The following things would make editing the texshow wiki a lot easier to edit: * Preview displays of changes * Easy cross-referencing between commands * Not putting everything inside <pre>...</pre> tags When making changes, having a preview display makes it easier to decide on what works and what doesn't before "commiting". I added documentation to the \quote command and thought that having links to \setupquote and \setuplanguage would be helpful. I had to create <a href>-type tags for this with long-winded query-strings. It would be much easier to have some automatic cross-referencing going on (a la WikiWords perhaps, but using \ as a signal?). When everything is put inside <pre>...</pre> tags, line-breaks become significant, which makes it very hard to tell where to break a line. It would be much better if the browser could decide this for itself. Anyway, I think that texshow is a great utility and hopefully more commands will be described and commented upon. For me to continue doing this, I'd probably have to have the above features available before I did so, nikolai -- Nikolai Weibull: now available free of charge at http://bitwi.se/! Born in Chicago, IL USA; currently residing in Gothenburg, Sweden. main(){printf(&linux["\021%six\012\0"],(linux)["have"]+"fun"-97);}
Hello Nikolai, [a luckily not so long list snipped] I'll have a look at texshow-web this weekend. Thank you for your suggestion, I will report back to you and Mojca. There is also (at least) one feature reqest from Taco, so I won't get bored soon. So if there are more suggestions, shout out now. Patick
Patrick Gundlach wrote:
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I'll have a look at texshow-web this weekend. Thank you for your suggestion, I will report back to you and Mojca. There is also (at least) one feature reqest from Taco, so I won't get bored soon. So if there are more suggestions, shout out now.
Great! I hope I didn't come of as negative to texshow or its implementation. I like it, but I would also like to see it become better and easier to use/edit. Thank you for your work so far, nikolai -- Nikolai Weibull: now available free of charge at http://bitwi.se/! Born in Chicago, IL USA; currently residing in Gothenburg, Sweden. main(){printf(&linux["\021%six\012\0"],(linux)["have"]+"fun"-97);}
Patrick Gundlach wrote:
Hello Nikolai,
[a luckily not so long list snipped]
I'll have a look at texshow-web this weekend.
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So if there are more suggestions, shout out now.
Are you sure that you wanted to ask that? # source browser (apart from line numbering and advanced searching mentioned last time) - It probably doesn't make much difference, but the search could be case insensitive. - There are also quite some files with "sorry, I don't know how to display the file" message. They should either become supported, removed (we don't really need /fonts/type1/hoekwater/context/contnav.pfb for example) or there should be a link to download them - a link to download could actually be present for every file (especially if old ConTeXt distros also land in the source browser) - a link to download documentation (pdf or png with html navigation) for single .tex files could be present (like in modules.pdf) - it would be nice to add plain.tex - it would be nice to add third-party modules' sources - both goes for texshow as well This is probably not trivial, but doable: Every command is either a TeX primitive or defined somewhere (including \let-s and probably some other strange TeX stuff I'm not yet aware of). Suppose there is someone like me with very modest knowledge of all those commands, but wants to understand what that strange macro definition is doing. If there exists a short description of some command in texshow, a label could be added to any such command appearing anywhere in any .tex file and a hyperlink to either texshow or \def\thatcommand. If, for every new version of ConTeXt, a script would check for all the available new commands (\def\command), exclude the ones which are of no interest for an user (\dododododocommand ...), and somehow compare that with translations and texshow (quite some manual work would be needed anyway), than we would have a nice list of commands that: - have to be added to texshow - have to be translated if they were not already (including the modules). # live.ConTeXt - Has anyone thought about enabling the source browser and "live" on older ConTeXt distributions? I'm not sure if this brings anything and is also not on the priority list, but perhaps someone will be interested in the development of ConTeXt or some strange behaviour/bugs can be checked/compared in two different versions ... # texshow Joining (and extending) the functionality of texshow and Wiki is probably the most urgent and the least trivial task. (None of the things I mentioned above are so relevant if relevant at all.) Mojca (PS: Tell me if you need some extra books to read once you are done with your fontinstaller and the garden :)
Mojca Miklavec wrote:
- a link to download documentation (pdf or png with html navigation) for single .tex files could be present (like in modules.pdf)
Actually, modules.pdf is an old version. I'm making a new modules.pdf; news at http://contextgarden.net/User:Luigi.scarso/modules.pdf (actually useless link: maybe next week...)
Dear all,
(PS: Tell me if you need some extra books to read once you are done with your fontinstaller and the garden :)
I don't think that I am ever done with these two. :) Since we are talking about the font installer: I have created a project at foundry.supelec.fr, thanks to Fabrice Popineau. (I keep him busy with the software there :) I have uploaded some files into the subversion server, as well added something that could be called the beginning of a documentation. Beware! This is pre pre alpha software and I am very busy changing the interface every few hours, so contact me before you actually try to work with it. I hope that there will be nightly subversion snapshots to download soon. Here is the project page: https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/rfil/ and here is the 'home page' of the project: https://rfil.groups.foundry.supelec.fr/ (documentation in rdoc format) Happy TeXing and happy hacking, Patrick -- ConTeXt wiki and more: http://contextgarden.net
Hello again, finally a follow-up. I have been working on my font installer for the last few (insert your favourite time period here). It has come to a state where it is actually usable. Although not very fancy yet. For those who don't know: it is a set of ruby libraries to create a font installer as well as some example installers. It can handle a single font (like afm2tfm) and a font family (like fontinst). Included in the distribution is a program called afm2tfm.rb. You might guess that this is meant as a replacement for afm2tfm (comes with dvips). It can do a bit more than afm2tfm, for example, it can also handle truetype fonts and keep kerning and ligature information in the tfm file. Another program included is 'rfont', a simple installer for font families (regular, bold, italic, ...). But for that program, I need some help for implementing ConTeXt font support. LaTeX support is already working (although very preliminary - I'd appreciate help there, too). Prerequisites: * ruby 1.8 (I guess, I have not tested it with 1.6) * pltotf, vptovf (come with your TeX distribution) * ttf2afm (pdftex), if you want to install truetype fonts * patience (not everything is bug free) * subversion if you want to stay up to date and can't wait a few hours for the nightly snapshot. This release is dedicated to Mojca and Nikolai (who have to wait for the changes in texshow-web - I was just too busy with this)
Here is the project page: https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/rfil/
and here is the 'home page' of the project: https://rfil.groups.foundry.supelec.fr/ (documentation in rdoc format)
There is also a mailinglist at that site. You can find it at the project page. Because the upload of the foundry server is not working for me at the moment, I have put the current cvs snapshot at http://levana.de/tmp/rfil-104.tgz. This will go away soon. You can always downoad the nightly svn snapshot. Any kind of feedback is welcome. Patrick -- ConTeXt wiki and more: http://contextgarden.net
Patrick Gundlach wrote:
Any kind of feedback is welcome.
great. looks like adam and i have to start rethinking texfont now -) ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl -----------------------------------------------------------------
Any kind of feedback is welcome.
great. looks like adam and i have to start rethinking texfont now -)
Not so fast: the lib cannot handle opentype fonts yet. And it will take some thinking to integrate them smoothly (I'd expect). Patrick (Just implemented an afm writer - don't know if anybody will ever use it) -- ConTeXt wiki and more: http://contextgarden.net
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