Strange behavior with the Garamond font

Fabrice Couvreur

17 Aug 2017 17 Aug '17

6:28 p.m.

Hello, I compiled the following document with Context Standalone and viewed the file with Evince, it is not readable ! Thanks Fabrice \loadtypescriptfile[mathdesign] \setupbodyfont[garamond] \starttext \input knuth \stoptext

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Pablo Rodriguez

17 Aug 17 Aug

7:03 p.m.

On 08/17/2017 08:28 PM, Fabrice Couvreur wrote:

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Hello, I compiled the following document with Context Standalone and viewed the file with Evince, it is not readable !

Hi Fabrice, I copied the fonts from http://wiki.contextgarden.net/URW_Garamond to tex/texmf-fonts/ and I got a PDF document with the font embedded (output attached). Before doing that, I couldn’t compile your source. What do you mean by a document not being readable? Is it properly displayed with xpdf or MuPDF? Does pdffonts list any font in the document? Does the log file reveal anything about the font? Which version do you use? (Use \contextversion in your source.) BTW, I don’t know whether this is intended, but I don’t get no fi or fl ligatures. Just in case it helps, Pablo -- http://www.ousia.tk

Fabrice Couvreur

9:11 p.m.

Hi Pablo, When I speak of non-readable, I mean it looks like "hieroglyphics". fab@debian:~$ mtxrun --script fonts --list --pattern=garamond --all resolvers | trees | analyzing 'home:texmf' identifier familyname fontname filename subfont instances cormorantgaramondbold cormorantgaramond cormorantgaramondbold CormorantGaramond-Bold.otf cormorantgaramondbolditalic cormorantgaramond cormorantgaramondbolditalic CormorantGaramond-BoldItalic.otf cormorantgaramonddemi cormorantgaramond cormorantgaramondsemibold CormorantGaramond-SemiBold.otf cormorantgaramonditalic cormorantgaramond cormorantgaramonditalic CormorantGaramond-RegularItalic.otf cormorantgaramondlight cormorantgaramond cormorantgaramondlight CormorantGaramond-Light.otf cormorantgaramondlightitalic cormorantgaramond cormorantgaramondlightitalic CormorantGaramond-LightItalic.otf cormorantgaramondmedium cormorantgaramond cormorantgaramondmedium CormorantGaramond-Medium.otf cormorantgaramondmediumitalic cormorantgaramond cormorantgaramondmediumitalic CormorantGaramond-MediumItalic.otf cormorantgaramondnormal cormorantgaramond cormorantgaramondregular CormorantGaramond-Regular.otf cormorantgaramondregular cormorantgaramond cormorantgaramondregular CormorantGaramond-Regular.otf cormorantgaramondsemibold cormorantgaramond cormorantgaramondsemibold CormorantGaramond-SemiBold.otf cormorantgaramondsemibolditalic cormorantgaramond cormorantgaramondsemibolditalic CormorantGaramond-SemiBoldItalic.otf ebgaramond12italic ebgaramond ebgaramond12italic EBGaramond12-Italic.otf ebgaramond12regular ebgaramond ebgaramond12regular EBGaramond12-Regular.otf ebgaramondinitials ebgaramondinitials ebgaramondinitials EBGaramondInitials.otf ebgaramondinitialsnormal ebgaramondinitials ebgaramondinitials EBGaramondInitials.otf ebgaramondinitialsregular ebgaramondinitials ebgaramondinitials EBGaramondInitials.otf ebgaramonditalic ebgaramond ebgaramond12italic EBGaramond12-Italic.otf ebgaramondnormal ebgaramond ebgaramond12italic EBGaramond12-Italic.otf ebgaramondregular ebgaramond ebgaramond12regular EBGaramond12-Regular.otf garamondno8ita garamondno8 garamondno8ita ugmri8a.afm garamondno8italic garamondno8 garamondno8ita ugmri8a.afm garamondno8med garamondno8 garamondno8med ugmm8a.afm garamondno8medita garamondno8 garamondno8medita ugmmi8a.afm garamondno8medium garamondno8 garamondno8med ugmm8a.afm garamondno8mediumitalic garamondno8 garamondno8medita ugmmi8a.afm garamondno8normal garamondno8 garamondno8reg ugmr8a.afm garamondno8reg garamondno8 garamondno8reg ugmr8a.afm garamondno8regular garamondno8 garamondno8reg ugmr8a.afm vngaramondno8ita vngaramondno8 vngaramondno8ita ugmri8v.afm vngaramondno8italic vngaramondno8 vngaramondno8ita ugmri8v.afm vngaramondno8med vngaramondno8 vngaramondno8med ugmm8v.afm vngaramondno8medita vngaramondno8 vngaramondno8medita ugmmi8v.afm vngaramondno8medium vngaramondno8 vngaramondno8med ugmm8v.afm vngaramondno8mediumitalic vngaramondno8 vngaramondno8medita ugmmi8v.afm vngaramondno8normal vngaramondno8 vngaramondno8reg ugmr8v.afm vngaramondno8reg vngaramondno8 vngaramondno8reg ugmr8v.afm vngaramondno8regular vngaramondno8 vngaramondno8reg ugmr8v.afm fab@debian:~$ Thanks Fabrice 2017-08-17 21:03 GMT+02:00 Pablo Rodriguez :

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On 08/17/2017 08:28 PM, Fabrice Couvreur wrote:

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Hello, I compiled the following document with Context Standalone and viewed the file with Evince, it is not readable !

Hi Fabrice,

I copied the fonts from http://wiki.contextgarden.net/URW_Garamond to tex/texmf-fonts/ and I got a PDF document with the font embedded (output attached).

Before doing that, I couldn’t compile your source.

What do you mean by a document not being readable? Is it properly displayed with xpdf or MuPDF?

Does pdffonts list any font in the document? Does the log file reveal anything about the font?

Which version do you use? (Use \contextversion in your source.)

BTW, I don’t know whether this is intended, but I don’t get no fi or fl ligatures.

Just in case it helps,

Pablo -- http://www.ousia.tk

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Pablo Rodriguez

18 Aug 18 Aug

6:14 p.m.

On 08/17/2017 11:11 PM, Fabrice Couvreur wrote:

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Hi Pablo, When I speak of non-readable, I mean it looks like "hieroglyphics".

fab@debian:~$ mtxrun --script fonts --list --pattern=garamond --all

Hi Fabrice, sorry, I asked you to use pdffonts on the output PDF document to check which font it is embedded.

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From my outuput, I get:

$ pdffonts a.pdf name type encoding emb sub uni object ID -------------------------- ---------- ---------- --- --- --- --------- WKSCSW+GaramondNo8-Regular CID Type 0C Identity-H yes yes yes 10 0 Just in case it helps, Pablo -- http://www.ousia.tk

Aditya Mahajan

6:17 p.m.

On Thu, 17 Aug 2017, Fabrice Couvreur wrote:

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When I speak of non-readable, I mean it looks like "hieroglyphics".

Try mtxrun --script fonts --reload --force and then compiling again. Aditya

Fabrice Couvreur

9:41 p.m.

Hi, @Aditya This does not solve my problem @Pablo fab@debian:~$ pdffonts layout15.pdf name type encoding emb sub uni object ID ------------------------------------ ----------------- ---------------- --- --- --- --------- AHYUQI+GaramondNo8-Regular CID Type 0C Identity-H yes yes yes 10 0 2017-08-18 20:17 GMT+02:00 Aditya Mahajan :

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On Thu, 17 Aug 2017, Fabrice Couvreur wrote:

When I speak of non-readable, I mean it looks like "hieroglyphics".

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Try

mtxrun --script fonts --reload --force

and then compiling again.

Aditya

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Fabrice Couvreur

25 Aug 25 Aug

12:31 a.m.

Hello, I reinstalled the fonts in : fab@debian:~$ ls -l /home/fab/texmf/fonts/opentype/ total 16 drwxr-xr-x 2 fab fab 4096 août 25 02:14 ebgaramond drwxr-xr-x 5 fab fab 4096 avril 11 2016 fourier-GUT drwxrwxr-x 9 fab fab 4096 avril 4 2011 kpfonts drwxr-xr-x 3 fab fab 4096 août 12 23:50 STIXv2.0.0 fab@debian:~$ I compiled the following file : \loadtypescriptfile[mathdesign] \setupbodyfont[garamond] \starttext \input knuth \stoptext which font it embedded : ab@debian:~$ pdffonts layout22.pdf name type encoding emb sub uni object ID ------------------------------------ ----------------- ---------------- --- --- --- --------- AHYUQI+GaramondNo8-Regular CID Type 0C Identity-H yes yes yes 10 0 It still does not work ! Fabrice 2017-08-18 23:41 GMT+02:00 Fabrice Couvreur :

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Hi, @Aditya

This does not solve my problem

@Pablo

fab@debian:~$ pdffonts layout15.pdf name type encoding emb sub uni object ID ------------------------------------ ----------------- ---------------- --- --- --- --------- AHYUQI+GaramondNo8-Regular CID Type 0C Identity-H yes yes yes 10 0

2017-08-18 20:17 GMT+02:00 Aditya Mahajan :

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On Thu, 17 Aug 2017, Fabrice Couvreur wrote:

When I speak of non-readable, I mean it looks like "hieroglyphics".

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Try

mtxrun --script fonts --reload --force

and then compiling again.

Aditya

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Aditya Mahajan

2:06 a.m.

On Fri, 25 Aug 2017, Fabrice Couvreur wrote:

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Hello, I reinstalled the fonts in :

fab@debian:~$ ls -l /home/fab/texmf/fonts/opentype/ total 16 drwxr-xr-x 2 fab fab 4096 août 25 02:14 ebgaramond drwxr-xr-x 5 fab fab 4096 avril 11 2016 fourier-GUT drwxrwxr-x 9 fab fab 4096 avril 4 2011 kpfonts drwxr-xr-x 3 fab fab 4096 août 12 23:50 STIXv2.0.0 fab@debian:~$

I compiled the following file :

\loadtypescriptfile[mathdesign] \setupbodyfont[garamond] \starttext \input knuth \stoptext

You have EBGaramond font, but you are using mathdesign typescript which is designed for URW Garamond. So you need to either install URW Garamond (in AFM format) or create a typescript for EBGaramond. For reference, this is the relevant part of type-imp-mathdesign.mkiv: % URW Garamond \starttypescript [\s!serif] [garamond] \definefontsynonym [Garamond-Regular] [\s!file:ugmr8a.afm] \definefontsynonym [Garamond-Italic] [\s!file:ugmri8a.afm] \definefontsynonym [Garamond-Bold] [\s!file:bchb8a.afm] \definefontsynonym [Garamond-BoldItalic] [\s!file:ugmmi8a.afm] \stoptypescript \starttypescript [\s!serif] [garamond] [\s!name] \setups[\s!font:\s!fallback:\s!serif] \definefontsynonym [\s!Serif] [Garamond-Regular] \definefontsynonym [\s!SerifItalic] [Garamond-Italic] \definefontsynonym [\s!SerifBold] [Garamond-Bold] \definefontsynonym [\s!SerifBoldItalic] [Garamond-BoldItalic] \stoptypescript \starttypescript [\s!math] [mdugm,mathdesigngm,garamond] [\s!all] \loadfontgoodies[mdugm-math] \definefontsynonym [\s!MathRoman] [mdugmrm@mdugm-rm] \definefontsynonym [\s!MathRomanBold] [mdugmbf@mdugm-bf] \stoptypescript \starttypescript [mathdesigngm,garamond] \definetypeface [\typescriptone] [\s!rm] [\s!serif] [garamond] [\s!default] \definetypeface [\typescriptone] [\s!ss] [\s!sans] [modern] [\s!default] \definetypeface [\typescriptone] [\s!tt] [\s!mono] [modern] [\s!default] \definetypeface [\typescriptone] [\s!mm] [\s!math] [garamond] [\s!default] \quittypescriptscanning \stoptypescript Aditya

Fabrice Couvreur

10:03 a.m.

Hi Aditya, The first time I have downloaded since http://wiki.contextgarden.net/URW_Garamond with the result you know. Then I did a search on Google and I downloaded another package for the same result. Where to find the fonts ? Fabrice 2017-08-25 4:06 GMT+02:00 Aditya Mahajan :

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On Fri, 25 Aug 2017, Fabrice Couvreur wrote:

Hello,

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I reinstalled the fonts in :

fab@debian:~$ ls -l /home/fab/texmf/fonts/opentype/ total 16 drwxr-xr-x 2 fab fab 4096 août 25 02:14 ebgaramond drwxr-xr-x 5 fab fab 4096 avril 11 2016 fourier-GUT drwxrwxr-x 9 fab fab 4096 avril 4 2011 kpfonts drwxr-xr-x 3 fab fab 4096 août 12 23:50 STIXv2.0.0 fab@debian:~$

I compiled the following file :

\loadtypescriptfile[mathdesign] \setupbodyfont[garamond] \starttext \input knuth \stoptext

You have EBGaramond font, but you are using mathdesign typescript which is designed for URW Garamond. So you need to either install URW Garamond (in AFM format) or create a typescript for EBGaramond.

For reference, this is the relevant part of type-imp-mathdesign.mkiv:

% URW Garamond

\starttypescript [\s!serif] [garamond] \definefontsynonym [Garamond-Regular] [\s!file:ugmr8a.afm] \definefontsynonym [Garamond-Italic] [\s!file:ugmri8a.afm] \definefontsynonym [Garamond-Bold] [\s!file:bchb8a.afm] \definefontsynonym [Garamond-BoldItalic] [\s!file:ugmmi8a.afm] \stoptypescript

\starttypescript [\s!serif] [garamond] [\s!name] \setups[\s!font:\s!fallback:\s!serif] \definefontsynonym [\s!Serif] [Garamond-Regular] \definefontsynonym [\s!SerifItalic] [Garamond-Italic] \definefontsynonym [\s!SerifBold] [Garamond-Bold] \definefontsynonym [\s!SerifBoldItalic] [Garamond-BoldItalic] \stoptypescript

\starttypescript [\s!math] [mdugm,mathdesigngm,garamond] [\s!all] \loadfontgoodies[mdugm-math] \definefontsynonym [\s!MathRoman] [mdugmrm@mdugm-rm] \definefontsynonym [\s!MathRomanBold] [mdugmbf@mdugm-bf] \stoptypescript

\starttypescript [mathdesigngm,garamond] \definetypeface [\typescriptone] [\s!rm] [\s!serif] [garamond] [\s!default] \definetypeface [\typescriptone] [\s!ss] [\s!sans] [modern] [\s!default] \definetypeface [\typescriptone] [\s!tt] [\s!mono] [modern] [\s!default] \definetypeface [\typescriptone] [\s!mm] [\s!math] [garamond] [\s!default] \quittypescriptscanning \stoptypescript

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Fabrice Couvreur

27 Aug 27 Aug

11:10 a.m.

Hi, Here's what I get, is this correct ? Thank you Fabrice fab@debian:~$ pdffonts layout25.pdf name type encoding emb sub uni object ID ------------------------------------ ----------------- ---------------- --- --- --- --------- JJIWHN+GaramondNo8-Regular CID Type 0C Identity-H yes yes yes 10 0 fab@debian:~$ 2017-08-25 12:03 GMT+02:00 Fabrice Couvreur :

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Hi Aditya, The first time I have downloaded since http://wiki. contextgarden.net/URW_Garamond with the result you know. Then I did a search on Google and I downloaded another package for the same result. Where to find the fonts ? Fabrice

2017-08-25 4:06 GMT+02:00 Aditya Mahajan :

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On Fri, 25 Aug 2017, Fabrice Couvreur wrote:

Hello,

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I reinstalled the fonts in :

fab@debian:~$ ls -l /home/fab/texmf/fonts/opentype/ total 16 drwxr-xr-x 2 fab fab 4096 août 25 02:14 ebgaramond drwxr-xr-x 5 fab fab 4096 avril 11 2016 fourier-GUT drwxrwxr-x 9 fab fab 4096 avril 4 2011 kpfonts drwxr-xr-x 3 fab fab 4096 août 12 23:50 STIXv2.0.0 fab@debian:~$

I compiled the following file :

\loadtypescriptfile[mathdesign] \setupbodyfont[garamond] \starttext \input knuth \stoptext

You have EBGaramond font, but you are using mathdesign typescript which is designed for URW Garamond. So you need to either install URW Garamond (in AFM format) or create a typescript for EBGaramond.

For reference, this is the relevant part of type-imp-mathdesign.mkiv:

% URW Garamond

\starttypescript [\s!serif] [garamond] \definefontsynonym [Garamond-Regular] [\s!file:ugmr8a.afm] \definefontsynonym [Garamond-Italic] [\s!file:ugmri8a.afm] \definefontsynonym [Garamond-Bold] [\s!file:bchb8a.afm] \definefontsynonym [Garamond-BoldItalic] [\s!file:ugmmi8a.afm] \stoptypescript

\starttypescript [\s!serif] [garamond] [\s!name] \setups[\s!font:\s!fallback:\s!serif] \definefontsynonym [\s!Serif] [Garamond-Regular] \definefontsynonym [\s!SerifItalic] [Garamond-Italic] \definefontsynonym [\s!SerifBold] [Garamond-Bold] \definefontsynonym [\s!SerifBoldItalic] [Garamond-BoldItalic] \stoptypescript

\starttypescript [\s!math] [mdugm,mathdesigngm,garamond] [\s!all] \loadfontgoodies[mdugm-math] \definefontsynonym [\s!MathRoman] [mdugmrm@mdugm-rm] \definefontsynonym [\s!MathRomanBold] [mdugmbf@mdugm-bf] \stoptypescript

\starttypescript [mathdesigngm,garamond] \definetypeface [\typescriptone] [\s!rm] [\s!serif] [garamond] [\s!default] \definetypeface [\typescriptone] [\s!ss] [\s!sans] [modern] [\s!default] \definetypeface [\typescriptone] [\s!tt] [\s!mono] [modern] [\s!default] \definetypeface [\typescriptone] [\s!mm] [\s!math] [garamond] [\s!default] \quittypescriptscanning \stoptypescript

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Fabrice Couvreur

11:14 a.m.

Is this an impression but, of equal size, it seems smaller than other fonts. 2017-08-27 13:10 GMT+02:00 Fabrice Couvreur :

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Hi, Here's what I get, is this correct ? Thank you Fabrice

fab@debian:~$ pdffonts layout25.pdf name type encoding emb sub uni object ID ------------------------------------ ----------------- ---------------- --- --- --- --------- JJIWHN+GaramondNo8-Regular CID Type 0C Identity-H yes yes yes 10 0 fab@debian:~$

2017-08-25 12:03 GMT+02:00 Fabrice Couvreur :

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Hi Aditya, The first time I have downloaded since http://wiki.contextgarde n.net/URW_Garamond with the result you know. Then I did a search on Google and I downloaded another package for the same result. Where to find the fonts ? Fabrice

2017-08-25 4:06 GMT+02:00 Aditya Mahajan :

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On Fri, 25 Aug 2017, Fabrice Couvreur wrote:

Hello,

...
I reinstalled the fonts in :

fab@debian:~$ ls -l /home/fab/texmf/fonts/opentype/ total 16 drwxr-xr-x 2 fab fab 4096 août 25 02:14 ebgaramond drwxr-xr-x 5 fab fab 4096 avril 11 2016 fourier-GUT drwxrwxr-x 9 fab fab 4096 avril 4 2011 kpfonts drwxr-xr-x 3 fab fab 4096 août 12 23:50 STIXv2.0.0 fab@debian:~$

I compiled the following file :

\loadtypescriptfile[mathdesign] \setupbodyfont[garamond] \starttext \input knuth \stoptext

You have EBGaramond font, but you are using mathdesign typescript which is designed for URW Garamond. So you need to either install URW Garamond (in AFM format) or create a typescript for EBGaramond.

For reference, this is the relevant part of type-imp-mathdesign.mkiv:

% URW Garamond

\starttypescript [\s!serif] [garamond] \definefontsynonym [Garamond-Regular] [\s!file:ugmr8a.afm] \definefontsynonym [Garamond-Italic] [\s!file:ugmri8a.afm] \definefontsynonym [Garamond-Bold] [\s!file:bchb8a.afm] \definefontsynonym [Garamond-BoldItalic] [\s!file:ugmmi8a.afm] \stoptypescript

\starttypescript [\s!serif] [garamond] [\s!name] \setups[\s!font:\s!fallback:\s!serif] \definefontsynonym [\s!Serif] [Garamond-Regular] \definefontsynonym [\s!SerifItalic] [Garamond-Italic] \definefontsynonym [\s!SerifBold] [Garamond-Bold] \definefontsynonym [\s!SerifBoldItalic] [Garamond-BoldItalic] \stoptypescript

\starttypescript [\s!math] [mdugm,mathdesigngm,garamond] [\s!all] \loadfontgoodies[mdugm-math] \definefontsynonym [\s!MathRoman] [mdugmrm@mdugm-rm] \definefontsynonym [\s!MathRomanBold] [mdugmbf@mdugm-bf] \stoptypescript

\starttypescript [mathdesigngm,garamond] \definetypeface [\typescriptone] [\s!rm] [\s!serif] [garamond] [\s!default] \definetypeface [\typescriptone] [\s!ss] [\s!sans] [modern] [\s!default] \definetypeface [\typescriptone] [\s!tt] [\s!mono] [modern] [\s!default] \definetypeface [\typescriptone] [\s!mm] [\s!math] [garamond] [\s!default] \quittypescriptscanning \stoptypescript

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