Hans van der Meer wrote:

That's what I had and somehow could not get working again.

you mean that you saw no movie?

I therefore did some experimenting and now I have something working:

In the above I first thought "StartMovie" etc would work but "StartRendering" etc did the trick. As of the special purpose of StartMovie and friends I am still in the dark.

\externalfigure[whatever.mov][....,label=somelabel] \goto{start}[StartMovie{somelabel}] (i didn't test it; this is typically one of the areas where pdf specs and viewers evolve over time; what works in version 3 viewers may fail in version 5; normally i adapt that kind of stuff when i run into it / need it (with the danger of breaking oder stuff); one problem is that there is a relationship (now) betwene the page where the resource is and where it is activated [it's that kind of dependencies that has shown up]; the same for sounds: resources need to be on the same page as where they are clled (which over time made some examples fail when viewers changed their expectations).

\definerenderingwindow [movie] [width=1.33\makeupheight,height= \makeupheight,strut=no,offset=0pt,frame=off, background=color,backgroundcolor=BackgroundColor, closepageaction=StopCurrentRendering]

I had to remove the openpageaction from the example in the context fle and then it stopped putting the movie on each and every page once it had been opened.

the rendering mechanism is using the pdf 1.5/6 features i.e. separation between resource and rendering view (buggy in acrobat 6, but may be better by now) ; there is some example code in x-res-50 etc

Finally typesetting the movie with:

\useexternalrendering[purple][video/quicktime][purpleshort.mov] \defineoverlay [theimage] [{\externalfigure[themovie][width=\overlaywidth,height= \overlayheight,type=jpg]}] starttext \hfill\framed[offset=0pt,strut=no,background={foreground,theimage}] {\placerenderingwindow[movie][themovie]}\hfill\null

As you can seen I placed the movie in a framed. This because I wanted the still image showing over it (you mentioned a "preview=yes" I will later experiment with it. I guess it also will work here?

not sure, but overlays are ok (since the undocumented behaviour of viewers is that the annots end up on top when activated, they have their own rendering layer (and as a side effect cannot be made invisible in pdf layers; a typical example of pdf feature creap without forseeing implicationswhich then needs to be repaired in later pdf specs/viewers)

The PROBLEM I encountered was that I thought to change the renderingwindow's background with a local call to \setuprenderingwindow[movie][parameters leading to the overlay as in framed] but to no avail. Maybe I did something wrong here? Could it be with the naming and/or the number of parameters in the setup?

dunno, if you send me a zip with all resources and a small test file i can have a look

Anyway, the stuff seems to work. From your answer I guess a sort of manual is still far way. Pity.

well, it should go in the widgets manual, but only when the pdf specs is stable for this; there is some example code in the x-res files (media libraires and so)

If you can spare some further hints, if necessary, I will be grateful as always.

Hans

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