two superscript versions with Garamond Libre
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Dear list, I’m accesing superscript glyphs for Garamond Libre with the OT feature and the character with the following sample: \definefontfeature[sups][script=latn, sups=yes] \definefontfamily[twoface][rm][GaramondLibre] \definefontfamily[mainface][rm][EB Garamond 12] \setupbodyfont[mainface] \starttext \startTEXpage[offset=1ex] {\feature[+][sups]1}¹{\feature[+][sups]2}²{\feature[+][sups]3}³% {\feature[+][sups]8}⁸{\feature[+][sups]9}⁹{\feature[+][sups]0}⁰\\ \setupbodyfont[twoface] {\feature[+][sups]1}¹{\feature[+][sups]2}²{\feature[+][sups]3}³% {\feature[+][sups]8}⁸{\feature[+][sups]9}⁹{\feature[+][sups]0}⁰\\ \stopTEXpage \stoptext Typeface is available at https://github.com/dbenjaminmiller/garamond-libre/releases/latest. Sorry, but I’m a bit thick now. Does anyone know why characters and OT sups provide differently sized glyphs? I think there might be a bug in the typeface, but I need to know first what to report. Many thanks for your help, Pablo -- http://www.ousia.tk
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On 5/18/2020 5:18 PM, Pablo Rodriguez wrote:
Dear list,
I’m accesing superscript glyphs for Garamond Libre with the OT feature and the character with the following sample:
\definefontfeature[sups][script=latn, sups=yes] \definefontfamily[twoface][rm][GaramondLibre] \definefontfamily[mainface][rm][EB Garamond 12] \setupbodyfont[mainface] \starttext \startTEXpage[offset=1ex] {\feature[+][sups]1}¹{\feature[+][sups]2}²{\feature[+][sups]3}³% {\feature[+][sups]8}⁸{\feature[+][sups]9}⁹{\feature[+][sups]0}⁰\\ \setupbodyfont[twoface] {\feature[+][sups]1}¹{\feature[+][sups]2}²{\feature[+][sups]3}³% {\feature[+][sups]8}⁸{\feature[+][sups]9}⁹{\feature[+][sups]0}⁰\\ \stopTEXpage \stoptext
Typeface is available at https://github.com/dbenjaminmiller/garamond-libre/releases/latest.
Sorry, but I’m a bit thick now. Does anyone know why characters and OT sups provide differently sized glyphs?
I think there might be a bug in the typeface, but I need to know first what to report. designers decisions ... i guess ... features are just tags and afaik nothing really prescribes how to implement them (relative to each other)
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On 5/18/20 6:13 PM, Hans Hagen wrote:
On 5/18/2020 5:18 PM, Pablo Rodriguez wrote:
[...] Sorry, but I’m a bit thick now. Does anyone know why characters and OT sups provide differently sized glyphs?
I think there might be a bug in the typeface, but I need to know first what to report. designers decisions ... i guess ... features are just tags and afaik nothing really prescribes how to implement them (relative to each other)
Many thanks for your reply, Hans. I see now that there are two series of “superscripts” (numr and sups). The Unicode superscript use the OpenType numerator glyphs. Many thanks for your help, Pablo -- http://www.ousia.tk
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Am 18.05.2020 um 17:18 schrieb Pablo Rodriguez
: Typeface is available at https://github.com/dbenjaminmiller/garamond-libre/releases/latest.
Thank you for the hint, I’m always looking for interesting fonts. This is a nicely designed classical Garamond with a big glyph repertoire (Latin, poly Greek, Cyrillic, Byzantine/Greek music symbols, math and other symbols), but after first tests I found flaws: – Numbers are a bit too dark; table numbers look a bit too big, oldstyle numbers a bit too small. – Small caps are lacking accented vowels including umlauts. – Cyrillic is missing Kyrgyz/Kazakh letters (i.e. Cyrillic extended). – Kerning is not yet perfect. – Accents sit a bit too close on the letters. – Swash capitals don’t fit the style at all, they look like some modern hand font like Lucida Handwriting. Best, Hraban
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Am 18.05.20 um 22:23 schrieb Henning Hraban Ramm:
Am 18.05.2020 um 17:18 schrieb Pablo Rodriguez
: Typeface is available at https://github.com/dbenjaminmiller/garamond-libre/releases/latest.
Thank you for the hint, I’m always looking for interesting fonts. This is a nicely designed classical Garamond with a big glyph repertoire (Latin, poly Greek, Cyrillic, Byzantine/Greek music symbols, math and other symbols), but after first tests I found flaws: – Numbers are a bit too dark; table numbers look a bit too big, oldstyle numbers a bit too small. – Small caps are lacking accented vowels including umlauts. – Cyrillic is missing Kyrgyz/Kazakh letters (i.e. Cyrillic extended). – Kerning is not yet perfect. – Accents sit a bit too close on the letters. – Swash capitals don’t fit the style at all, they look like some modern hand font like Lucida Handwriting.
Thanks a lot for your insights.
From the repo I guess that this is a quite new project; you could post bug reports.
juh
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Am 19.05.2020 um 08:08 schrieb Jan U. Hasecke
: Am 18.05.20 um 22:23 schrieb Henning Hraban Ramm:
Am 18.05.2020 um 17:18 schrieb Pablo Rodriguez
: Typeface is available at https://github.com/dbenjaminmiller/garamond-libre/releases/latest.
Thank you for the hint, I’m always looking for interesting fonts. This is a nicely designed classical Garamond with a big glyph repertoire (Latin, poly Greek, Cyrillic, Byzantine/Greek music symbols, math and other symbols), but after first tests I found flaws: – Numbers are a bit too dark; table numbers look a bit too big, oldstyle numbers a bit too small. – Small caps are lacking accented vowels including umlauts. – Cyrillic is missing Kyrgyz/Kazakh letters (i.e. Cyrillic extended). – Kerning is not yet perfect. – Accents sit a bit too close on the letters. – Swash capitals don’t fit the style at all, they look like some modern hand font like Lucida Handwriting.
Thanks a lot for your insights.
From the repo I guess that this is a quite new project; you could post bug reports.
That’s what I did. WRT swash capitals, the author told me: \startquotation I adopted this font, as a fork from an upstream which is no longer published under a libre license. Then I did make some slight extensions. But I didn't choose this. Right now, I am working on a new font, Salieri, which I hope will be of better quality once it is finished, and which, if it ever gets swash capitals, will get them according to some historically-rooted standard, most likely, though we are nowhere near that. \stopquotation I read this as “better don’t expect me to enhance anything substantial“. HR
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[...] That’s what I did. WRT swash capitals, the author told me:
\startquotation I adopted this font, as a fork from an upstream which is no longer
On 5/19/20 8:24 AM, Henning Hraban Ramm wrote: published under a libre license. Then I did make some slight extensions. But I didn't choose this. Right now, I am working on a new font, Salieri, which I hope will be of better quality once it is finished, and which, if it ever gets swash capitals, will get them according to some historically-rooted standard, most likely, though we are nowhere near that.
\stopquotation
I read this as “better don’t expect me to enhance anything substantial“.
Many thanks for the information, Hraban. The new Salieri font is being discussed at https://typedrawers.com/discussion/3627/. The author is also working with the GFS in a revival of the original »Heraklit« designed by Hermann Zapf (this thread has some comments about it: https://typedrawers.com/discussion/3569/). Just in case anyone is interested, Pablo -- http://www.ousia.tk
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Pablo Rodriguez