In ConTeXt, \cal, \frak and \goth (etc) are considered "text only" commands. To use them in math mode one has to use \gothing, \fraktur, \calligraphic etc, which make a temporary switch to text mode. This is contrary to the LaTeX expectations, where $\cal ABC$ makes all three letters calligraphic. How could such a thing be achieved in ConTeXt? -- Giuseppe "Oblomov" Bilotta
I don't understand the problem.
$\cal ABC$ does make all three letters calligraphic in ConTeXt, at least in
my system.
Francisco V Leung
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From: "Giuseppe Bilotta"
In ConTeXt, \cal, \frak and \goth (etc) are considered "text only" commands. To use them in math mode one has to use \gothing, \fraktur, \calligraphic etc, which make a temporary switch to text mode. This is contrary to the LaTeX expectations, where $\cal ABC$ makes all three letters calligraphic. How could such a thing be achieved in ConTeXt?
-- Giuseppe "Oblomov" Bilotta
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Friday, May 9, 2003 Francisco V Leung wrote: FVL> I don't understand the problem. FVL> $\cal ABC$ does make all three letters calligraphic in ConTeXt, at least in FVL> my system. Not in mine. \starttext $\cal ABC$ \stoptext gives normal (math, italic) type ... -- Giuseppe "Oblomov" Bilotta
Could the problem have something to do with the version of the system?
I use pdfTeX Version 3.14159-14h-released-20010417 (Web2C 7.3.3.1) on SuSE
Linux 7.2 with ConTeXt ver: 2002.10.23.
By the way, this version of ConTeXt has a problem with \angle in math mode:
the Acrobat Reader will complain of missing font when I use \angle.
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From: "Giuseppe Bilotta"
Friday, May 9, 2003 Francisco V Leung wrote:
FVL> I don't understand the problem.
FVL> $\cal ABC$ does make all three letters calligraphic in ConTeXt, at least in FVL> my system.
Not in mine.
\starttext $\cal ABC$ \stoptext
gives normal (math, italic) type ...
-- Giuseppe "Oblomov" Bilotta
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Saturday, May 10, 2003 Francisco V Leung wrote: FVL> Could the problem have something to do with the version of the system? FVL> I use pdfTeX Version 3.14159-14h-released-20010417 (Web2C 7.3.3.1) on SuSE FVL> Linux 7.2 with ConTeXt ver: 2002.10.23. FVL> By the way, this version of ConTeXt has a problem FVL> with \angle in math mode: FVL> the Acrobat Reader will complain of missing font when I use \angle. I have version 2003.04.29. Yes, there have been many changes, and along the fixes to your problems (you should upgrade!) there have been also some changes in approach to font handling. I'm not going to suggest a change in the core, since the current approach seems to be the one preferred by Hans. Rather, I'll implement the relative changes in a separate module specifically designed for AMS-LaTeX compatibility. Hans: there's a bug in your current implementation: in font-ini.tex there's a line reading: \def\caligraphic#1{\mathortext\mathtext\donothing{\cal #1}} while it should read \def\calligraphic#1{\mathortext\mathtext\donothing{\cal #1}} (two ells) -- Giuseppe "Oblomov" Bilotta
At 17:21 10/05/2003 +0200, you wrote:
I'm not going to suggest a change in the core, since the current approach seems to be the one preferred by Hans. Rather, I'll implement the relative changes in a separate module specifically designed for AMS-LaTeX compatibility.
changing it now would result in reverting to previous behavior, and then request for other behavior .. so we keep circling We can make this configurable wong with more things (stable thingies can move to the newmath module (m-newmat) [my stepwise growing math module with configurable math; gb's not too latex specific goodies may go in there when approved -)] [features like calligraphic are rather font dependent and currently can be configured by remapping fonts and families; tricky things]
Hans: there's a bug in your current implementation: in font-ini.tex there's a line reading:
\def\calligraphic#1{\mathortext\mathtext\donothing{\cal #1}}
ok done, also in mult-con? Hans ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE | pragma@wxs.nl Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: +31 (0)38 477 53 69 | fax: +31 (0)38 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------- information: http://www.pragma-ade.com/roadmap.pdf documentation: http://www.pragma-ade.com/showcase.pdf -------------------------------------------------------------------------
Monday, May 12, 2003 Hans Hagen wrote: HH> At 17:21 10/05/2003 +0200, you wrote:
I'm not going to suggest a change in the core, since the current approach seems to be the one preferred by Hans. Rather, I'll implement the relative changes in a separate module specifically designed for AMS-LaTeX compatibility.
HH> changing it now would result in reverting to previous behavior, and then HH> request for other behavior .. so we keep circling HH> We can make this configurable wong with more things (stable thingies can HH> move to the newmath module (m-newmat) [my stepwise growing math module with HH> configurable math; gb's not too latex specific goodies may go in there when HH> approved -)] We can discuss this in Hawaii, if you're coming there. BTW, I'm now torn between presenting the math stuff (rather incomplete) or presenting e-Omega 1.15--2.1, now that it seems to pass the trip test. What would you suggest? HH> [features like calligraphic are rather font dependent and currently can be HH> configured by remapping fonts and families; tricky things]
Hans: there's a bug in your current implementation: in font-ini.tex there's a line reading:
\def\calligraphic#1{\mathortext\mathtext\donothing{\cal #1}}
HH> ok done, also in mult-con? Haven't looked into it I must say :) -- Giuseppe "Oblomov" Bilotta
At 00:59 13/05/2003 +0200, Giuseppe Bilotta wrote:
We can discuss this in Hawaii, if you're coming there. BTW, I'm
i'll be there (in the committee actually so i have to come)
now torn between presenting the math stuff (rather incomplete) or presenting e-Omega 1.15--2.1, now that it seems to pass the trip test. What would you suggest?
eomega would be fun esp if it could run a decent large job without problems maybe there's room for two talks: math + a small e-omega one (i'll ask) Hans ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE | pragma@wxs.nl Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: +31 (0)38 477 53 69 | fax: +31 (0)38 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------- information: http://www.pragma-ade.com/roadmap.pdf documentation: http://www.pragma-ade.com/showcase.pdf -------------------------------------------------------------------------
participants (4)
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Francisco V Leung
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Giuseppe Bilotta
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Hans Hagen
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Slawek Zak