Otared KAVIAN wrote:

On 6/24/05, Peter Münster wrote:

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Hello, could somebody help me with the following problem please?

With the following test file, I get the error "ERROR: Illegal parameter number in definition of \verbatimline."

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Hi Peter, I am very sorry, I had completely forgotten about that issue. It boils down to the following: \long\def\StartLong#1\StopLong{#1} \starttext \StartLong \starttyping hallo \stoptyping \StopLong \stoptext This will produce no error, but no output as well. Maybe we could use some alternate mechanism to define the \StartLong...\StopLong pair. However, this is beyond my knowledge. Hans? Regards, David Le Monday 12 September 2005 à 19:04 +0200, Peter Münster a écrit :

On Mon, 27 Jun 2005, David Munger wrote:

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I'm currently not at home. I'll be back next week and then I'll try to figure out what happens.

Hi David, have you already found something? Regards, Peter

Le Mercredi 21 septembre 2005 à 14:38 +0200, Christopher Creutzig a écrit :

David Munger wrote:

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\long\def\StartLong#1\StopLong{#1}

\starttext \StartLong \starttyping hallo \stoptyping \StopLong \stoptext

This will produce no error, but no output as well. Maybe we could use some alternate mechanism to define the \StartLong...\StopLong pair.

\def\StartLong{} \def\StopLong{}

Or, if you insist on having the argument,

I do need the argument. Its use is repeated in the real macro.

\long\def\StartLong#1\StopLong{\scantokens{#1}}

This produces no output as well. texexec says: No pages of output. Thanks anyway. David

Thanks Taco, This solution works in that particular case. Unfortunately, the \StartLong macro is not meant only for producing line-wise content. In the general case, it contains something else than just \starttyping block. David Le Mercredi 21 septembre 2005 à 16:13 +0200, Taco Hoekwater a écrit :

Hi,

\starttyping needs to be followed by a newline, but macro arguments cannot contain newlines unless \obeylines is in effect. So:

\def\StartLong{\begingroup\obeylines\doStartLong} \long\def\doStartLong#1\StopLong{\scantokens{#1}\endgroup}

Cheers,

Taco

David Munger wrote:

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I do need the argument. Its use is repeated in the real macro.

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\long\def\StartLong#1\StopLong{\scantokens{#1}}

This produces no output as well. texexec says: No pages of output.

Thanks anyway.

David

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Hi Christopher, This was the right way. Thanks a lot! Still, I don't understand how the \starttyping macro gets to work if ^^M is redefined as ^^J. I will tell Patrick to update the module on the garden. Meanwhile, you can get the updated version on my site: http://cfd.homelinux.org/tex/ David Le Jeudi 22 septembre 2005 à 08:56 +0200, Christopher Creutzig a écrit :

David Munger wrote:

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Unfortunately, the \StartLong macro is not meant only for producing line-wise content. In the general case, it contains something else than just \starttyping block.

Please try this:

\bgroup

\catcode`\^^M=\active

\gdef\StartLong{\begingroup\obeylines\let^^M^^J\doStartLong}

\egroup

\def\doStartLong#1\StopLong{% \setbuffer[x]#1\endbuffer \endgroup \getbuffer[x] }

\starttext \StartLong \starttyping abcde \stoptyping

and now for something completely different

\StopLong \stoptext

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Hans, The RawSteps module produces virtual slides with stepping, by rendering the step incrementally on successive pages. Thus, the \StartSteps...\StopSteps macro has to expand its argument (i.e. the content of the slide) a certain number of times, depending the number of requested steps. Of course, it shows only the relevant parts at each step. To allow this, I had to work around page numbers, formula numbers, and lately \starttyping blocks. If you could suggest a better way to achieve this multiple expansion, it would be welcome. Regards, David

why exactly do you need this construct; there may be other ways to do it;

Hans

Hans Hagen:

did you ever try

texexec --mode=demo s-pre-61

using 'layers' is rather robust (no duplicate pages and such);

Of course, I did. The only issue is about JavaScript, which does not work in most non-Acrobat PDF readers. This is the purpose of the RawSteps module: to avoid using JavaScript.

Some of the older presentation styles build the pages stepwise, they use either boxes, or buffers (i must look into it, but there is also one that plugs into the otr; in your case, collecting in a box and uncopying it is probably the best method.

Do you mean with \setbox-like commands? I'll have a look at it. Thanks for the suggestion. David

On Thu, 22 Sep 2005, Hans Hagen wrote:

Some of the older presentation styles build the pages stepwise, they use either boxes, or buffers (i must look into it, but there is also one that plugs into the otr; in your case, collecting in a box and uncopying it is probably the best method.

there is no general robust solution for this that does not messes up something so it depends on the kin df presentation

When I used LaTeX, I used prosper and seminar for presentations. (some results: http://pmrb.free.fr/prosper/ and http://pmrb.free.fr/work/cours/ ) There was no JavaScript but it was really robust: no problems with equations, figures, listings etc. Perhaps it is possible to copy their mechanisms? Cheers, Peter -- http://pmrb.free.fr/contact/

Hans Hagen wrote:

also, when collecting and flushing pieces of content, spacing is a tricky business (watch closely to presentations made quick and you'll notice those side effects)

That is why ppower4 is such a nice alternative: It inserts just some pdf comments and otherwise leaves the typesetting alone. Then a postprocessor takes the pdf file and creates a new one, with everything left at its original position, but appearing only on the pages (a slide is built up by jumping to the next page) where it is supposed to appear.

the content, presentation and audience, which in practice means that i don't use general solutions (apart from the fact that i don't like

Well, a general solution for the isolated requiement of “having considered content, audience and everything, I want my text/gfx/ whatever appear step-wise“ would be a good thing, imho. And I did in the past also use things like removing the full stop when stepping from This implies A. to This implies A and therefore, B. I have also seen a presentation where the speaker sketched a proof of some lemma, then generelized it and simply exchanged the relevant words in the lemma. The new words were shorter, so there was some space to the left and right of them and they had some contrast color. The effect was not just “cool” and “I don't think Powerpoint could do that” – what's more important is that this was by far the clearest way of getting the message across. Is there a way of having \installprogram for only for after the *last* run? (I don't think there could be a systemmode for the last run, but texexec knows it has done the last run, so there might be some file.tui line doing this kind of magic.) Christopher

Hans Hagen wrote:

Christopher Creutzig wrote:

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Is there a way of having \installprogram for only for after the *last* run? (I don't think there could be a systemmode for the last run, but

another option is to use --final in texexec and test for:

\startmode[*last] ... \stopmode

Doesn't work for \installprogram. TeXutil only runs if another TeX run is needed. I'll remind you, as you requested. :) Christopher

Albrecht Kauffmann said this at Mon, 26 Sep 2005 17:04:45 +0200:

has ConTeXt any equivalent to the \thanks command in LaTeX that types a footnote with a "*" as number and doesn't alter the footnote counter?

Hello, Albrecht, Does the following handle the cases you need: \definenote[thanks][conversion=set 2] \starttext A. U. Thor\thanks[Misk]{A. U. Thor and W.H. Gates, III, are at Miskatonic U.}, A. N. Onymouse\thanks{A. N. Onymouse is at Shoggoth Enterprises.}, and W. H. Gates, III\note[Misk] Here is a footnote.\footnote{a note} Footnotes\footnote{another note} return here. \stoptext -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Adam T. Lindsay, Computing Dept. atl@comp.lancs.ac.uk Lancaster University, InfoLab21 +44(0)1524/510.514 Lancaster, LA1 4WA, UK Fax:+44(0)1524/510.492 -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-