[OT] − RobotoSlab Italics… or not
Hi folks, I'm working on a Roboto typescript and starting from the work done by Zen Lima back in last July, I would like to push things further. Since I work on some Android projects and use Google Keep mostly on a daily basis, I was surprised to not find italics for the RobotoSlab (either on the web or by extracting the assets of the Keep package). Why am I surprised: Keep do have serif title placeholders for the new note EditText and I see it everyday! $ mtxrun --script font --list --all --pattern=robotoslab robotoslab robotoslabbold RobotoSlab-Bold.ttf robotoslabbold robotoslabbold RobotoSlab-Bold.ttf robotoslablight robotoslablight RobotoSlab-Light.ttf robotoslabregular robotoslabregular RobotoSlab-Regular.ttf robotoslabthin robotoslabthin RobotoSlab-Thin.ttf OK, RobotoSlab fonts are accessible and I have a working typescript to use RobotoSlab with ConTeXt MkIV (I'll made the git repo public soon). At first, my thoughts are: nevermind the Slab italics but now, I'm curious since Inkscape, LibreOffice, … propose the italic and bolditalic features of the RobotoSlab (check out the attached font-manager screenshot). I've worked with different kind of fonts'family (more or less complete) and used and modified many typescripts in my ConTeXter's life but there I should be missing something obvious. Where are the RobotoSlab Italics??? My experience is that italic and bolditalic should correspond to files… First guess: no files so the RobotoSlab Italic and BoldItalic features are just faked ones composed by my GNU/Linux Debian system. No, I must be wrong here too… Any thoughts on "The Quest of the Hidden Italics of the RobotoSlab fonts!"? Best Regards, Renaud
Am 23.11.2013 um 18:51 schrieb Renaud Aubin
Hi folks,
I'm working on a Roboto typescript and starting from the work done by Zen Lima back in last July, I would like to push things further. Since I work on some Android projects and use Google Keep mostly on a daily basis, I was surprised to not find italics for the RobotoSlab (either on the web or by extracting the assets of the Keep package).
Why am I surprised: Keep do have serif title placeholders for the new note EditText and I see it everyday!
$ mtxrun --script font --list --all --pattern=robotoslab
robotoslab robotoslabbold RobotoSlab-Bold.ttf robotoslabbold robotoslabbold RobotoSlab-Bold.ttf robotoslablight robotoslablight RobotoSlab-Light.ttf robotoslabregular robotoslabregular RobotoSlab-Regular.ttf robotoslabthin robotoslabthin RobotoSlab-Thin.ttf
OK, RobotoSlab fonts are accessible and I have a working typescript to use RobotoSlab with ConTeXt MkIV (I'll made the git repo public soon). At first, my thoughts are: nevermind the Slab italics but now, I'm curious since Inkscape, LibreOffice, … propose the italic and bolditalic features of the RobotoSlab (check out the attached font-manager screenshot). I've worked with different kind of fonts'family (more or less complete) and used and modified many typescripts in my ConTeXter's life but there I should be missing something obvious. Where are the RobotoSlab Italics??? My experience is that italic and bolditalic should correspond to files… First guess: no files so the RobotoSlab Italic and BoldItalic features are just faked ones composed by my GNU/Linux Debian system. No, I must be wrong here too…
Any thoughts on "The Quest of the Hidden Italics of the RobotoSlab fonts!“?
The font has no italic but inkscape slants the regular and bold styles to get them, you can do the same in context with the slant key from \definefontfeature. \definefontfeature[slanted][default][mode=base,slant=.25] \definefontfamily[roboto][rm][Roboto Slab][it=features:slanted,bi=features:slanted] \setupbodyfont[roboto] \starttext Regular {\it Italic} {\bf Bold} {\bi BoldItalic} \stoptext Wolfgang
Le 23/11/2013 19:08, Wolfgang Schuster a écrit :
Am 23.11.2013 um 18:51 schrieb Renaud Aubin
: Hi folks,
I'm working on a Roboto typescript and starting from the work done by Zen Lima back in last July, I would like to push things further. Since I work on some Android projects and use Google Keep mostly on a daily basis, I was surprised to not find italics for the RobotoSlab (either on the web or by extracting the assets of the Keep package).
Why am I surprised: Keep do have serif title placeholders for the new note EditText and I see it everyday!
$ mtxrun --script font --list --all --pattern=robotoslab
robotoslab robotoslabbold RobotoSlab-Bold.ttf robotoslabbold robotoslabbold RobotoSlab-Bold.ttf robotoslablight robotoslablight RobotoSlab-Light.ttf robotoslabregular robotoslabregular RobotoSlab-Regular.ttf robotoslabthin robotoslabthin RobotoSlab-Thin.ttf
OK, RobotoSlab fonts are accessible and I have a working typescript to use RobotoSlab with ConTeXt MkIV (I'll made the git repo public soon). At first, my thoughts are: nevermind the Slab italics but now, I'm curious since Inkscape, LibreOffice, … propose the italic and bolditalic features of the RobotoSlab (check out the attached font-manager screenshot). I've worked with different kind of fonts'family (more or less complete) and used and modified many typescripts in my ConTeXter's life but there I should be missing something obvious. Where are the RobotoSlab Italics??? My experience is that italic and bolditalic should correspond to files… First guess: no files so the RobotoSlab Italic and BoldItalic features are just faked ones composed by my GNU/Linux Debian system. No, I must be wrong here too…
Any thoughts on "The Quest of the Hidden Italics of the RobotoSlab fonts!“?
The font has no italic but inkscape slants the regular and bold styles to get them, you can do the same in context with the slant key from \definefontfeature.
\definefontfeature[slanted][default][mode=base,slant=.25]
\definefontfamily[roboto][rm][Roboto Slab][it=features:slanted,bi=features:slanted]
\setupbodyfont[roboto]
\starttext Regular {\it Italic} {\bf Bold} {\bi BoldItalic} \stoptext
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Thank you Wolfgang, I've made a repo: https://github.com/nibua-r/roboto-context Reviews are always welcome! Any chance that this typescript could find a way to the main ConTeXt distro? Renaud
On 11/23/2013 8:25 PM, Renaud Aubin wrote:
Le 23/11/2013 19:08, Wolfgang Schuster a écrit :
Am 23.11.2013 um 18:51 schrieb Renaud Aubin
: Hi folks,
I'm working on a Roboto typescript and starting from the work done by Zen Lima back in last July, I would like to push things further. Since I work on some Android projects and use Google Keep mostly on a daily basis, I was surprised to not find italics for the RobotoSlab (either on the web or by extracting the assets of the Keep package).
Why am I surprised: Keep do have serif title placeholders for the new note EditText and I see it everyday!
$ mtxrun --script font --list --all --pattern=robotoslab
robotoslab robotoslabbold RobotoSlab-Bold.ttf robotoslabbold robotoslabbold RobotoSlab-Bold.ttf robotoslablight robotoslablight RobotoSlab-Light.ttf robotoslabregular robotoslabregular RobotoSlab-Regular.ttf robotoslabthin robotoslabthin RobotoSlab-Thin.ttf
OK, RobotoSlab fonts are accessible and I have a working typescript to use RobotoSlab with ConTeXt MkIV (I'll made the git repo public soon). At first, my thoughts are: nevermind the Slab italics but now, I'm curious since Inkscape, LibreOffice, … propose the italic and bolditalic features of the RobotoSlab (check out the attached font-manager screenshot). I've worked with different kind of fonts'family (more or less complete) and used and modified many typescripts in my ConTeXter's life but there I should be missing something obvious. Where are the RobotoSlab Italics??? My experience is that italic and bolditalic should correspond to files… First guess: no files so the RobotoSlab Italic and BoldItalic features are just faked ones composed by my GNU/Linux Debian system. No, I must be wrong here too…
Any thoughts on "The Quest of the Hidden Italics of the RobotoSlab fonts!“?
The font has no italic but inkscape slants the regular and bold styles to get them, you can do the same in context with the slant key from \definefontfeature.
\definefontfeature[slanted][default][mode=base,slant=.25]
\definefontfamily[roboto][rm][Roboto Slab][it=features:slanted,bi=features:slanted]
\setupbodyfont[roboto]
\starttext Regular {\it Italic} {\bf Bold} {\bi BoldItalic} \stoptext
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Thank you Wolfgang,
I've made a repo: https://github.com/nibua-r/roboto-context Reviews are always welcome!
Any chance that this typescript could find a way to the main ConTeXt distro?
normally typescripts like that end up in tex/context/third (maybe at some point we can collect extra typescripts in one package) a few suggestions: \definefontfeature[slanted][default][mode=base,slant=.25] best define "roboto-slanted" as you don't want to overload other definitions of slanted and this is rather font specific .. and are you sure you want base mode here? \definefontfeature[roboto-slanted][slant=.25] \definefontsynonym [\s!SerifItalic] [\s!Serif] [\s!features={default,roboto-slanted}] should also work and delays default also, name type typescript type-imp-roboto.tex (or .mkiv) Hans ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | voip: 087 875 68 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl -----------------------------------------------------------------
Hi Hans, Thank you for the review and your suggestions! Le 24/11/2013 12:53, Hans Hagen a écrit :
normally typescripts like that end up in tex/context/third (maybe at some point we can collect extra typescripts in one package)
https://github.com/nibua-r/roboto-context/issues/1 Extra typescripts collection is a good idea. I have at least some typescripts here for Minion, Meta, frutiger, … Any other contributed typescripts are welcome!
a few suggestions:
\definefontfeature[slanted][default][mode=base,slant=.25]
best define "roboto-slanted" as you don't want to overload other definitions of slanted and this is rather font specific .. and are you sure you want base mode here?
https://github.com/nibua-r/roboto-context/issues/2
\definefontfeature[roboto-slanted][slant=.25]
\definefontsynonym [\s!SerifItalic] [\s!Serif] [\s!features={default,roboto-slanted}]
should also work and delays default
RobotoSlab doesn't get slanted without mode=base and/or features={default,roboto-slanted}. I can't explain why but maybe Wolfgang could explain since he is the one who provided the solution in the first place. https://github.com/nibua-r/roboto-context/issues/3 https://github.com/nibua-r/roboto-context/issues/4
also, name type typescript type-imp-roboto.tex (or .mkiv)
https://github.com/nibua-r/roboto-context/issues/1
Hans
Best Regards, Renaud
Am 24.11.2013 um 12:53 schrieb Hans Hagen
Any chance that this typescript could find a way to the main ConTeXt distro?
normally typescripts like that end up in tex/context/third (maybe at some point we can collect extra typescripts in one package)
I can add it to my typescript collection.
a few suggestions:
\definefontfeature[slanted][default][mode=base,slant=.25]
best define "roboto-slanted" as you don't want to overload other definitions of slanted and this is rather font specific .. and are you sure you want base mode here?
Yes it is necessary because it doesn’t work when you use node mode.
\definefontfeature[roboto-slanted][slant=.25]
\definefontsynonym [\s!SerifItalic] [\s!Serif] [\s!features={default,roboto-slanted}]
should also work and delays default
This older doesn’t work, only with “robot-slanted,default” the font gets slanted.
also, name type typescript type-imp-roboto.tex (or .mkiv)
Why *imp* for third party typescripts? Wolfgang
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