hraban Ramm
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Pablo Rodriguez
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Taco Hoekwater