On Wednesday 29 December 2004 09:10, Taco Hoekwater wrote:

Hi John,

Your format is probably missing the hyphenation patterns for english (I ran into the same problem last week):

# texexec --make en .... language : no patterns en for en (n=1) (lang-en.pat,ukhyph.tex language : no hyphenations en for en (n=1) language : no patterns uk for uk (n=2) (lang-uk.pat,ukhyph.tex language : no hyphenations uk for uk (n=2)

John Culleton wrote:

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I noted that context seems to be most reluctant to hyphenate. So I ran a test file through plain tex, pdftex and Context and checked the results. Context hyphenated less than the other two.

The manual does not say much about hyphenation. I am using a fresh TeXLive install.

Here is the top part of the log----------------------------------------------- This is pdfeTeXk, Version 3.141592-1.20a-2.2 (Web2C 7.5.3) (format=cont-en 2004.12.28) 28 DEC 2004 17:14 entering extended mode %&-line parsing enabled. (/usr/TeX/texmf/web2c/natural.tcx) **&cont-en hypph.tex (./hypph.tex

ConTeXt ver: 2004.11.17 fmt: 2004.12.28 int: english mes: english

language : language en is active

Here is the test file-------------------------------------------- \hsize 2in \input knuth.tex \bye

It seems to act as if the hyphenation dictionary weren't here. If I put in a discretionary hyphen Context will use it.

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Thanks for your prompt reply. I did texexec --make en nl and got reams of output. I moved the resulting format to the place where the original cont-en.fmt existed. Then I did texhash just to make sure. Then I ran some tests. The results were the same as the earlier results this month. I happen to have the perfect test case. I have an incomplete book that I last ran through Context in April. I have both the source and resulting pdf. The April result was hyphenated. The December results were not. The results were identical before and after running texexec --make en nl etc. Should I download Context from Pragma and reinstall from scratch? Or just find an older version on a cdr somewhere? Other suggestions? -- John Culleton Short list of publishing/marketing books: http://wexfordpress.com/tex/shortlist.pdf

On Thursday 30 December 2004 04:30, Taco Hoekwater wrote:

Hi John,

John Culleton wrote:

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texexec --make en nl

Should I download Context from Pragma and reinstall from scratch? Or just find an older version on a cdr somewhere? Other suggestions?

Check if you see these lines during the "texexec --make" run (or in the log file, afterwards)

language : no patterns en for en (n=1) (lang-en.pat,ukhyph.tex language : no hyphenations en for en (n=1) language : no patterns uk for uk (n=2) (lang-uk.pat,ukhyph.tex language : no hyphenations uk for uk (n=2)

if this is the case, then your hyphenation patterns have an unexpected name (perhaps "ukhyphen.tex"?). I solved my problems by

cp hyphen.tex lang-en.pat cp ukhyphen.tex lang-uk.pat mktexlsr

but you probably need somehwat different filenames

Good luck,

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Your technique worked perfectly, except that I added in fmtutil --all followed by texhash. Many, many thanks. However it seems to me that this mismatch in filenames should be corrected more globally. Is this a task for Hans H. or for the builders of TeXLive? With the TeXlive most recently released (early December) all of the hyphenation file names, not just English, are mismatched. I'll wait for a reply here before posting anything on alt.text.tex, where the TeXLIve gurus tend to hang out. -- John Culleton Short list of publishing/marketing books: http://wexfordpress.com/tex/shortlist.pdf

Taco Hoekwater wrote:

Assuming I understood Hans correctly, then using a new ConTeXt (starting november) together with TL2004 or the latest tetex-beta, all should be fine. Alternatively, an older ConTeXt (june) with an older tetex or texlive should also be fine.

All combinations of new and old are apparently broken. Blame the TL guys if you must, because they are the ones that keep changing the filenames of the hyphenation patterns.

such 'changes' in filenames are sometimes hidden by the alias mechanism in web2c and that 'kind of fuzzy and hidden' mechanism can masquerade the problem; i first found out about the change in filename during a tutorial at the practex conference (no hyphenation, so i was both puzzled and ...); then, at home, i found out, by grepping, that this mapping file was not always present etc etc as taco mentioned, renaming/copying a pattern file to a lang-<language code>.pat one is a solution [actually, in core-fil, i map onto those names] Hans ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl -----------------------------------------------------------------