On 2016-02-10 12:48:32 +0000, Hans Hagen said:

On 2/10/2016 12:36 PM, Nicola wrote:

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(1) I conclude that .dfont fonts are not dealt properly by ConTeXt, or that I am missing some configuration step.

indeed the latest mkiv does not support dfonts any longer

Ok, good to know. Any suggestion on how to select a font within a .ttc? Btw, I read in the wiki(*) that “the current version of LuaTeX (0.60) has severe problems dealing with the new TrueType collection fonts in Snow Leopard (Mac OS 10.6).” Is that still the case with the current LuaTeX (I am on El Capitan)? That might explain my results. What is the best practice: do you recommended using only ttf and otf fonts? Nicola (*) http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Fonts_in_LuaTeX#Querying_the_font_database

On 2016-02-10 14:13:37 +0000, Hans Hagen said:

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Ok, good to know. Any suggestion on how to select a font within a .ttc?

normally by name

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Btw, I read in the wiki(*) that “the current version of LuaTeX (0.60) has severe problems dealing with the new TrueType collection fonts in Snow Leopard (Mac OS 10.6).”

0.60 is ancient ... we have approx 0.90 now

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Is that still the case with the current LuaTeX (I am on El Capitan)? That might explain my results.

i don't use osx but others can tell you

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What is the best practice: do you recommended using only ttf and otf fonts?

ttc is okay

So, if someone using OS X could tell me how to, say, use Avenir Light or Avenir Next Ultra Light (both are .ttc), that would be much appreciated :) Nicola

Hi,

On 10 Feb 2016, at 16:19, Pablo Rodriguez wrote:

On 02/10/2016 03:45 PM, Nicola wrote:

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On 2016-02-10 14:13:37 +0000, Hans Hagen said:

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Ok, good to know. Any suggestion on how to select a font within a .ttc?

normally by name

It seems the ttc extractor fails in the current beta, at least on osx. After a —reload of the fonts, I get similar results to Nicola: only one indexed font is found for each of the .ttc files (always the last index). So, for example, I have only these four entries for Avenir Next Condensed: avenirnextcondensed avenirnextcondensedultralightitalic /System/Library/Fonts/Avenir Next Condensed.ttc index: 12 avenirnextcondenseditalic avenirnextcondensedultralightitalic /System/Library/Fonts/Avenir Next Condensed.ttc index: 12 avenirnextcondensedlight avenirnextcondensedultralightitalic /System/Library/Fonts/Avenir Next Condensed.ttc index: 12 avenirnextcondensedultralightitalic avenirnextcondensedultralightitalic /System/Library/Fonts/Avenir Next Condensed.ttc index: 12 The last of those lines is the most specific one, the earlier ones are probably heuristically derived, and the font works indeed ok. But the fonts at index 1–11 of the ttc are missing completely! That same issue happens for all the ttcs files on my system, with the latest standalone beta. Best wishes, Taco

On 2/10/2016 6:06 PM, Nicola wrote:

On 2016-02-10 15:49:37 +0000, Taco Hoekwater said:

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It seems the ttc extractor fails in the current beta, at least on osx.

After a —reload of the fonts, I get similar results to Nicola: only one indexed font is found for each of the .ttc files (always the last index).

I have exactly the same for the beta. Let me add that things do not look right with ConTeXt from TeX Live either. Try this:

1) remove the cache from ~/Library/texlive/2015/texmf-var 2) luatools --generate 3) mtxrun --script fonts --list --all --pattern=avenirnextcondensed* 4) Typeset my test document using Avenir Next Condensed. 5) mtxrun --script fonts --reload 6) mtxrun --script fonts --list --all --pattern=avenirnextcondensed* 7) Typeset again.

My results:

3) I see all the entries, plus some spurious ones, which are probably synthesized by the script (e.g., avenirnextcondensedblack). 4) The PDF is an empty document (`unknown font` in the console). 6) I see only avenirnextcondensed and avenirnextcondensedbold: the rest is gone. 7) The document is typeset in boldface (at least the font is found).

can you delete the fonts path in the texmf-cache Hans ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl -----------------------------------------------------------------

On 2/10/2016 5:44 PM, Nicola wrote:

On 2016-02-10 15:19:01 +0000, Pablo Rodriguez said:

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I’m not OS user, but the following works with Junction (https://www.theleagueofmoveabletype.com/junction):

\definefontfamily[mainface][ss][Junction][tf=style:light]

Thanks, that indeed does the trick (modulo Taco's comment in another post).

mtxrun --script font --reload --force ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl -----------------------------------------------------------------

On 2016-02-11 08:36:12 +0000, Taco Hoekwater said:

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On 10 Feb 2016, at 21:04, Hans Hagen wrote:

On 2/10/2016 5:44 PM, Nicola wrote:

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On 2016-02-10 15:19:01 +0000, Pablo Rodriguez said:

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I’m not OS user, but the following works with Junction (https://www.theleagueofmoveabletype.com/junction):

\definefontfamily[mainface][ss][Junction][tf=style:light]

Thanks, that indeed does the trick (modulo Taco's comment in another post).

mtxrun --script font --reload —force

That fixed the issue for me.

Not for me. After that command, I do see all the entries again, but when I typeset my document the font is not found. I paste the log below. Hans has suggested:

can you delete the fonts path in the texmf-cache

Do you mean texmf-var/fonts? Here is what I done, step by step: 0) `sudo mv /usr/local/texlive/2015/texmf-var/fonts ~/.Trash`. 1) delete all the cache files in /usr/local/texlive/2015/texmf-var/luatex-cache and in ~/Library/texlive/texmf-var/luatex-cache; 2) At this point, running context or 'luatools --generate' results in: resolvers | trees | analyzing '/Users/nicola/Library/texmf' mtxrun | unknown script 'context.lua' or 'mtx-context.lua' 3) Run `mtxrun --generate` (without sudo). This creates ~/Library/texlive/texmf-var/luatex-cache/context; 4) run `mtxrun --script fonts --list --all --pattern=avenirnextcondensed*`: this runs for a while and at the end I get: fonts | names | accessing the data table failed avenirnextcondensed avenirnextcondensedultralightitalic /System/Library/Fonts/Avenir Next Condensed.ttc index: 0 avenirnextcondensedblack avenirnextcondensedheavyitalic /System/Library/Fonts/Avenir Next Condensed.ttc index: 2 avenirnextcondensedbold avenirnextcondensedbold /System/Library/Fonts/Avenir Next Condensed.ttc index: 11 avenirnextcondensedbolditalic avenirnextcondensedbolditalic /System/Library/Fonts/Avenir Next Condensed.ttc index: 10 avenirnextcondenseddemi avenirnextcondenseddemibolditalic /System/Library/Fonts/Avenir Next Condensed.ttc index: 8 avenirnextcondenseddemibold avenirnextcondenseddemibold /System/Library/Fonts/Avenir Next Condensed.ttc index: 9 avenirnextcondenseddemibolditalic avenirnextcondenseddemibolditalic /System/Library/Fonts/Avenir Next Condensed.ttc index: 8 avenirnextcondensedheavy avenirnextcondensedheavy /System/Library/Fonts/Avenir Next Condensed.ttc index: 3 avenirnextcondensedheavyitalic avenirnextcondensedheavyitalic /System/Library/Fonts/Avenir Next Condensed.ttc index: 2 avenirnextcondenseditalic avenirnextcondenseditalic /System/Library/Fonts/Avenir Next Condensed.ttc index: 7 avenirnextcondensedlight avenirnextcondensedultralightitalic /System/Library/Fonts/Avenir Next Condensed.ttc index: 0 avenirnextcondensedmedium avenirnextcondensedmedium /System/Library/Fonts/Avenir Next Condensed.ttc index: 6 avenirnextcondensedmediumitalic avenirnextcondensedmediumitalic /System/Library/Fonts/Avenir Next Condensed.ttc index: 5 avenirnextcondensednormal avenirnextcondensedregular /System/Library/Fonts/Avenir Next Condensed.ttc index: 4 avenirnextcondensedregular avenirnextcondensedregular /System/Library/Fonts/Avenir Next Condensed.ttc index: 4 avenirnextcondensedultralight avenirnextcondensedultralight /System/Library/Fonts/Avenir Next Condensed.ttc index: 1 avenirnextcondensedultralightitalic avenirnextcondensedultralightitalic /System/Library/Fonts/Avenir Next Condensed.ttc index: 0 I don't know whether the first line of this output indicates a problem. 5) Typeset the document. This takes ~10s and the result is an empty document (font not found). 6) Run `mtxrun --script fonts --list --all --pattern=avenirnextcondensed*`: resolvers | trees | analyzing '/Users/nicola/Library/texmf' avenirnextcondensed avenirnextcondensedbold /System/Library/Fonts/Avenir Next Condensed.ttc index: 11 avenirnextcondensedbold avenirnextcondensedbold /System/Library/Fonts/Avenir Next Condensed.ttc index: 11 7) Typeset again. Result: font found, document typeset in boldface. 8) Run `mtxrun --script font --reload --force`. After that, mtxrun shows me the same output as in step 4. Typesetting the document several times always results in `unknown font`. Document and log below. Nicola \definefontfamily [myfamily] [serif] [Avenir Next Condensed] \setupbodyfont[myfamily] \starttext \tf Regular, \it Italic \bf Bold and \bi BoldItalic \stoptext resolvers | trees | analyzing '/Users/nicola/Library/texmf' mtx-context | run 1: luatex --fmt="/Users/nicola/Library/texlive/2015/texmf-var/luatex-cache/context/a86c089b384a3076dc514ba966a1fac9/formats/luatex/cont-en" --jobname="helv" --lua="/Users/nicola/Library/texlive/2015/texmf-var/luatex-cache/context/a86c089b384a3076dc514ba966a1fac9/formats/luatex/cont-en.lui" --no-parse-first-line --c:currentrun=1 --c:fulljobname="./helv.tex" --c:input="./helv.tex" --c:kindofrun=1 --c:maxnofruns=9 "cont-yes.mkiv" This is LuaTeX, Version beta-0.80.0 (TeX Live 2015) (rev 5238) \write18 enabled. resolvers > trees > analyzing '/Users/nicola/Library/texmf' open source > 1 > 1 > /usr/local/texlive/2015/texmf-dist/tex/context/base/cont-yes.mkiv ConTeXt ver: 2015.05.18 12:26 MKIV current fmt: 2016.2.11 int: english/english system > 'cont-new.mkiv' loaded open source > 2 > 2 > /usr/local/texlive/2015/texmf-dist/tex/context/base/cont-new.mkiv close source > 2 > 2 > /usr/local/texlive/2015/texmf-dist/tex/context/base/cont-new.mkiv system > files > jobname 'helv', input './helv', result 'helv' fonts > latin modern fonts are not preloaded languages > language 'en' is active open source > 2 > 3 > /Users/nicola/Documents/Outbox/context-test/helv.tex fonts > preloading modern-designsize (math) fonts > typescripts > unknown library 'modern-designsize' fonts > 'fallback modern-designsize mm 12pt' is loaded fonts > preloading modern-designsize (mono) fonts > 'fallback modern-designsize tt 12pt' is loaded fonts > defining > font with asked name 'unknown' is not found using lookup 'file' fonts > defining > unknown font 'unknown', loading aborted fonts > defining > unable to define 'unknown' as 'myfamily-12pt-rm-tf-0--0' fonts > defining > font with asked name 'unknown' is not found using lookup 'file' fonts > defining > unknown font 'unknown', loading aborted fonts > defining > unable to define 'unknown' as 'myfamily-12pt-mm-mr--3' fonts > defining > font with asked name 'unknown' is not found using lookup 'file' fonts > defining > unknown font 'unknown', loading aborted fonts > defining > unable to define 'unknown' as 'myfamily-12pt-mm-mr--2' fonts > defining > font with asked name 'unknown' is not found using lookup 'file' fonts > defining > unknown font 'unknown', loading aborted fonts > defining > unable to define 'unknown' as 'myfamily-12pt-mm-mr--1' fonts > defining > font with asked name 'unknown' is not found using lookup 'file' fonts > defining > unknown font 'unknown', loading aborted fonts > defining > unable to define 'unknown' as 'myfamily-12pt-mm-mb--3' fonts > defining > font with asked name 'unknown' is not found using lookup 'file' fonts > defining > unknown font 'unknown', loading aborted fonts > defining > unable to define 'unknown' as 'myfamily-12pt-mm-mb--2' fonts > defining > font with asked name 'unknown' is not found using lookup 'file' fonts > defining > unknown font 'unknown', loading aborted fonts > defining > unable to define 'unknown' as 'myfamily-12pt-mm-mb--1' fonts > math: unset for global bodyfont myfamily at 12pt fonts > math: unset for global bodyfont myfamily at 12pt fonts > defining > font with asked name 'unknown' is not found using lookup 'file' fonts > defining > unknown font 'unknown', loading aborted fonts > defining > unable to define 'unknown' as 'myfamily-12pt-rm-it-0--0' fonts > defining > font with asked name 'unknown' is not found using lookup 'file' fonts > defining > unknown font 'unknown', loading aborted fonts > defining > unable to define 'unknown' as 'myfamily-12pt-rm-bf-0--0' fonts > defining > font with asked name 'unknown' is not found using lookup 'file' fonts > defining > unknown font 'unknown', loading aborted fonts > defining > unable to define 'unknown' as 'myfamily-12pt-rm-bi-0--0' fonts > math: unset for global bodyfont myfamily at 12pt fonts > math: unset for global bodyfont myfamily at 12pt backend > xmp > using file '/usr/local/texlive/2015/texmf-dist/tex/context/base/lpdf-pdx.xml' pages > flushing realpage 1, userpage 1 fonts > !! No bodyfont has been defined and no defaults have been fonts > !! loaded (maybe due to a missing \starttext). close source > 2 > 3 > /Users/nicola/Documents/Outbox/context-test/helv.tex close source > 1 > 3 > /usr/local/texlive/2015/texmf-dist/tex/context/base/cont-yes.mkiv mkiv lua stats > used config file: selfautoparent:/texmfcnf.lua;selfautoparent:/texmf-dist/web2c/texmfcnf.lua mkiv lua stats > used cache path: readable+writable: '/Users/nicola/Library/texlive/2015/texmf-var/luatex-cache/context/a86c089b384a3076dc514ba966a1fac9' mkiv lua stats > resource resolver: loadtime 0.134 seconds, 1 scans with scantime 0.002 seconds, 0 shared scans, 6 found files, scanned paths: /Users/nicola/Library/texmf mkiv lua stats > stored bytecode data: 371 modules (0.337 sec), 78 tables (0.007 sec), 449 chunks (0.344 sec) mkiv lua stats > traced context: maxstack: 1132, freed: 0, unreachable: 1132 mkiv lua stats > running in nuts mode: yes mkiv lua stats > cleaned up reserved nodes: 44 nodes, 439 lists of 438 mkiv lua stats > node memory usage: 2 glue, 2 penalty, 9 attribute, 32 glue_spec, 3 attribute_list, 2 temp mkiv lua stats > node list callback tasks: 6 unique task lists, 5 instances (re)created, 39 calls mkiv lua stats > used backend: pdf (backend for directly generating pdf output) mkiv lua stats > loaded patterns: en::2, load time: 0.000 mkiv lua stats > jobdata time: 0.001 seconds saving, 0.000 seconds loading mkiv lua stats > callbacks: 145 direct, 243 indirect, 388 total mkiv lua stats > randomizer: resumed with value 0.028076992848924 mkiv lua stats > result saved in file: helv.pdf, compresslevel 3, objectcompresslevel 3 mkiv lua stats > used platform: osx-64, type: unix, binary subtree: bin mkiv lua stats > luatex banner: this is luatex, version beta-0.80.0 (tex live 2015) (rev 5238) mkiv lua stats > control sequences: 42493 of 65536 + 100000 mkiv lua stats > lua properties: engine: lua, used memory: 73 MB (ctx: 73 MB), hash type: lua, hash chars: min(64,40), symbol mask: utf (τεχ) mkiv lua stats > runtime: 0.452 seconds, 1 processed pages, 1 shipped pages, 2.212 pages/second system | total runtime: 0.678 seconds

On 11 Feb 2016, at 10:31, Nicola wrote:

On 2016-02-11 08:36:12 +0000, Taco Hoekwater said:

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On 10 Feb 2016, at 21:04, Hans Hagen wrote: On 2/10/2016 5:44 PM, Nicola wrote:

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On 2016-02-10 15:19:01 +0000, Pablo Rodriguez said:

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I’m not OS user, but the following works with Junction (https://www.theleagueofmoveabletype.com/junction): \definefontfamily[mainface][ss][Junction][tf=style:light] Thanks, that indeed does the trick (modulo Taco's comment in another post). mtxrun --script font --reload —force That fixed the issue for me.

Not for me. After that command, I do see all the entries again, but when I typeset my document the font is not found. I paste the log below.

It looks like \definefontfamily depends on actual separate font files. This worked for me: \definefontfamily [myfamily] [serif] [Avenir Next Condensed] [tf=name:Avenir Next Condensed Regular, bf=name:Avenir Next Condensed Bold, bi=name:Avenir Next Condensed Bold Italic, it=name:Avenir Next Condensed Italic] Best wishes, Taco

Nicola mailto:nvitacolonna@gmail.com 11. Februar 2016 um 10:31 On 2016-02-11 08:36:12 +0000, Taco Hoekwater said:

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8) Run `mtxrun --script font --reload --force`. After that, mtxrun shows me the same output as in step 4. Typesetting the document several times always results in `unknown font`. Document and log below.

Nicola

\definefontfamily [myfamily] [serif] [Avenir Next Condensed] \setupbodyfont[myfamily] \starttext \tf Regular, \it Italic \bf Bold and \bi BoldItalic \stoptext The \definefontfamily uses currently a fixed value for the font width but I won’t have time for this before the weekend because I have to check a few (hundred!) fonts for the best solution.

Besides the \definefontfamily you can also write the required typescripts yourself, below is a example for the normal Avenir Next fonts. %%%% begin example \starttypescript[sans][avenir] \setups[font:fallback:sans] \definefontsynonym [Sans] [Avenir Next(AvenirNext-Regular)] \definefontsynonym [SansItalic] [Avenir Next(AvenirNext-Italic)] \definefontsynonym [SansBold] [Avenir Next(AvenirNext-Bold)] \definefontsynonym [SansBoldItalic] [Avenir Next(AvenirNext-BoldItalic)] \stoptypescript \starttypescript[sans][avenir-light] \setups[font:fallback:sans] \definefontsynonym [Sans] [Avenir Next(AvenirNext-UltraLight)] \definefontsynonym [SansItalic] [Avenir Next(AvenirNext-UltraLightItalic)] \definefontsynonym [SansBold] [Avenir Next(AvenirNext-Medium)] \definefontsynonym [SansBoldItalic] [Avenir Next(AvenirNext-MediumItalic)] \stoptypescript \definetypeface [avenir] [ss] [sans] [avenir] [default] [features=default] \definetypeface [avenir] [mm] [math] [modern] [default] \definetypeface [avenir-light] [ss] [sans] [avenir-light] [default] [features=default] \definetypeface [avenir-light] [mm] [math] [modern] [default] \setupbodyfont[avenir] \starttext \input knuth {\bf \input knuth } \switchtobodyfont[avenir-light] \input knuth {\bf \input knuth } \stoptext %%%% end example BTW: ConTeXts already provides typescripts for many OS X fonts but they are a little bit dated. Wolfgang

Nicola mailto:nvitacolonna@gmail.com 11. Februar 2016 um 11:49 On 2016-02-11 10:32:14 +0000, Wolfgang Schuster said:

Thanks! The typescript works for me, at least with the beta. This is no surprise because typescripts are contexts native way to load fonts and even the \definefontfamily command creates a typescript for your fonts.

Wolfgang