Hi Otared, Many thanks. Could you kindly open the pdf I sent as well? How does that look? Here, on Windows 11, the bars do not appear on sumatra, adobe, or nitropdf. Best wishes Idris ------ Original Message ------ From "Otared Kavian" mailto:otared@gmail.com> To "Hamid,Idris" mailto:Idris.Hamid@ColoState.EDU>; "mailing list for ConTeXt users" mailto:ntg-context@ntg.nl> Date 10/24/2023 7:18:40 AM Subject Re: [NTG-context] sidebar and marginrule not working ** Caution: EXTERNAL Sender ** Hi Idris, Your code works fine on my machine (version 2023.09.26 18:19 LMTX on MacOS 11.7.10). I see both bars correctly. Best regards: Otared On 24 Oct 2023, at 02:24, Hamid,Idris mailto:Idris.Hamid@ColoState.EDU> wrote: Dear gang, The appears to be something wrong with the sidebar and marginrule mechanisms. MWE: ============== % ConTeXt ver: 2023.09.26 18:19 LMTX \setupmarginrule[1][rulecolor=darkred] \definesidebar[Sidebar][rulethickness=0.28pt,distance=3pt,rulecolor=darkgreen] \setupsidebar[rulecolor=darkgreen] \starttext \startmarginrule[1] \input ward \stopmarginrule \blank \startsidebar[Sidebar] \input zapf \stopsidebar \stoptext ============== In the output, either i) the rules do not appear at all (most attempts); or ii) the rules appear for a split-second then disappear (using sumatrapdf as the viewer, so the pdf updates on the fly). Is is a bug? A second question: Is either mechanism preferable over the other? That is: In LMTX, what is the best mechanism to use? Thank you in advance for any guidance. Best wishes -- Idris Samawi Hamid, Professor Department of Philosophy Colorado State University Fort Collins, CO 80523 ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nlmailto:ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://mailman.ntg.nl/mailman3/lists/ntg-context.ntg.nl webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nlhttps://www.pragma-ade.nl/ / https://context.aanhet.nethttps://context.aanhet.net/ (mirror) archive : https://github.com/contextgarden/context wiki : https://wiki.contextgarden.nethttps://wiki.contextgarden.net/ ___________________________________________________________________________________ Otared Kavian e-mail: otared@gmail.commailto:otared@gmail.com Phone: +33 6 88 26 70 95 -- Idris Samawi Hamid, Professor Department of Philosophy Colorado State University Fort Collins, CO 80523

------ Original Message ------ From "Henning Hraban Ramm" mailto:texml@fiee.net> To "ntg-context@ntg.nlmailto:ntg-context@ntg.nl" mailto:ntg-context@ntg.nl> Date 10/24/2023 8:04:34 AM Subject [NTG-context] Re: sidebar and marginrule not working ** Caution: EXTERNAL Sender ** Am 24.10.23 um 15:33 schrieb Hamid,Idris: Hi Otared, Many thanks. Could you kindly open the pdf I sent as well? How does that look? Here, on Windows 11, the bars do not appear on sumatra, adobe, or nitropdf. I checked on MacOS with Preview, Acrobat Pro and PDF Studio – no bars in your PDF. But your code gives apparently correct results on my machine, ConTeXt ver: 2023.09.26 18:19 LMTX fmt: 2023.10.19 Maybe try to re-make the format? Check all files in the log – is there something from a local/personal texmf tree? Many thanks, Henning. I tried remaking the format, updating -- to no avail. The log doesn't seem to show anything unusual, no texmf-project files, etc. Finally, I shutdown and restarted the system, on the premise that some pdf library or other file is acting up. And voila! it seems to work now -- see attached. It remains a mystery as to what could possibly have caused this problem, or why a system restart made it go away. Hopefully the problem will not return, but we'll see.. Thanks to all who replied. Best wishes -- Idris Samawi Hamid, Professor Department of Philosophy Colorado State University Fort Collins, CO 80523