Best way to access casul fonts
Hi, I'm trying to access Lucida Casual. I see in type-imp-lucida-typeone.mkiv that there is, indeed, a typescript for it, but I can't figure out how to switch to it. That is, I want to make some text be Lucida Casual. I gather from a previous thread that I should be using \definefontstyle, but I don't know how to go about this. Currently I'm just defining a new typescript and making Lucida Casual a synonym for Serif and then using \switchtobodyfont --- but this feel silly. I searched the wiki and skimmed the reference manual, but to no avail. Perhaps I don't know what I should be looking for. Any help would be appreciated. What's the easiest way to access a casual font? What's the cleanest way? Thanks, Mattias Märka
Hi, Following the instruction from : https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Use_the_fonts_you_want mtxrun --script font --list --file -pattern=*casual* gives : familyname weight style width variant fontname filename subfont fontweight lucidacasual normal normal normal normal lucidacasual /home/xxxx/.fonts/LucidaCasual.ttf Then the following code should work : \starttypescript [myserif] \definefontsynonym[LucidaCasual-Regular] [file:LucidaCasual.ttf] \stoptypescript \starttypescript [myserif] \setups[font:fallback:serif] \definefontsynonym[Serif] [LucidaCasual-Regular] [features=default] \stoptypescript \starttypescript [myserif] \definetypeface [myserif] [rm] [serif] [myserif] [default] \stoptypescript \setupbodyfont[12pt] \starttext The quick brown fox jumps over the lazy dog \setupbodyfont[myserif] The quick brown fox jumps over the lazy dog \stoptext
On 1/23/23 19:04, Mattias Märka via ntg-context wrote:
Hi,
I'm trying to access Lucida Casual.
Hi Matthias, With a relatively recent version of ConTeXt (LMTX or MkIV), the following should work: \definefontfamily[myserif][rm][Lucida Casual] \starttext The quick brown fox jumps over the lazy dog. \setupbodyfont[myserif] The quick brown fox jumps over the lazy dog. \stoptext This is the easiest way to access it. Another question would be how to mix a casual font with serif, sans-serif and mono typefaces. Just in case it might help, Pablo
Hi Pablo,
Yes, I want to mix casual with serif, sans-serif and so on. Sorry, I wasn't clear in my original message.
What Garulfo suggested is what I've been doing.
Mattias
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On Monday, January 23rd, 2023 at 9:10 PM, Pablo Rodriguez via ntg-context
On 1/23/23 19:04, Mattias Märka via ntg-context wrote:
Hi,
I'm trying to access Lucida Casual.
Hi Matthias,
With a relatively recent version of ConTeXt (LMTX or MkIV), the following should work:
\definefontfamily[myserif][rm][Lucida Casual] \starttext The quick brown fox jumps over the lazy dog.
\setupbodyfont[myserif] The quick brown fox jumps over the lazy dog. \stoptext
This is the easiest way to access it.
Another question would be how to mix a casual font with serif, sans-serif and mono typefaces.
Just in case it might help,
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On 1/23/23 20:32, Mattias Märka via ntg-context wrote:
Hi Pablo,
Yes, I want to mix casual with serif, sans-serif and so on. Hi Mattias (please, excuse my previous misspelling of your name),
here you have it: \definefontfamily[mainface][rm][TeX Gyre Pagella] \definefontfamily[mainface][ss][TeX Gyre Heros] \definefontfamily[mainface][tt][TeX Gyre Cursor] \definefontfamily[mainface][hw][Lucida Casual] \definefontfamily[mainface][cg][Lucida Casual] \setupbodyfont[mainface] \starttext \doloopoverlist{\rm,\ss,\tt,\hw,\cg} {{\recursestring% The quick brown fox jumps over the lazy dog.\par}} \stoptext Lucida Casual is handwriting and calligraphy in the sample. But you only need one of them. I hope it helps, Pablo
Hi
This is probably the most reasonable solution.
Thanks
Mattias
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On Tuesday, January 24th, 2023 at 9:41 AM, Pablo Rodriguez via ntg-context
On 1/23/23 20:32, Mattias Märka via ntg-context wrote:
Hi Pablo,
Yes, I want to mix casual with serif, sans-serif and so on.
Hi Mattias (please, excuse my previous misspelling of your name),
here you have it:
\definefontfamily[mainface][rm][TeX Gyre Pagella] \definefontfamily[mainface][ss][TeX Gyre Heros] \definefontfamily[mainface][tt][TeX Gyre Cursor] \definefontfamily[mainface][hw][Lucida Casual] \definefontfamily[mainface][cg][Lucida Casual] \setupbodyfont[mainface] \starttext \doloopoverlist{\rm,\ss,\tt,\hw,\cg} {{\recursestring% The quick brown fox jumps over the lazy dog.\par}} \stoptext
Lucida Casual is handwriting and calligraphy in the sample. But you only need one of them.
I hope it helps,
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On 1/29/23 19:07, Mattias Märka via ntg-context wrote:
Hi
This is probably the most reasonable solution.
Hi Mattias, would you be so kind to update https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Use_the_fonts_you_want to include this? Many thanks for your help, Pablo
Hi
Will do.
\definefontstyle is still bugging me. I gather from previous threads that it should be possible to define a new font style for casual and use that via a font switch, but I cannot get this to work. I'm not sure this is still possible.
The threads I'm referring to:
https://www.mail-archive.com/ntg-context@ntg.nl/msg00039.html
https://www.mail-archive.com/ntg-context@ntg.nl/msg39849.html
https://www.mail-archive.com/ntg-context@ntg.nl/msg84188.html
I might start a separate thread and ask whether \definefontstyle still works.
I also experimented with defining my own typescripts for Lucida so that casual and fax (and all the other various Lucida fonts, really) are easily accessible.
Something like:
\starttypescript[serif][lucbr]
\definefontsynonym[Serif][name:LucidaBright]
\definefontsynonym[SerifItalic][name:LucidaBright-Italic]
\definefontsynonym[SerifBold][name:LucidaBright-Demi]
\definefontsynonym[SerifBoldItalic][name:LucidaBright-DemiItalic]
\definefontsynonym[SerifSlanted][name:LucidaBright-Slanted]
\definefontsynonym[SerifCaps][name:LucidaBrightSmallcaps]
\definefontsynonym[SerifBoldCaps][name:LucidaBrightSmallCaps-Demi]
\stoptypescript
\starttypescript[serif][lucfax]
\definefontsynonym[Serif][name:LucidaFax]
\definefontsynonym[SerifItalic][name:LucidaFax-Italic]
\definefontsynonym[SerifBold][name:LucidaFax-Demi]
\definefontsynonym[SerifBoldItalic][name:LucidaFax-DemiItalic]
\stoptypescript
\starttypescript[sans][lucss]
\definefontsynonym[Sans][name:LucidaSans]
\definefontsynonym[SansItalic][name:LucidaSans-Italic]
\definefontsynonym[SansBold][name:LucidaSans-Demi]
\definefontsynonym[SansBoldItalic][name:LucidaSans-DemiItalic]
\stoptypescript
\starttypescript[mono][lucbr,luctt]
\definefontsynonym[Mono][name:LucidaTypewriter]
\definefontsynonym[MonoItalic][name:LucidaTypweriterOblique]
\definefontsynonym[MonoBold][name:LucidaTypewriterBold]
\definefontsynonym[MonoBoldItalic][name:LucidaTypweriterBoldOblique]
\stoptypescript
\starttypescript[mono][lucss,lucsstt]
\definefontsynonym[Mono][name:LucidaSansTypewriter]
\definefontsynonym[MonoItalic][name:LucidaSansTypweriterOblique]
\definefontsynonym[MonoBold][name:LucidaSansTypewriterBold]
\definefontsynonym[MonoBoldItalic][name:LucidaSansTypweriterBoldOblique]
\stoptypescript
\starttypescript[calligraphy][lucbr,luccg]
\definefontsynonym[Calligraphy][name:LucidaCalligraphy-Italic]
\stoptypescript
\starttypescript[handwriting][lucbr,luchw]
\definefontsynonym[Handwriting][name:LucidaHandwriting-Italic]
\stoptypescript
\starttypescript[serif][lucbl]
\definefontsynonym[Serif][name:LucidaBlackletter]
\stoptypescript
\starttypescript[serif][luccas]
\definefontsynonym[Serif][name:LucidaCasual]
\definefontsynonym[SerifItalic][name:LucidaCasual-Italic]
\stoptypescript
\starttypescript[lucbr]
\definetypeface[lucbr][rm][serif][lucbr][default][features=default]
\definetypeface[lucbr][mm][math][lucida][default]
\definetypeface[lucbr][tt][mono][lucbr][default][features=default]
\definetypeface[lucbr][cg][calligrpahy][default][features=default]
\definetypeface[lucbr][hw][handwriting][default][features=default]
\stoptypescript
\starttypescript[lucfax]
\definetypeface[lucfax][rm][serif][lucfax][default][features=default]
\stoptypescript
\starttypescript[lucss]
\definetypeface[lucss][ss][sans][lucss][default][features=default]
\definetypeface[lucss][tt][mono][lucss][default][features=default]
\stoptypescript
\starttypescript[luctt]
\definetypeface[luctt][tt][mono][luctt][default][features=default]
\stoptypescript
\starttypescript[lucsstt]
\definetypeface[lucsstt][tt][mono][lucsstt][default][features=default]
\stoptypescript
\starttypescript[luccg]
\definetypeface[luccg][cg][calligraphy][luccg][default][features=default]
\stoptypescript
\starttypescript[luchw]
\definetypeface[luchw][hw][handwriting][luchw][default][features=default]
\stoptypescript
\starttypescript[lucbl]
\definetypeface[lucbl][rm][serif][lucbl][default][features=default]
\stoptypescript
\starttypescript[luccas]
\definetypeface[luccas][rm][serif][luccas][default][features=default]
\stoptypescript
\starttypescript[luc]
\definetypeface[luc][rm][serif][lucbr][default][features=default]
\definetypeface[luc][mm][math][lucida][default]
\definetypeface[luc][ss][sans][lucss][default][features=default]
\definetypeface[luc][tt][mono][lucbr][default][features=default]
\definetypeface[luc][cg][calligraphy][lucbr][default][features=default]
\definetypeface[luc][hw][handwriting][lucbr][default][features=default]
\stoptypescript
\def\lucbr{\switchtobodyfont[lucbr]}
\def\lucfax{\switchtobodyfont[lucfax]}
\def\lucss{\switchtobodyfont[lucss]}
\def\luctt{\switchtobodyfont[luctt]}
\def\lucsstt{\switchtobodyfont[lucsstt]}
\def\luccg{\switchtobodyfont[luccg]}
\def\luchw{\switchtobodyfont[luchw]}
\def\lucbl{\switchtobodyfont[lucbl]}
\def\luccas{\switchtobodyfont[luccas]}
Would it make sense adding this to the wiki as well? I feel like what I'm doing is non-standard. I'm also repeating a lot of what's in the Lucida typescript file that comes with the distribution. There must be some easy way to monkey patch the existing type script file.
Mattias
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On Monday, January 30th, 2023 at 1:20 PM, Pablo Rodriguez via ntg-context
On 1/29/23 19:07, Mattias Märka via ntg-context wrote:
Hi
This is probably the most reasonable solution.
Hi Mattias,
would you be so kind to update https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Use_the_fonts_you_want to include this?
Many thanks for your help,
Pablo
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Am 30.01.23 um 18:24 schrieb Mattias Märka via ntg-context:
\definefontstyle is still bugging me. I gather from previous threads that it should be possible to define a new font style for casual and use that via a font switch, but I cannot get this to work. I'm not sure this is still possible.
No, it isn’t, I recently asked Hans. Hraban
Ha, good to know. Do you know what one should do instead?
Also, do you know why this is? It would be good to mention this on the wiki.
Mattias
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On Monday, January 30th, 2023 at 7:49 PM, Henning Hraban Ramm via ntg-context
Am 30.01.23 um 18:24 schrieb Mattias Märka via ntg-context:
\definefontstyle is still bugging me. I gather from previous threads that it should be possible to define a new font style for casual and use that via a font switch, but I cannot get this to work. I'm not sure this is still possible.
No, it isn’t, I recently asked Hans.
Hraban
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On 1/30/2023 6:49 PM, Henning Hraban Ramm via ntg-context wrote:
Am 30.01.23 um 18:24 schrieb Mattias Märka via ntg-context:
\definefontstyle is still bugging me. I gather from previous threads that it should be possible to define a new font style for casual and use that via a font switch, but I cannot get this to work. I'm not sure this is still possible.
No, it isn’t, I recently asked Hans. just define a new typeface with casual as serif
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