Am 06.08.23 um 20:37 schrieb Pablo Rodriguez:

Hans provides this jewel in back-imp-pdf.mkxl and back-pdf.mkiv (adapter for your needs):

\starttext text \pdfbackendactualtext{whatever you want}{filia} text \stoptext

In any case, the PDF viewer used to search must have ActualText implemented.

Exactly. And e.g. Apple’s PDF library has not; it is used not only by Preview.app, but also by Skim and TeXshop. (I should check this with other viewers/libs.) Hraban

Am Mon, 7 Aug 2023 09:17:19 -0300 schrieb Marcus Vinicius Mesquita:

Thank you for the answers, Bruce, Pablo and Hraban. I was not aware of ActualText.

But \pdfbackendactualtext is actually just what I needed since it can be used also for other things like:

I don't think that it would be a good idea to use ActualText for this. You are effectivly changing the content and meaning of your text, not only for search, but also for copy&paste, screen reader, html export etc. If you think it is okay to claim that the text is filia and then the accents are irrelevant, then why don't you print filia directly? -- Ulrike Fischer http://www.troubleshooting-tex.de/

@ Ulrike: This is what my client wants, and the client is always right. Regards Marcus Vinicius On Mon, Aug 7, 2023 at 2:23 PM Henning Hraban Ramm wrote:

Am 07.08.23 um 14:17 schrieb Marcus Vinicius Mesquita:

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Thank you for the answers, Bruce, Pablo and Hraban. I was not aware of ActualText.

I work on a manjaro linux, and I tested the example Pablo sent on several programs:

mupdf-gl or mupdf: fails! [mupdf-gl is what I customarily use for its blazing speed] firefox: fails vivaldi: passes okular: passes qpdfview: passes evince: passes

Thank you for researching! I’ll include this in my viewer matrix. (But probably not before the ConTeXt meeting.)

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But \pdfbackendactualtext is actually just what I needed since it can be used also for other things like:

\starttext what a \pdfbackendactualtext{\hyphenatedword{wonderful}}{wonderful} text \stoptext

I’m not sure but I’d guess ActualText is also suitable for alternative texts (AltText) of images? Wouldn’t it make sense to have an alttext key in \externalfigure for accessibility (PDF/UA)?

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This is perfect, as it works also with mupdf-gl and firefox! Thank you, Hans Kind regards Marcus Vinicius On Mon, Aug 7, 2023 at 4:58 PM Hans Hagen wrote:

On 8/7/2023 8:58 PM, Marcus Vinicius Mesquita wrote:

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@ Ulrike: This is what my client wants, and the client is always right. You can try this:

\starttext

\protected\def\ProofOfConcept#1#2% {{#1\llap{\effect[hidden]{#2}}}}

test test \ProofOfConcept{föö}{foo} test

\stoptext

but forget about hyphenation (actualtext probably also doesn't always work well across lines in viewers).

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