Lucida Bright Fonts from StarOffice
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For right now, I am giving up on the postscript fonts. Lets try something else. At http://home1.vr-web.de/~was/lucidayy/, you will see some files that tell you how to use the Lucida Bright fonts that come with StartOffice 5.2 with LaTeX. I copied all the pfb and afm files from StarOffice52 into a folder. Its contents are: [khilji@localhost fonts]$ ls *.pfb hlcbot6w.pfb hlcrot6w.pfb hlhd80.pfb hlhri80.pfb hlsdo80.pfb hlsro80.pfb hlcbot80.pfb hlcrot80.pfb hlhd81.pfb hlhri81.pfb hlsdo81.pfb hlsro81.pfb hlcbot81.pfb hlcrot81.pfb hlhdi80.pfb hlsd6w.pfb hlsr6w.pfb hlcbt6w.pfb hlcrt6w.pfb hlhdi81.pfb hlsd80.pfb hlsr80.pfb hlcbt80.pfb hlcrt80.pfb hlhr80.pfb hlsd81.pfb hlsr81.pfb hlcbt81.pfb hlcrt81.pfb hlhr81.pfb hlsdo6w.pfb hlsro6w.pfb [khilji@localhost fonts]$ I also have all the *.afm files from StarOffice. Is there any way I can use these fonts with ConTeXt? If yes, where do I need to copy them and what do I rename them to? Are these fonts exactly the same as the ones that you buy from yandy.com? Also the above site says "On the other hand, only the basic font styles (roman, sans serif, typewriter) are available, whereas the fonts from Y&Y include many more variants such as true smallcaps, sans serif italic, fax, handwriting, blackletter and more)" Does CoTeXt use the other fonts that are missing? I suppose it would be legal for me to use these fonts with ConTeXt? I may have to ask someone at yandy.com. It could be possible that these fonts are supposed to be used with StarOffice and StarOffice only. Salman
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skhilji@tampabay.rr.com writes:
For right now, I am giving up on the postscript fonts. Lets try something else.
:-) Those fonts are also postscript fonts. [...]
Is there any way I can use these fonts with ConTeXt? If yes, where do I need to copy them and what do I rename them to?
Use the installer from Walter Schmidt's page and install the font as described. No renaming necessary, the script does it for you.
Are these fonts exactly the same as the ones that you buy from yandy.com?
I don't know.
Also the above site says "On the other hand, only the basic font styles (roman, sans serif, typewriter) are available, whereas the fonts from Y&Y include many more variants such as true smallcaps, sans serif italic, fax, handwriting, blackletter and more)" Does CoTeXt use the other fonts that are missing?
Only if you ask for them.
I suppose it would be legal for me to use these fonts with ConTeXt?
As long as you don't distibute them, I'd guess yes. But you shouldn't ask me... So, copy the attached file (warning: very experimental!!!) to your directory and try to use it with: \usetypescriptfile[type-lso] \definetypeface [lso][rm][serif][lbso] [default][encoding=ec] \definetypeface [lso][ss][sans] [lsso] [default][encoding=ec] \definetypeface [lso][tt][mono] [lctso][default][encoding=ec] \setupbodyfont[lso,12pt] \starttext \showbodyfont \type{The quick brown fox jumps over the 1234567890 lazy dog!} \switchtobodyfont [ss] The quick brown fox jumps over the 1234567890 lazy dog! \stoptext -- ConTeXt wiki: http://contextgarden.net texshow-web: http://texshow.contextgarden.net List archive: http://archive.contextgarden.net
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Patrick Gundlach wrote:
Are these fonts exactly the same as the ones that you buy from yandy.com?
I don't know.
probably not, i once did a project where graphics came from all kind of organizations, we ended up with (looking in the final pdf file) quite some different lucida clones; the file was a font mess anyway so nobody noticed i guess; the same may happen with times and helvetica as long as the metrics/kerning match the shapes i guess you're safe; on the other hand, i don't trust those fonts to remain unchanged, so i use the official lucida's
So, copy the attached file (warning: very experimental!!!) to your directory and try to use it with:
\usetypescriptfile[type-lso]
\definetypeface [lso][rm][serif][lbso] [default][encoding=ec] \definetypeface [lso][ss][sans] [lsso] [default][encoding=ec] \definetypeface [lso][tt][mono] [lctso][default][encoding=ec] \setupbodyfont[lso,12pt] \starttext \showbodyfont
\type{The quick brown fox jumps over the 1234567890 lazy dog!}
\switchtobodyfont [ss] The quick brown fox jumps over the 1234567890 lazy dog!
\stoptext
alternatively you can add to your type-loc.tex: \starttypescript [serif] [lucida] [ec] \definefontsynonym[LucidaBright] [...] [encoding=ec] \stoptypescript in which case you can probably use the existing lbr definition Hans ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl -----------------------------------------------------------------
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Hello Hans and others,
Are these fonts exactly the same as the ones that you buy from yandy.com?
I don't know.
probably not, i once did a project where graphics came from all kind of organizations, we ended up with (looking in the final pdf file) quite some different lucida clones; the file was a font mess anyway so nobody noticed i guess; the same may happen with times and helvetica
isn't font and mess a synonym? These fonts are labelled like: StartFontMetrics 2.0 Comment Generated by Fontographer 4.1 18.02.00 at 15:49 FontName LucidaBrightCE-Demibold FullName LucidaBrightCE-Demibold FamilyName LucidaBrightCE Weight Demibold Notice (Copyright \(c\) 1998 Bigelow & Holmes Inc. Pat. Des 289,422.) ... [...]
alternatively you can add to your type-loc.tex: \starttypescript [serif] [lucida] [ec] \definefontsynonym[LucidaBright] [...] [encoding=ec] \stoptypescript
in which case you can probably use the existing lbr definition Hans
I want to avoid name clashes betwenn "lucida from staroffice" and "official lucida". I have to do some more tests and I'll put the instructions on the wiki. Patrick -- ConTeXt wiki: http://contextgarden.net texshow-web: http://texshow.contextgarden.net List archive: http://archive.contextgarden.net
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Patrick Gundlach wrote:
isn't font and mess a synonym?
indeed
These fonts are labelled like:
StartFontMetrics 2.0 Comment Generated by Fontographer 4.1 18.02.00 at 15:49 FontName LucidaBrightCE-Demibold FullName LucidaBrightCE-Demibold FamilyName LucidaBrightCE Weight Demibold Notice (Copyright \(c\) 1998 Bigelow & Holmes Inc. Pat. Des 289,422.) ...
I assume that CE stands for Central European (normally, when you buy a font, that means not that many accented characters, i.e. many CE fonts are not suitable for german). Anyway, it looks like these are real ones. Is math also included? Hans ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl -----------------------------------------------------------------
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Hi,
I assume that CE stands for Central European (normally, when you buy a font, that means not that many accented characters, i.e. many CE fonts are not suitable for german).
A quick test (showfont and aesop-de) shows that at least "well known" accents are there.
Anyway, it looks like these are real ones. Is math also included?
No. Patrick -- ConTeXt wiki: http://contextgarden.net texshow-web: http://texshow.contextgarden.net List archive: http://archive.contextgarden.net
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