On 6/11/07, Aditya Mahajan wrote:

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Reading the Wiki one of those solutions would be XML,

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On Mon, 11 Jun 2007, John R. Culleton wrote:

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On Sun, 10 Jun 2007, Pepe Barbe wrote:

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Hello,

I have used ConTeXt in the past and I have been very pleased with it and the results obtained, much more than LaTeX.

Now I am looking into a solution that would allow me to layout the content ConTeXt and in other formats that ConTeXt does not (Forgive my ignorance, if I am wrong) output, like HTML, Plain Text, or RTF (Those are the formats that I can think of that are interesting to me currently).

I don't think it is possible to come up with an "universal elixir"

On Sunday 10 June 2007 23:49, Aditya Mahajan wrote: that does any format from source and is efficient to use. Plain text is the exchange medium I use. XML is too cumbersome to code by hand. Therefore I have solutions for specific situations. For example when a customer presents me with a non-fiction document already laid out in MSWord, I first save it as rtf. Then I run it through the program rtf2latex2e. This gives me an executable LaTeX file, with all the font changes etc. preserved. The I edit it in Gvim, using mass changes to convert LaTeX tags to an equivalent Context format. Some, like all the begin/end tags I just delete en masse.

This approach is fine if you have to convert only once. However, if you want to occassionally update the sources and get an updated html and pdf output, it can be too much work. For situations like this, I think that, at least for just text + graphics, xml is the most robust way. Of course, there are also plain text markup formats, like wiki markup, restructured text, textile, etc. If the document is really simple, they may be easier to use. There are many plain text markup to LaTeX convertor, but no plain text to ConTeXt convertor that I know of. I remember there was someone on the list who had written scripts to convert wiki markup into context and then to pdf. I do not know if these scripts are publically available. Aditya

Hi Thomas, On Mon, 11 Jun 2007, Thomas A. Schmitz wrote:

On Jun 11, 2007, at 5:49 AM, Aditya Mahajan wrote:

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Some of the difficulties that I faced with simple documents was:

1. What is the xml equivalent of || 2. What is the xml equivalent of ~ (  ??) 3. What is the xml equivalent of

\abbreviation {EECS} {Electrical Engineering and Computer Science} and then \EECS\ and \infull{EECS}.

Hi Aditya,

I've just begun experimenting with xlm (because, as Duncan has pointed out, I'm sure that every line I write is for eternity...). Anyway, what I say here may be totally wrong, but here's how I treat this stuff:

1. For || or |-|, I have defined an entity in my DTD:

<!ENTITY conthyph "-">

In my environment for processing the xml files, I have

\defineXMLentity[conthyph]{|-|}

so I can write context&conthyph;specific and get the output I expect.

2. Yes, I use   with these definitions: <!ENTITY nbsp "&#x000A0;"> \defineXMLentity[nbsp]{~}

Ah. Thanks. This was easy :)

3. Abbreviations: does xtag-ent.tex do what you want?

Not sure if this is what you're looking for, but it does appear to work for me.

Hmm... somehome I had missed xtag-ent.tex. I was looking at xml introductions, and did not look into ConTeXt sources. I will have a look and see how it goes. Thanks, Aditya

Quoting Wolfgang Schuster :

2007/6/11, Aditya Mahajan :

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Hmm... somehome I had missed xtag-ent.tex. I was looking at xml introductions, and did not look into ConTeXt sources. I will have a look and see how it goes.

Thanks, Aditya

Hi Aditya,

the XML-Document example.pdf is a little bit outdated (Hans changed a few commands). The important files for xml are xtag-ini and xtag-ext, you should take a look into the contml module.

Thanks. I had not looked at them and some of the things about handling at the ConTeXt end are more clear now. But I think that I did not explain my question correctly. What I do not understand how are abbreviations etc. handled by xslt for conversion into html. For example, how do I write an xsl style sheet that converts this xml input <p> I study <abbrev value="EECS"> which stands for </p> into html as <p> I study EECS which stands for Electrical Engineering and Computer Science </p> I know that this is not the right list to ask this sort of questions, but I am hoping that there are xml users here and they will be able to point me to the right direction. Thanks, Aditya

Quoting nico :

On Mon, 11 Jun 2007 11:42:23 -0400, Aditya Mahajan wrote:

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Thanks. I had not looked at them and some of the things about handling at the ConTeXt end are more clear now. But I think that I did not explain my question correctly.

What I do not understand how are abbreviations etc. handled by xslt for conversion into html. For example, how do I write an xsl style sheet that converts this xml input

<p> I study <abbrev value="EECS"> which stands for </p>

into html as

<p> I study EECS which stands for Electrical Engineering and Computer Science </p>

I know that this is not the right list to ask this sort of questions, but I am hoping that there are xml users here and they will be able to point me to the right direction.

I haven't followed the thread, but attached an idea of doing what you want with XSLT. Note that your example is not valid at all (commas between attributes, missing ending '/' for empty elements).

Thank you. This is exactly what I wanted. I will now go back to using xml for simple documents and see how things go.

BTW, it's not a good idea to use the same attribute ("value") as an reference identifier, and for referencing to another element.

Ok. I will keep this in mind. Thanks, Aditya