On Dec 18, 2007 2:48 PM, Santy, Michael wrote:

I see on the wiki that there are plans to create a "stable", "beta", and "broken" branches of the new minimals distribution on minimals.contextgarden.net.

Well, that thing with "broken" was more like a joke :)

Is the eventual goal of this to replace the current mechanism for obtaining minimals and cont-tmf as zip files from Pragma? If so, when is this change over set to happen?

The main advantage is that it consumes less bandwidth (only downloads newer files) and that the binaries and fonts are updated together with ConTeXt :) I use that one already, and it seems to work OK in most respects. There's the latest ConTeXt, latest fonts, and more-or-less the latest binaries for every platform. But some things (most notaly the documentation and some font metrics that ship with PRAGMA's zips) are missing. And it would be nice to have some code which would enable one to use local configuration for deciding which fonts/modules/engines to use. Etc etc. (Also: when I rebuild the minimals, files might be out of sync - say, new ConTeXt, but old LuaTeX for Mac PPC and Linux 64. Or accidentally copying mac binaries to Linux, some files in Akira's W32TeX or fonts renamed ... Some basic testing should become part of the game as well.) I would say: you are free to use it, but the location and details may still change (any feedback is welcome though). The starting point is here: http://minimals.contextgarden.net/setup/ or here: http://minimals.contextgarden.net/pragma/ (two different things - the second one is more similar to PRAGMA, but both strategies should result in the same set of files) Once the method is stable and ready, it will be announced, but I don't find it has reached that point yet. Here's an old unfinished message that I keep in drafts for quite some time already: ---------------------- Hello, a while back I have started experimenting with svn/rsync (together with Arthur, Hans and Taco) since I thought that downloading of "standalone zips" each time something had been updated was an unnecessary loss of bandwidth and time. == What? == For those who want it served in two words: at http://minimals.contextgarden.net/pragma/ there are equivalent (but *not* identical !!!) zips as on Hans's page. == Why? == I have put them there for two main reasons: - to get some feedback about their (missing) functionality - because the ones on Pragma are slightly outdated (and I suspect that Hans might be waiting for the new minimals to appear and waits with updating the zips exactly for that reason) == WARNING == Now a big warning sign: the location of those files might and probably *will change*. (We're also running out of disk space on the garden. I have no idea when the bandwidth will reach its limit, but let's hope that it will suffice for now.) So: feel free to download, test and use those files, but do *not* rely on that location or whatever else util announced. Use at your own risk until that timepoint. Also note that this is *not* (at least not yet) any official release of the Standalone distribution. It might replace it in future, but at the moment it is completely independent. == Main difference with the files on Pragma == "Incompatible" differences: - texmf-local renamed to texmf-context (texmf-local is really meant for local stuff) - texmf-macosx renamed (split into osx-intel and osx-ppc) What's there: - the latest binaries for almost all the platforms - the latest versions of fonts, including TeX Gyre, and including OpenType versions of all the Polish fonts - the latest version of ConTeXt - man pages (thanks to Sanjoy and others - feel free to send updates) - the same set of modules as in Hans's distro + t-tikz - support for Solaris added, other platforms might be added on request rather easily (if anyone is willing to provide the binaries for XeTeX and LuaTeX) Missing: - documentation & licences for just about everything except modules - there's no mswincontext (yet) - fixing other things has a priority at the moment, and one can still take the old mswincontext and replace only the relevant parts - quite some font files in comparison to Hans's distribution (I need to figure out which are the important ones) - *you* need to tell if you miss something else - backup on the server Updating is "semiautomatic". That means that someone needs to submit new binaries (XeTeX, LuaTeX) manually (except for Windows), fonts and ConTeXt are fetched and rearranged automatically, but the main update script is still triggered manually (for the moment).