Hi,

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Is there something like \arraystretch(?) which is a factor that every vertical whitespace in a table is multiplied with?

If you are happy with an integer scaling, [...]

cool, this is very nice! Thanks, Patrick

Quoting Johannes Graumann :

Aditya Mahajan wrote:

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Hi,

The question of how to get tables equivalent to latex's booktabs package has been discussed quite a few times in the past. Booktabs package provides (top|mid|bottom)rule commands and a cmidrule command. The top and bottom rules are 0.08em thick, the midrule is 0.05em thick, and the cmidrules are 0.03em thick. The cmidrules do not extend beyond the columns edge. Here is an example of how to do something similar using tables in context http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Table#Booktabs.

To me this looks exactly similar to the example in the booktabs manual. Am I missing something, or is it fair to say that context can generate booktabs like tables?

Hello,

I'm one of the booktab-equivalent requesters and in my case the request is motivated by the (sadly German-only) http://www.ctan.org/tex-archive/info/german/tabsatz/tabsatz.pdf Please compare examples on pages 4 and 5 for the cmidrule functionality I'm missing in ConTeXt. The clarity you can give classy looking tables with trimmed cmidrules is even more evident in the example on page 9. There's lots of more use of this in the document, but it gets too esoteric to be easily grasped quickly (IMHO).

Here is one attempt, which works correctly. Of course the best solution is to forget about the \omit and set the halign preamble correctly. But I have not been able to figure that out yet. \starttext \def\CMID{\normalTABLEshortrule} \unprotect \def\TableNC {\checkTABLEautorow \nextTABLEgrayline \ifnum\currentTABLEcolumn>\maxTABLEcolumn \setTABLEerror\TABLEmissingrow \handleTABLEerror \else \global\advance\currentTABLEcolumn \plusone \ifnum\currentTABLEcolumn=1\relax \normalTABLEquote \else \fancyTABLEquote \fi \fi} \def\fancyTABLEquote {\unskip\!ttRightGlue&\omit\hskip2em&} % " \protect \setuptables[rulethickness=0.03em] \starttable[s0|l|l|] \HL[3] \NC Monat \NC 1965 \NC 1966 \AR \NC \CMID \NC \CMID \NC \CMID \DR \NC September \NC 2000 \NC 1700 \AR \HL[3] \stoptable \stoptext Aditya

2007/8/9, Hamid Kamrani :

Aditya,

In the example you give with CMID you have only two column preambles whereas the table has 3 columns and if one adds the missing preamble then one gets an error. Some how your new code breaks the calculation for number of columns.

-Hamid

He forgot only to put a \NC before the \AR. The correct code should be \starttable[s0|l|l|l|] \HL[3] \NC Monat \NC 1965 \NC 1966 \NC\AR \NC \CMID \NC \CMID \NC \CMID \DR \NC September \NC 2000 \NC 1700 \NC\AR \HL[3] \stoptable Wolfgang

On 8/8/07, Aditya Mahajan wrote:

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Quoting Johannes Graumann :

...

Aditya Mahajan wrote:

...

Hi,

The question of how to get tables equivalent to latex's booktabs package has been discussed quite a few times in the past. Booktabs package provides (top|mid|bottom)rule commands and a cmidrule command. The top and bottom rules are 0.08em thick, the midrule is 0.05em thick, and the cmidrules are 0.03em thick. The cmidrules do not extend beyond the columns edge. Here is an example of how to do something similar using tables in context http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Table#Booktabs.

To me this looks exactly similar to the example in the booktabs manual. Am I missing something, or is it fair to say that context can generate booktabs like tables?

...

Hello,

I'm one of the booktab-equivalent requesters and in my case the request is motivated by the (sadly German-only) http://www.ctan.org/tex-archive/info/german/tabsatz/tabsatz.pdf Please compare examples on pages 4 and 5 for the cmidrule functionality I'm missing in ConTeXt. The clarity you can give classy looking tables with trimmed cmidrules is even more evident in the example on page 9. There's lots of more use of this in the document, but it gets too esoteric to be easily grasped quickly (IMHO).

Here is one attempt, which works correctly. Of course the best solution is to forget about the \omit and set the halign preamble correctly. But I have not been able to figure that out yet.

\starttext

\def\CMID{\normalTABLEshortrule}

\unprotect \def\TableNC {\checkTABLEautorow \nextTABLEgrayline \ifnum\currentTABLEcolumn>\maxTABLEcolumn \setTABLEerror\TABLEmissingrow \handleTABLEerror \else \global\advance\currentTABLEcolumn \plusone \ifnum\currentTABLEcolumn=1\relax \normalTABLEquote \else \fancyTABLEquote \fi \fi}

\def\fancyTABLEquote {\unskip\!ttRightGlue&\omit\hskip2em&} % " \protect

\setuptables[rulethickness=0.03em]

\starttable[s0|l|l|] \HL[3] \NC Monat \NC 1965 \NC 1966 \AR \NC \CMID \NC \CMID \NC \CMID \DR \NC September \NC 2000 \NC 1700 \AR \HL[3] \stoptable

\stoptext

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2007/8/9, Aditya Mahajan :

Quoting Wolfgang Schuster :

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2007/8/9, Aditya Mahajan :

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On Thu, 9 Aug 2007, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:

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2007/8/9, Hamid Kamrani :

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Aditya,

In the example you give with CMID you have only two column preambles whereas the table has 3 columns and if one adds the missing preamble then one gets an error. Some how your new code breaks the calculation for number of columns.

-Hamid

He forgot only to put a \NC before the \AR.

Sorry about that. I thought I pasted from a correctly running example.

Here is another attempt, which I feel is the cleanest way to go about this whole thing. Right now the skip between the columns is not configurable, but it should be possible to use the get the value of the skip.

The attached code typesets an example that Wolfgang had sent off-list. I have only changed two lines of the table.tex.

Aditya

Hi Aditya,

what do you think about

\setuptables [\c!columndistance=2em]

This goes against the way I understand table macros. With this, you can only have equal width columns. In tables, you can specify specific widths of specific s and o keys.

look into the tabsatz and boktabs manual and you see all columns in them have the same distance, it was only meant as a alternative to your hard coded columndistance in the examples. If you can do this with another method like the tabskip there nothing against them. Wolfgang

AFAIU, the table macros divide that the specified tabskip by 2, and place it in the data column. Since the rule column comes next, the rule column automatically gets the same tabskip, so in appearance we the specified column width.

This is also the reason why cmidrules do not work. If you specify a hrule inside a data column, it spans half of the visual space between the columns. What needs to be done is that the glue be added inside a local group to the rule column, with the global tabskip set to zero.

The previous solution that I posted adds a 2em tabskip glue to the rule column, and a 0pt tabskip glue to the data column. After thinking again about it, I think that this is not the right way. There is no need to add a 0pt glue to the data column. We can add the glue to the rule column inside a group.

I will see if I can get this working.

Aditya

Wolfgang, It is not just a matter of forgetting the NC. When you add that NC then the tabbing and alignment is incorrect for the last column. The rules should not extend beyond the last column and in this case they do. Aditya's formatted correctly but had the wrong syntax. Yours has the right syntax but formats incorrectly. -Hamid On 8/9/07, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:

2007/8/9, Hamid Kamrani :

...

Aditya,

In the example you give with CMID you have only two column preambles whereas the table has 3 columns and if one adds the missing preamble then one gets an error. Some how your new code breaks the calculation for number of columns.

-Hamid

He forgot only to put a \NC before the \AR.

The correct code should be

\starttable[s0|l|l|l|] \HL[3] \NC Monat \NC 1965 \NC 1966 \NC\AR \NC \CMID \NC \CMID \NC \CMID \DR \NC September \NC 2000 \NC 1700 \NC\AR \HL[3] \stoptable

Wolfgang

...

On 8/8/07, Aditya Mahajan wrote:

...

Quoting Johannes Graumann :

...

Aditya Mahajan wrote:

...

Hi,

The question of how to get tables equivalent to latex's booktabs package has been discussed quite a few times in the past. Booktabs package provides (top|mid|bottom)rule commands and a cmidrule command. The top and bottom rules are 0.08em thick, the midrule is 0.05em thick, and the cmidrules are 0.03em thick. The cmidrules do not extend beyond the columns edge. Here is an example of how to do something similar using tables in context http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Table#Booktabs.

To me this looks exactly similar to the example in the booktabs manual. Am I missing something, or is it fair to say that context can generate booktabs like tables?

...

Hello,

I'm one of the booktab-equivalent requesters and in my case the request is motivated by the (sadly German-only) http://www.ctan.org/tex-archive/info/german/tabsatz/tabsatz.pdf Please compare examples on pages 4 and 5 for the cmidrule functionality I'm missing in ConTeXt. The clarity you can give classy looking tables with trimmed cmidrules is even more evident in the example on page 9. There's lots of more use of this in the document, but it gets too esoteric to be easily grasped quickly (IMHO).

Here is one attempt, which works correctly. Of course the best solution is to forget about the \omit and set the halign preamble correctly. But I have not been able to figure that out yet.

\starttext

\def\CMID{\normalTABLEshortrule}

\unprotect \def\TableNC {\checkTABLEautorow \nextTABLEgrayline \ifnum\currentTABLEcolumn>\maxTABLEcolumn \setTABLEerror\TABLEmissingrow \handleTABLEerror \else \global\advance\currentTABLEcolumn \plusone \ifnum\currentTABLEcolumn=1\relax \normalTABLEquote \else \fancyTABLEquote \fi \fi}

\def\fancyTABLEquote {\unskip\!ttRightGlue&\omit\hskip2em&} % " \protect

\setuptables[rulethickness=0.03em]

\starttable[s0|l|l|] \HL[3] \NC Monat \NC 1965 \NC 1966 \AR \NC \CMID \NC \CMID \NC \CMID \DR \NC September \NC 2000 \NC 1700 \AR \HL[3] \stoptable

\stoptext

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