Hi Taco, I ran into the following problems: 1. see attached files. Three bib entries with different authors, but the resulting references are the same for two of them (!). Appearantly, without sorting the bib entries, the extra label numbering does not work correctly. Changing \setupbibtex to "sort=short" fixes the issue (appending "a" and "b") as well does changing "ITERATE {presort.none}" to "ITERATE {presort.clabel}" in cont-no.bst. But is this a once-and-for-all fix? 2. see attached files. In \setuppublications, numbering is given as "short", but the resulting list of references is only as good as "yes" - I only get the numbers, not the short references in the list. Hmmm, what's the cause for this? Any ideas? Or is it My Fault(TM)? 3. In general: If I'd use bib handwriting \{start,stop}publication without bibltx, would I have to care about the uniqueness of the "short" document names (the "s=" option to \startpublication)? Really? Considering hundreds of possible bibliography entries, this would double the effort: Not only the key (the "k=" option) but also the short name must be unique for correct references. 4. Sometimes, the build process ("texexec --pdf test") breaks after changing some text in the bibliography. Appearantly, sometimes the .bbl file is not updated. removing the .bbl file fixes the build. No recipy available, sorry. Thanks, - Matthias \usemodule[bib] \usemodule[bibltx] \setupbibtex[database=mybibs,sort=no] \setuppublications[refcommand=short,numbering=short] \starttext For all times, \cite[TRUE] is right and \cite[FALSE] is wrong. \completepublications \stoptext @techreport{TRUE, Title = "True Values", Author = "True Author", Year = "2005", } @techreport{GNUS, Title = "Gnus in the Wild", Author = "Another Doctor", Year = "2005", } @techreport{FALSE, Title = "False values", Author = "False Author", Year = "2005", }
Hi Matthias, I goofed somewhere, that's for sure. Are you in a real hurry, or can I take a day or two staring at it? Taco Matthias Wächter wrote:
Hi Taco,
I ran into the following problems:
1. see attached files. Three bib entries with different authors, but the resulting references are the same for two of them (!). Appearantly, without sorting the bib entries, the extra label numbering does not work correctly. Changing \setupbibtex to "sort=short" fixes the issue (appending "a" and "b") as well does changing "ITERATE {presort.none}" to "ITERATE {presort.clabel}" in cont-no.bst. But is this a once-and-for-all fix?
2. see attached files. In \setuppublications, numbering is given as "short", but the resulting list of references is only as good as "yes" - I only get the numbers, not the short references in the list. Hmmm, what's the cause for this? Any ideas? Or is it My Fault(TM)?
3. In general: If I'd use bib handwriting \{start,stop}publication without bibltx, would I have to care about the uniqueness of the "short" document names (the "s=" option to \startpublication)? Really? Considering hundreds of possible bibliography entries, this would double the effort: Not only the key (the "k=" option) but also the short name must be unique for correct references.
4. Sometimes, the build process ("texexec --pdf test") breaks after changing some text in the bibliography. Appearantly, sometimes the .bbl file is not updated. removing the .bbl file fixes the build. No recipy available, sorry.
Thanks, - Matthias
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\usemodule[bib] \usemodule[bibltx] \setupbibtex[database=mybibs,sort=no] \setuppublications[refcommand=short,numbering=short] \starttext For all times, \cite[TRUE] is right and \cite[FALSE] is wrong. \completepublications \stoptext
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@techreport{TRUE, Title = "True Values", Author = "True Author", Year = "2005", }
@techreport{GNUS, Title = "Gnus in the Wild", Author = "Another Doctor", Year = "2005", }
@techreport{FALSE, Title = "False values", Author = "False Author", Year = "2005", }
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Hi Taco, any progress? - Matthias On 24.10.2006 15:13, Taco Hoekwater wrote:
Hi Matthias,
I goofed somewhere, that's for sure. Are you in a real hurry, or can I take a day or two staring at it?
Taco
Matthias Wächter wrote:
Hi Taco,
I ran into the following problems:
1. see attached files. Three bib entries with different authors, but the resulting references are the same for two of them (!). Appearantly, without sorting the bib entries, the extra label numbering does not work correctly. Changing \setupbibtex to "sort=short" fixes the issue (appending "a" and "b") as well does changing "ITERATE {presort.none}" to "ITERATE {presort.clabel}" in cont-no.bst. But is this a once-and-for-all fix?
2. see attached files. In \setuppublications, numbering is given as "short", but the resulting list of references is only as good as "yes" - I only get the numbers, not the short references in the list. Hmmm, what's the cause for this? Any ideas? Or is it My Fault(TM)?
3. In general: If I'd use bib handwriting \{start,stop}publication without bibltx, would I have to care about the uniqueness of the "short" document names (the "s=" option to \startpublication)? Really? Considering hundreds of possible bibliography entries, this would double the effort: Not only the key (the "k=" option) but also the short name must be unique for correct references.
4. Sometimes, the build process ("texexec --pdf test") breaks after changing some text in the bibliography. Appearantly, sometimes the .bbl file is not updated. removing the .bbl file fixes the build. No recipy available, sorry.
Thanks, - Matthias
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\usemodule[bib] \usemodule[bibltx] \setupbibtex[database=mybibs,sort=no] \setuppublications[refcommand=short,numbering=short] \starttext For all times, \cite[TRUE] is right and \cite[FALSE] is wrong. \completepublications \stoptext
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@techreport{TRUE, Title = "True Values", Author = "True Author", Year = "2005", }
@techreport{GNUS, Title = "Gnus in the Wild", Author = "Another Doctor", Year = "2005", }
@techreport{FALSE, Title = "False values", Author = "False Author", Year = "2005", }
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Hi, I just uploaded a new bib module to http://modules.contextgarden.net Fixes: * \setuppublications[numbering=short] * \setuppublications[numbering=bib] * grid snapping of the publication list * some spurious spaces Added: * \setupbibtex[bibtex=bibtex] For Matthias: I know this does not quite fix all the problems you had with short item keys when they are not generated by \setupbibtex[sort=short], but at least you can have a normal list of referenced items now. Cheers, Taco
Thanks Taco! Right now, I get a 404 error when I try to download. Server error? Best Thomas On Nov 4, 2006, at 5:50 PM, Taco Hoekwater wrote:
Hi,
I just uploaded a new bib module to http://modules.contextgarden.net
Fixes: * \setuppublications[numbering=short] * \setuppublications[numbering=bib] * grid snapping of the publication list * some spurious spaces
Added: * \setupbibtex[bibtex=bibtex]
For Matthias: I know this does not quite fix all the problems you had with short item keys when they are not generated by \setupbibtex[sort=short], but at least you can have a normal list of referenced items now.
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On 11/4/06, Taco Hoekwater
Thomas A. Schmitz wrote:
Thanks Taco! Right now, I get a 404 error when I try to download.
Sorry, re-uploaded (I gave the wrong revision id). Should be ok now.
I was able to download the new version, but it is failing on the simple
example document from the wiki (I called it try-ctx) -- does it need a
very recent context (I have "ConTeXt ver: 2006.08.08 21:51 fmt:
2006.11.4 int: english mes: english")?
$ texmfstart texexec try-ctx
[...]
Completed box being shipped out [1.1]
Memory usage before: 1751&690230; after: 397&690074; still untouched: 939301
title : - References
)
! Incomplete \iffalse; all text was ignored after line 23.
<inserted text>
\fi
<*> try-ctx.tex
emergencyend
?
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On Nov 4, 2006, at 8:28 PM, gnwiii@gmail.com wrote:
$ texmfstart texexec try-ctx [...] Completed box being shipped out [1.1] Memory usage before: 1751&690230; after: 397&690074; still untouched: 939301 title : - References ) ! Incomplete \iffalse; all text was ignored after line 23. <inserted text> \fi <*> try-ctx.tex emergencyend ?
I got the same error; I think a \fi is missing in line 935? Best Thomas
Thomas A. Schmitz wrote:
On Nov 4, 2006, at 8:28 PM, gnwiii@gmail.com wrote:
$ texmfstart texexec try-ctx [...] Completed box being shipped out [1.1] Memory usage before: 1751&690230; after: 397&690074; still untouched: 939301 title : - References ) ! Incomplete \iffalse; all text was ignored after line 23. <inserted text> \fi <*> try-ctx.tex emergencyend ?
I got the same error; I think a \fi is missing in line 935?
Absolutely correct, sorry again. Not my best day, this. New version uploaded Taco
On 11/4/06, Taco Hoekwater
Thomas A. Schmitz wrote:
On Nov 4, 2006, at 8:28 PM, gnwiii@gmail.com wrote:
$ texmfstart texexec try-ctx [...] Completed box being shipped out [1.1] Memory usage before: 1751&690230; after: 397&690074; still untouched: 939301 title : - References ) ! Incomplete \iffalse; all text was ignored after line 23. <inserted text> \fi <*> try-ctx.tex emergencyend ?
I got the same error; I think a \fi is missing in line 935?
Absolutely correct, sorry again. Not my best day, this.
New version uploaded
Now I get (running on linux):
$ texmfstart texexec try-ctx >texmfstart.log 2>&1
[gwhite@cerberus bibtex]$ grep bibtex texmfstart.log
publications : file try-ctx.bbl not found, waiting for bibtex
TeXUtil | running bibtex\ try-ctx
sh: bibtex try-ctx: command not found
publications : file try-ctx.bbl not found, waiting for bibtex
publications : file try-ctx.bbl not found, waiting for bibtex
[gwhite@cerberus bibtex]$ bibtex try-ctx
This is BibTeX, Version 0.99c (Web2C 7.5.5)
The top-level auxiliary file: try-ctx.aux
The style file: cont-no.bst
Database file #1: xampl.bib
It seems that linux looks for the program "bibtex try-ctx" due to the
escaped "space".
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On 11/5/06, Taco Hoekwater
gnwiii@gmail.com wrote:
It seems that linux looks for the program "bibtex try-ctx" due to the escaped "space".
Never give up, never surrender!
(new release uploaded)
Thanks. If you haven't had days like that you haven't done enough
programming yet.
I've already tested
\expanded{\installprogram{\@@pbbibtex\ \jobname}}}} -->
\expanded{\installprogram{\@@pbbibtex\space\jobname}}}}
and it "works for me" with the defaults and with
\setupbibtex[database=xampl,bibtex=bibtex8]
on linux, but it will be a couple weeks before I'm near Win32 long
enough for further tests.
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George N. White III
Taco Hoekwater wrote:
Thomas A. Schmitz wrote:
On Nov 4, 2006, at 8:28 PM, gnwiii@gmail.com wrote:
$ texmfstart texexec try-ctx [...] Completed box being shipped out [1.1] Memory usage before: 1751&690230; after: 397&690074; still untouched: 939301 title : - References ) ! Incomplete \iffalse; all text was ignored after line 23. <inserted text> \fi <*> try-ctx.tex emergencyend ?
I got the same error; I think a \fi is missing in line 935?
Absolutely correct, sorry again. Not my best day, this.
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