--- Jens-Uwe Morawski wrote:

On Tue, 4 Mar 2003 08:45:24 -0800 (PST) "James J. Ramsey" wrote:

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I think I may have smoked out some problems with my ConTeXt installation in the process. I'm running Red Hat 8.0, with teTeX-1.0.7.

i would prefer an update at least to TEXLive7 and the current ConTeXt

Easier said than done on most Linux distros. teTeX is "standard equipment" on many of them, and often a dependency.

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What is going on?

find the file cont-sys.tex and uncomment the lines \setupencoding [\s!default=ec] \usetypescript [berry] [\defaultencoding]

That didn't work. I get this complaint: ! Undefined control sequence. <argument> \s !default=ec \xprocesscommaitem #1,#2->\if ,#1 ,\@EA \xprocesscommaitem \else \if ]#1\@EAE... \xdogetparameters #1]->\xprocesscommaitem #1,] ,\@relax@ \dosetupencoding [#1]->\getparameters [\??ec ][#1] \edef \defaultencoding {\i... l.1 \setupencoding [\s!default=ec]

if this still does not work since font utmr8r etc. is not found

Yeah, I do not have that font. Oddly enough, I do have the files utmr8a.pfb and utmr8a.afm, but no utmr8r.

then you should install an up-to-date TeX distribution

As I said, easier said than done. __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - forms, calculators, tips, more http://taxes.yahoo.com/

On Wed, 5 Mar 2003 22:55:11 +0100 Jens-Uwe Morawski wrote:

- create a file /etc/profile.d/texlive.sh with following content

PATH=/opt/ConTeXt/bin:/opt/TeXLive/bin/i386-linux:$PATH TEXMFCNF="/opt/TeXLive/texmf/web2c/texmf.cnf" export TEXMFCNF

Uups sorry, it should be: PATH=/opt/ConTeXt/bin:/opt/TeXLive/bin/i386-linux:$PATH MANPATH=/opt/TeXLive/man/:`manpath` TEXMFCNF=/opt/TeXLive/texmf/web2c export MANPATH TEXMFCNF and where i've said "done", not all is done. You still have to generate the ConTeXt format files. Thus, go in /opt/ConTeXt/texmf/context/config/ copy texexec.rme to texexec.ini and generate the formats texexec --make --language=en en texexec --make metafun texexec --make mptopdf or what else is needed. Jens

On Wednesday 05 March 2003 19:16, you wrote:

--- Jens-Uwe Morawski wrote:

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On Tue, 4 Mar 2003 08:45:24 -0800 (PST) "James J. Ramsey"

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I'm running Red Hat 8.0, with teTeX-1.0.7.

i would prefer an update at least to TEXLive7 and the current ConTeXt

Easier said than done on most Linux distros. teTeX is "standard equipment" on many of them, and often a dependency.

Oh no, it's easy, I replaced it on SuSE. Here are the steps: Forget about rpm, just pretend tht everything is there. Make sure you are a priviledged user. 1) remove /usr/share/texmf (or wherever RetHat puts it). 2) install TeXLive 7 (or wait till 8 comes out) in /usr/share/TeX 3) find out where the executable lives (which tex) 4) replace all symlinks in that directory with symlinks to the binaries of TeXLive. 5) add a symlink to you new main texmf tree in /usr/share/texmf The other packages should see no difference. A package manager is fine, but if you want to have an advanced tex (current tex), you should not rely on RedHat or SuSe. Both seem to downgrade tex more and more, and favour OpenOffice, since that is what point-and-click users expect. I get the same rash from either OpenOffice or MS Office, so I guess this doesn't really apply to the part of the demographics subscribed to this list. Cheers (sorry for the rant) Maarten

--- Simon Pepping wrote:

On Tue, Mar 04, 2003 at 08:45:24AM -0800, James J. Ramsey wrote:

I think you need to add the following lines of code:

\setupencoding[default=ec] \usetypescript [serif] [times] [\defaultencoding] \usetypescript [sans] [helvetica] [\defaultencoding] \usetypescript [mono] [courier] [\defaultencoding] \usetypescript [berry] [\defaultencoding]

The above didn't quite work. LaTeX2ConTeXt compiled without errors, but the fonts were all Computer Modern. In addition, the sections of the document showing samples of LaTeX and ConTeXt markup had the characters '\', '{', and '}' replaced with '"', '-', and '', respectively.

Alternatively, you can use the following lines of code, which achieve the same thing:

\usetypescript[postscript] [ec] \usetypescript[berry][ec] \switchtotypeface [postscript][rm]

For some reason, the above works just fine. __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - forms, calculators, tips, more http://taxes.yahoo.com/

--- Simon Pepping wrote:

On Wed, Mar 05, 2003 at 02:26:51PM -0800, James J. Ramsey wrote:

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\usetypescript[postscript] [ec] \usetypescript[berry][ec] \switchtotypeface [postscript][rm]

For some reason, the above works just fine.

You sound quite surprised.

Considering that I started this thread because a documented font command, \setupbodyfont[ber,pos], barfed on me, I think I have a right to be surprised. :-) __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - forms, calculators, tips, more http://taxes.yahoo.com/

On Thu, Mar 06, 2003 at 12:03:54AM +0100, Jens-Uwe Morawski wrote:

On Wed, 5 Mar 2003 21:25:04 +0100 Simon Pepping wrote:

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I think running Red Hat 8.0, with teTeX-1.0.7 with ConTeXt ver: 2002.1.28 is a reasonable thing to do. Most of the software packages I run are older than that. One only runs the latest and greatest of software one is especially interested in.

Hmm, aren't you interested in ConTeXt? ;-)

I am still to install this week's version; does that make me fail? ;-)

The real question: would you like that people ask/bother you about bugs and missing features of DocBookInConTeXt that are already fixed or implemented. I'm sure your answer is: No. So, why use an old ConTeXt if Hans spends so much time to improve it. Why use an old and buggy pdftex that is shipped with RedHat's teTeX? Why use a TeX system that does not support real (no ae tricks) 8-bit (T1) ComputerModern fonts ? I see no reason.

I see very good reasons. For an average user a computer installation is a utility. He does not spend his time on learning lots about this or that piece of software, like we do. Perhaps he spends his time singing, or writing stories, or annoying his wife, or whatever. That is why Thomas Esscher, RedHat, Debian etc. do their useful work: package all that stuff into an integrated, configured distribution, so that an average user can use it without hesitation to write his songs or his hatemail or whatever he does with it. Did you notice that many developers run MS Windows because they are not interested in the setup problems that a Linux distribution presents (more so in the past)? Like all the other users, they want to do their own stuff, without having to spend a lot of time on the utilities. I believe that a community is bound to the software that has been released as stable, certainly if it has gone into widely used distributions. Of course, older versions do not support new features, and the more so with rapidly developing software. But apart from such new features, I do not think it is right to say to a user: Oh, but that version is a year old, you should upgrade now. An average user upgrades when he buys a new distro. I think the TeX world has had rather bad behaviour in this respect. Too many people have thought that if wizards could give you the right answer, then all was well. It is not. We should aim to develop and package software that installs well, runs well, is clear and understandable in its usage instructions. TeTeX, fptex, TeXLive and MikTeX have done tremendously good work. 10 years ago it required strong knowledge to set up a working TeX installation. These days most users can do it. Regards, Simon -- Simon Pepping email: spepping@scaprea.hobby.nl