Hello I'm getting to grips with page layout and hope that it will be possible to set up crop marks on all four corners of each page. Currently when I give 'marking=on' I'm getting a crop mark top left on an odd-numbered page and top right on an even-numbered page, and it does look as if these are in the correct position; but the printer will want all four corners of each page to be demarcated, and I haven't found a setting to achieve that. Best wishes John *🇪🇺 * Слава Україні! * 🇺🇦* http://www.avg.com/email-signature?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail Virus-free.www.avg.com http://www.avg.com/email-signature?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail <#DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2>
Am 18.06.25 um 12:08 schrieb John Was:
I'm getting to grips with page layout and hope that it will be possible to set up crop marks on all four corners of each page. Currently when I give 'marking=on' I'm getting a crop mark top left on an odd-numbered page and top right on an even-numbered page, and it does look as if these are in the correct position; but the printer will want all four corners of each page to be demarcated, and I haven't found a setting to achieve that.
You need \setuplayout[location=middle,marking=on] and of course a bigger sheet size than page size: https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Command/setuppapersize Hraban
Dear Hraban
Thanks - I had these settings already but had given far too large a
veroffset. By reducing the veroffset I have the printed page further up on
the A4 sheet so that the bottom crop marks now show up. But I'm still
getting only two (at the left) on an odd page and two (on the right) on an
even page. Very odd!
Best wishes
John *🇪🇺 * Слава Україні!
* 🇺🇦*
On Wed, 18 Jun 2025 at 12:19, Henning Hraban Ramm
Am 18.06.25 um 12:08 schrieb John Was:
I'm getting to grips with page layout and hope that it will be possible to set up crop marks on all four corners of each page. Currently when I give 'marking=on' I'm getting a crop mark top left on an odd-numbered page and top right on an even-numbered page, and it does look as if these are in the correct position; but the printer will want all four corners of each page to be demarcated, and I haven't found a setting to achieve that.
You need
\setuplayout[location=middle,marking=on]
and of course a bigger sheet size than page size:
https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Command/setuppapersize
Hraban
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Am 18.06.25 um 14:51 schrieb John Was:
Thanks - I had these settings already but had given far too large a veroffset. By reducing the veroffset I have the printed page further up on the A4 sheet so that the bottom crop marks now show up. But I'm still getting only two (at the left) on an odd page and two (on the right) on an even page. Very odd!
Please show this in a minimal example. The following works for me: \setuppapersize[A4][A4,oversized] \setuplayout[location=middle,marking=on] \starttext \showlayout \stoptext Hraban
Hello Hraban
I have no doubt been feeding in erroneous information in the layout, and
not giving ConTexT what it really needs (and in fact all I really require
is typeset page 24 picas wide, 40 picas deep, with a headline 12 point
above the top line of text). At any rate, here is what I have so far (the
width of 627points is supposed to account for margin and edge areas, and
the height of 522 points is experimental - actually not enough as the lower
crop marks come into the text area):
\definepapersize[OUPoctavo][width=627pt, height=522pt]%offset=100pt?
\setuppapersize[OUPoctavo][A4] % paper size, printed on A4
\definelayout[GHIL]
[edge=48pt,
edgedistance=6pt,
margin=72pt,
margindistance=6pt,
topspace=48pt,
header=12pt,
headerdistance=12pt,
height=40pc,
width=24pc,
footerdistance=6pt,
footer=12pt,
bottomdistance=12pt,
bottom=36pt,
location=middle,
marking=on,
horoffset=60pt,
veroffset=0pt,
paper=OUPoctavo,
cutspace=0pt]
\setuplayout[GHIL]
Best wishes
John *🇪🇺 * Слава Україні!
* 🇺🇦*
On Wed, 18 Jun 2025 at 14:00, Henning Hraban Ramm
Am 18.06.25 um 14:51 schrieb John Was:
Thanks - I had these settings already but had given far too large a veroffset. By reducing the veroffset I have the printed page further up on the A4 sheet so that the bottom crop marks now show up. But I'm still getting only two (at the left) on an odd page and two (on the right) on an even page. Very odd!
Please show this in a minimal example. The following works for me:
\setuppapersize[A4][A4,oversized] \setuplayout[location=middle,marking=on]
\starttext \showlayout \stoptext
Hraban
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Am 18.06.25 um 15:16 schrieb John Was:
Hello Hraban
I have no doubt been feeding in erroneous information in the layout, and not giving ConTexT what it really needs (and in fact all I really require is typeset page 24 picas wide, 40 picas deep, with a headline 12 point above the top line of text). At any rate, here is what I have so far (the width of 627points is supposed to account for margin and edge areas, and the height of 522 points is experimental - actually not enough as the lower crop marks come into the text area):
\definepapersize[OUPoctavo][width=627pt, height=522pt]%offset=100pt?
\setuppapersize[OUPoctavo][A4] % paper size, printed on A4
\definelayout[GHIL] [edge=48pt, edgedistance=6pt, margin=72pt, margindistance=6pt, topspace=48pt, header=12pt, headerdistance=12pt, height=40pc, width=24pc, footerdistance=6pt, footer=12pt, bottomdistance=12pt, bottom=36pt, location=middle, marking=on, horoffset=60pt, veroffset=0pt, paper=OUPoctavo, cutspace=0pt] \setuplayout[GHIL]
These are far too many settings, that usually makes no sense and I doubt you need all of them. At least horoffset and veroffset disturb the page placement on the sheet. There are instructions how to setup a layout properly somewhere in the wiki, but since it was restructured, I can’t find anything any more. Hraban
Dear Hraban
Thanks - and it's reassuring to see that I'm not the only one looking
around for info - though on the way I'm finding much that will be of great
interest and use.
I've eliminated some of these options and have got all of my cropmarks now
- though I have to lie to ConTexT about the vertical space between
them, curiously (I have to say the paper height is 214mm in order to get
the cropmarks printing at 216mm). Never mind - I'm happy if it works!
Best wishes
John *🇪🇺 * Слава Україні!
* 🇺🇦*
On Wed, 18 Jun 2025 at 14:56, Henning Hraban Ramm
Am 18.06.25 um 15:16 schrieb John Was:
Hello Hraban
I have no doubt been feeding in erroneous information in the layout, and not giving ConTexT what it really needs (and in fact all I really require is typeset page 24 picas wide, 40 picas deep, with a headline 12 point above the top line of text). At any rate, here is what I have so far (the width of 627points is supposed to account for margin and edge areas, and the height of 522 points is experimental - actually not enough as the lower crop marks come into the text area):
\definepapersize[OUPoctavo][width=627pt, height=522pt]%offset=100pt?
\setuppapersize[OUPoctavo][A4] % paper size, printed on A4
\definelayout[GHIL] [edge=48pt, edgedistance=6pt, margin=72pt, margindistance=6pt, topspace=48pt, header=12pt, headerdistance=12pt, height=40pc, width=24pc, footerdistance=6pt, footer=12pt, bottomdistance=12pt, bottom=36pt, location=middle, marking=on, horoffset=60pt, veroffset=0pt, paper=OUPoctavo, cutspace=0pt] \setuplayout[GHIL]
These are far too many settings, that usually makes no sense and I doubt you need all of them. At least horoffset and veroffset disturb the page placement on the sheet.
There are instructions how to setup a layout properly somewhere in the wiki, but since it was restructured, I can’t find anything any more.
Hraban
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